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Was Tox part of the Mafia? I don't believe it. Remember that the deciding vote was cast by the lawyer Vervolki, who was pretending to be a cautious, peaceful player (some may not like the comparison to previous games, but I've seen this kind of Mafia behavior from her before). If Tox had been Mafia (and not protected), she could have just as easily cast her vote for Zubr and not been exposed. If Tox had been Mafia, his vote could have been removed at the last moment. But no, he was simply eliminated.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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Just curious. Neyra doesn't want to execute anyone today. I don't understand why.
Let me explain: in psychological games, I don't vote against players just like that, especially on the first day. Therefore, on the first day, I always strive for a No Night Vote (NNV), especially if an execution won't provide concrete information about a role. Because, in my opinion, especially with such a small number of players, it's wrong to eliminate players left and right without being absolutely sure. If Mona were alive, she would confirm that I always play this way. And that I'm always suspected because of it >_<. Break the mold, damn it!

Also, I think you rushed with Tox! I don't know who of the pair, Revanka or Tox, was lying and who was telling the truth. But anyway, you could have given one of them the serum and then executed them.
And you're also unfairly targeting Zubr. If you read his posts and, for example, Lynx's, I believe him more.
And what Kitz writes, I don't like at all. Sometimes, it would be better if she didn't write anything at all. But if Dragnil isn't lying, she's either for the town or a maniac. But my intuition tells me her role, so she's currently last on the list of people I would execute.
Графомания путешественника
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Why is Tox a mafia member? Where did you get that idea from? Why was he trying to make deals with everyone yesterday, constantly running around? And why did he pretend to be a maniac in the end? To draw additional suspicion to himself? Well, and in the end, he got caught. And no one tried to defend him. What's the point?
I think Tox was a detective who was aggressive towards Mona on the first night and, during the day, set up Rimpel to be targeted by the mafia. Again, why did he pretend to be a maniac... Maybe because the roles are somewhat similar.
Kitz was checked, she is not a mafia member.
That was obvious anyway. I'm almost certain about her role.

In the game, it seems we have a doctor, a witness, a detective, two mafia members, and a maniac.


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If Tox had been part of the mafia, they might have withdrawn his vote at the last moment. But no, they just eliminated him.
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If he had been part of the mafia, then he and Werewolf would have easily eliminated me yesterday.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
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Lynx
Well, basically, we choose, right? Lynx or Bison?
Lynx
Yeah, and I don't think you'll get any solid information from them.
You're raising more and more suspicions in me...

If you think about it a little, you can confidently say that I definitely can't be the Mafia because:
if you look at Werewolf's votes, you can see that she didn't really care who to hang: either me or Tox. Because we weren't Mafia. First, her vote went to me (why would she do that if I was also Mafia? There were other, less obvious options; I wasn't hanging on the rope), then to Tox (if he was Mafia, they would have eliminated me together, and that would have been it). And Tox's vote was ultimately cast because he was revealing himself as a marksman, and it's more important for the Mafia to get rid of him. I, on the other hand, am not a marksman.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
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Zybr
You're arousing more and more suspicion in me...

If you think about it, you can confidently say that I definitely can't be the Mafia because:
if you look at Werewolf's votes, you can see that she basically didn't care who to hang: either me or Tox. Because we weren't Mafia. First, her vote fell on me (why would she do that if I was also Mafia? There were other, less obvious options; I wasn't hanging on the rope). Then, on Tox (if he was Mafia, they would have eliminated me together, and that would have been it). And in the end, a vote was cast against Tox because he was exposed by one or another Investigator, and it was more important for the Mafia to get rid of him. But I'm not an Investigator.
Seriously? Then explain the logic behind his actions, why would he expose himself as a Serial Killer? After that, he exposes himself completely (on the very first day, so that the Mafia could eliminate him at night, right? Clever). Why did the Advocate for Werewolf gain his trust after just three posts? Why should we believe you? The Town thought you were Mafia (100% sure). It's clear who has priority. The fact that I voted with Rimp partially clears me; I cast my vote when there were almost no votes yet. It's obvious that I'm less likely to be Mafia than you and Ney. Your attacks are so...
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Explain to me then the logic behind his actions, why would he reveal himself so blatantly?
No one but himself can explain the logic behind his actions. But I'm sure that if he were a Mafia member, he wouldn't have revealed himself so obviously. That's incredibly foolish.
After that, he reveals himself completely.
This can only be explained by the fact that Tox overdid it with his theories and accusations, panicked (he didn't want to die), and revealed himself completely.
The town thought you were a town member (100% town).
So what? In previous games, I also thought Neyra was a Mafia member when I was a town member myself. And she turned out to be a Serial Killer. This doesn't prove anything. It even narrows down the circle of real Mafia members.
The fact that I voted with Rimp partially clears me.
How does that clear you? A Mafia member can join any town member. Especially when that town member is attacking another town member. It's a good move! It's even easier to get someone eliminated in this case.
It's obvious that I have a lower chance of being a Mafia member than you do.
My chances of being a Mafia member are almost 0%. I already explained why. If I were a Mafia member, there wouldn't be 4 votes against me.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Zybr

How does that make you look any better? Mafia can join any townie. Especially when they're attacking another townie. It's a good thing!
It's even easier to lose in this case. I have almost a 0% chance of being mafia. I already explained why. If I were mafia, I wouldn't have 4 votes against me.
But that doesn't give you 0%.
Well, it makes me look better because first, I considered Ver suspicious, and I did so along with Kitz, don't you remember? At the same time, Tox was trying to protect her (I don't understand why).
In the end, I considered the mafia to be suspicious, I wanted to go after Tox, who was most likely mafia (or a very clueless townie), and I supported the town in the execution.
Okay, you say it's town, who do you think should be executed, and why?
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Zubr, if Tox was truly useless, then Dragnil is a valuable asset, right? And why would a valuable asset give you accurate information about the verification? Just to make you believe them next time?
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But this doesn't give 0%.
Well, it whitewashes things, firstly, because I considered Ver suspicious, and so did Kitz, don't you remember? While Tox, on the other hand, was trying to protect her (I don't understand why).
In the end, I considered the mafia member suspicious, I rushed towards Tox, who was most likely a mafia member (or a very clueless townie), and I supported the peacekeeper in the execution.
Okay, okay. I'm not trying to hang you. It was you who was throwing accusations in my direction today. That's why there are more suspicions.
Okay, you say it's peace, who should be executed in your opinion, and why?
I need to think. Vegtam's post today is encouraging; a mafia member wouldn't write something like that about Tox. Kitz is most likely not a mafia member. And it's not about Drag's post. I think he's a decoy in general.
Zubr, if Tox was really a clueless player, then Dragnil is a mafia member, right? And why would a mafia member give you truthful information about the investigation? Just to make you believe them next time?
I really have suspicions that he's a mafia member. Why did he give that information? He's pretending to be a cop. In this case, it looks more than convincing, considering his behavior on the first day. But it's not easy to expose him.
And checking Kitz was a waste of investigation points.

The third suspect is still Neyra. Despite my disbelief that she couldn't have participated in the murder of Imaris, her posts are very worrying. There's nothing in them but some kind of justifications.


Барон "Vampires"

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Не думай, что будет потом,
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Zybr
I really suspect that he is a Mafia member. Why did he give such information? He's pretending to be a Cop. In this case, it looks more than convincing, considering his behavior on the first day. But it won't be easy to expose him.
And checking Kits was a waste of a night.

The third suspect is still Neyra. Despite my disbelief that she couldn't have participated in the murder of Imaris, her posts are very worrying. They contain nothing but some kind of excuses.
It's a bad idea to pretend to be a Cop. Neyra doesn't seem right to me either.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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It's a bad idea to try and emulate Mental. I don't like Ney either.
He has the potential for it. But at this rate, we'll have to ban Ney.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Zybr
He has the potential for it. But at this rate, we'll have to ban Nairy.
There can't be two Ments XD
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Let it stay for now. Neira


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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chukcha, I am illiterate :(


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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