Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012

I would have played it completely differently.

I think that with such a significant imbalance in the map, Luna could have been the deciding factor, especially since the opponent wasn't in a hurry and allowed her to develop until the third week.

As a starting hero, Bron is firmly in the third tier. Wistan is much stronger, not so much because of his attack power, which is comparable, but because Bron is burdened with completely unnecessary resistance. In a standard map where Frontline Battle usually involves heroes of levels 10-15, it's desirable to keep every skill in mind.

Further, having reached the Gold Outpost, it's clear that we got incredibly lucky, with only 8-10 black dragons on the second level. Therefore, we must try to establish cows in both castles at all costs, even if it means neglecting the wyverns. On the first level, Luna should be the deciding factor, and after leveling up, she should take all the resource-generating buildings (Naga Temples, Medusa Towers, Cyclops Towers). I hope everyone is familiar with the Chinese videos. In general, I don't see anything too difficult in achieving 1-5 in the Citadel and cows in the Fortress as a secondary castle. In the second part of the game, focus on upgrading the main hero, upgrading the Gorgons, and moving towards the center. By the way, Wistan got Mass Earth on level 7, and that's how we cleared the treasure room. The only thing is that with the good resources that Mikhail had, it might not have been decisive, but the game definitely wouldn't have been one-sided.

The only problem is the possible failure to secure ore.

The second option (in my opinion, the best) is to develop in a standard way and get to the Sand Treasury as quickly as possible through the Inferno secondary castle (the map structure clearly indicated this, by the way, Wistan could easily defeat the guards there, while Bron just stands around).

The Moon unit should be the primary choice in the early game, and after upgrading, it should capture all the resource-generating structures (Naga Temples, Medusa Temples, Cyclops Temples). Hopefully, everyone is already familiar with the Chinese videos.

I'm not familiar with what you're talking about.

I'm not familiar; what are you talking about?

*facepalm*
It seems like he’s often on the forum, always in the discussion, and yet…
/topic/8518/
although after this, I don’t rule out that you might also miss this link because it’s at the end of page 12 :D

P.S. Could things have gone better here? (Let’s not talk about losing in banks :).

Well, Luna is a hero who doesn’t tolerate mistakes. Either you play Luna and meet all the standards, or you don’t play Luna. If you try to reinvent the wheel online, there’s a high chance of failure.
Does anyone remember the interportal game between Maretti and Stinger?

I would have played completely differently.

The second option (in my opinion, the best) is to develop normally and get to the sand treasury as quickly as possible through the Inferno secondary structure (the map structure was quite clear; by the way, Wistan could easily defeat the guards there, while Bron just stands around).

I had a moment of confusion – I thought there was no passage through the Inferno ("bug" in the mine), and I only realized this when I upgraded the extended vision skill. I rushed over, but of course, it was too late.

*facepalm*
Seems like you're often on the forum, always involved in discussions, but then this happens...
/topic/8518/
although after that, I don't rule out that you might also miss this link because it's at the end of page 12.

Whether you're actively participating or not is irrelevant. I can't afford to download every video from each link due to my poor internet connection. I read Oelm's post and wanted to download it.

Started with Aldegir.
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20.01.12 Psyche_7(blue,Fortress,Wystan,Wystan) def Aldegir(red,Stronghold,Krag Hack, Krag Hack), 2sm4d(3), 144

RomarioGrom vs bRitvo4kA
http://ru.twitch.tv/romariogrom

20.01.12 CryptoNight(blue,Dungeon,Shakti,Shakti) def Scorpiona(red,Fortress,Wystan,Wystan) 8mm6a 134

In week 1 everything went great — I flagged an external dwelling of Minotaurs, 3 stacks came to Shakti, set a portal, bought from the dwelling and the portal — on day 114 I went to kill the computer — had to endure arrow fire on 20 Troglodytes — but the computer seemed to give up without problems))) Afterwards I ran around the computer's respawn and my own, forgot I had Minotaurs and took a Gnoll external dwelling just to avoid the penalty :smile35: Had to take 2 more Troglodyte external dwellings)))
In week 2, I got busy, brought Minotaurs, and with a Light of Blessing first took the max Griffin Conservatory, then the near-max (both with a griffin stack on days 122 and 123 respectively) and flagged a Dragon Utopia on the respawn — with 7 Angels it fell, and on the 2nd one without issues — Shakti leveled up perfectly — Logistics, Earth Magic) Then I broke into the corner treasure zone (native) — flagged a Dragon and Minotaur external dwelling there (when I was about to go bust — and didn't manage to clear it on time — but on day 127 I still cleared it with a scout hero) Took the beehive in the treasure zone(6), the Dragon external dwelling, and busted Shakti home, made double mana and went to the Utopia. On day 126 the second Utopia was taken. Gave Boots +2 All, Captain's Hat, Helm +3, and Cloak of Resistance :( Didn't place Dragons — didn't have enough Sulfur — Manticores were built in the castle —
In week 3 I started with the stable — with a scout hero I captured the castle in the Dungeon treasure zone, busted there, took 3 beehives there (30 total) + Wyverns in the computer's fort on week 2 — that made 34 (but didn't buy 4 Wyverns) On day 132 I bust back home, replenish mana (scout hero ate double), upgrade 29 Minotaurs and move toward the flickering red scout hero, killing him with a Spy.
On day 134 I catch up to Wystan with a scout hero — and attack with Shakti
FB was very interesting and long:
My army: Shakti expertise Offense, Logistics, Tactics and Earth Magic, 2 levels Defense, 1 level Fire Magic and 1 level Air Magic 13 11 6 8(80), Army — 3 Chaos Hydras, 30 Wyverns, 29 gr Minotaurs, 22 Troglodytes, 16 gr Medusae, 7 Angels and a Harpy
Wystan — expertise Earth Magic, Defense, Tactics, Logistics and Archery 10 14 8 9(75). Army — 51 gr Lizardmen, 23 ungr Basilisks, 6 ungr Gorgons, 37 Wyverns, 4 Angels, 3-3 Wasps.
Round 1, mass Waits, at the end of the round Tanya casts Mass Slow — Wyverns resist :smile03: I also cast a Slow in response and get 1st move next round, Wyverns and Angels fly closer, Hydras burn through 2 Gorgons and 4 Basilisks;)
Round 2 — I cast Haste on Angels, Hydras remove retaliation from Wyverns, and Angels and Wyverns attack the right flank on Tanya's Wyverns — only 21 Wyverns remain, and I lose 2 Hydras. Then in retaliation her forces pile onto my Angels, casting Haste on Tanya's Angels — killing 3 of my Angels, 29 Minotaurs crawl into attack range;)
Round 3 Tanya's Angels Wait with 15 speed, and Tanya casts Slow (this time no resist on Wyverns), but the next turn still goes to my Angels) They almost hit-for-hit cut down 4 Gorgons and open a path for the Minotaurs, who with Haste charge into the Archers — dealing -38 on the attack. And then the Minotaurs started destroying everything — dealing -8 Wyverns on the attack and so on))) Basilisks petrified my Angels, and Tanya's Wyverns hit with Luck against mine — but even that wasn't enough :D The Minotaurs proved who's boss here)))
Thank you Tanya for an interesting game — good luck in the future;)
P.S. saves will be a bit later

20.01.12 CryptoNight(blue,Dungeon,Shakti,Shakti) def Scorpiona(red,Fortress,Wystan,Wystan) 8mm6a 134

FB quite interesting and long:
My army, Shakti expert offense, logistics tactics and earth, 2 lvl defense, 1 lvl fire and 1 lvl air 13 11 6 8(80), Army - 3 KDs, 30 wyverns, 29 gr minotaurs, 22 troglodytes, 16 gr medusas, 7 angels and a harpy
Wystan - expert earth, defense, tactics, logistics and archery 10 14 8 9(75). Army - 51 gr lizards, 23 negr basilisks, 6 negr gorgons, 37 wyverns, 4 angels, 3-3 bees.
Round 1, mass waits, at the end of the round Tanya casts mass slow - wyverns resist:smile03: I also cast slow in response and have 1 move on the next round, wyverns and angels fly closer, dragons burn 2 gorgons and 4 basilisks;)
Round 2 - I cast haste on the angels, dragons remove the retaliation from the wyverns, and angels and wyverns attack the right flank on Tanya's wyverns - only 21 wyverns remain, and I have -2 dragons. Then with retaliation they pile on my angels, Tanya casts haste on her angels - taking out 3 of my angels, 29 minotaurs crawl into striking distance;)
Round 3 Tanya's angels wait having 15 speed, and Tanya casts slow (this time without resist on the wyverns), but the next move is still my angels' turn) they almost hit for hit cut down 4 cows and open the path for the minotaurs, which with haste break into the shooters - taking out 38 from the strike. And then the minotaurs started demolishing everything - from the strike minus 8 wyverns etc))) Basilisks petrified my angels, and Tanya's wyverns hit with luck on mine - but even that was not enough:D The minotaurs proved who was who here)))
Thanks to Tanya for an interesting game - good luck in the future;)
P.S. saves will be a little later

The native respawn turned out to be large, though not very convenient, but rich. I spent the first week there… gathering resources for building. Wood was a big hassle, so I could only place the wyvern on 116, which prevented me from breaking through the shooter blocks earlier. On the respawn there was an external dwelling of basilisks and a couple of gnolls. 4 Dragon Fly Hives. A Griffin Conservatory.
On 117 I built the castle 1-6 with the last resources, seeing Dwarf Cottages on the respawn I knew there was a source to get them, but as a result I lost a couple of days farming money for the purchase.
The next maneuvers were taking the Dragon Fly Hives (12+12) +(4)… it's a pity that on one of the days I made a mistake in the chains (the scout had to break out of the chain for resources) and couldn't reach one of the Dragon Fly Hives deep in the respawn:( . Naga Banks were taken easily and Dwarf Cottages dropped. The Griffin Conservatory (4) was taken by a scout (pity it ate 6 cows:smile16: )
I went out to the center quite late. Nothing tasty came along the way. No Griffin Conservatories, no Utopias, no artifacts:smile31: .
On 134 I had the chance to run from Shakti, splitting into HGs and transfer the army to the other end of the respawn… Hmm seeing such power from Shakti I was of course uneasy:smile15: …
The FB was very disappointing with resists… only 10% from the sorcery but how they worked:eek: !!! A couple of times Lightning 210 planned to thin out the fat stacks at least a little but both times Resist triggered…
Thanks for the game! I really enjoyed it!;)

We will most likely play tomorrow.

Started with Aldegir.
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20.01.12 Psyche_7(blue,Fortress,Wystan,Wystan) def Aldegir(red,Stronghold,Krag Hack, Krag Hack), 2sm4d(3), 144

2 mistakes - first, I started as Gurnison 2- there's an error in the save with my nickname spelling..
as for the game -

111 - Gurni with 20 goblins + Zubarkas brought a couple of orcs .. wolves not built.. decided to build orcs ..
since it's been a very very long time since I played Barbarian .. and it's not my town anyway .. I prefer playing with Haven or Rampart ..
and there the tactic is ranged fire =)+ 2 more heroes +350 gold =) ... took out skeletons on the path and imps - got +1 defense and here's the mistake!
- saw a descent into the underground - guarded by fire elementals - decided to fight with 45 goblins, 12 orcs, 12 centaurs ..
barely pulled it off but only 2 orcs remained =( .. what was the point of attacking ..? second guard below - a horde of dire wolves...
Got discouraged.. but later saw an external dwelling of behemoths + a hive in the corner of the respawn.. and decided not to give up yet, but to keep fighting... Dunno though if anything will come of it =)

112 - gather resources and after building wolves, recruit them and capture resources from the imps - ballista is already upgraded .. so the ranged fire begins..

113 - build rocs .. only recruit 2 =( no money .. and some unclear hero shuffling starts =)
Trying to guess how to get to the external behemoth dwelling...

114 - only 4 crystals and 1 stone =( .. the stone mine is very far away .. but buying 1 more roc, we take out a group of gargoyles ..
+ grab the chest and build citadel.. apparently we won't manage to build behemoths .. since there's very little gold and crystals...
2 paths through off-road onto snow and swamp =( .. just our luck to be running there =)
115 - and we make a mistake again ... break through to the snow - 15 vampires +3 upgraded .. and lose 1 roc =( ... build a market .. since nothing else works out...
116 - decide not to risk it and not capture the external behemoth dwelling - since there's nothing to do it with =( .. build castle.. Gurni only level 4 =( but at least got earth magic..
117 - build behemoths =)... scouted 1 Griffin Conservatory.. too bad I got eliminated on day 1 .. otherwise I would have taken the external behemoth dwelling too =(
121 - buy another hero ... gather resources .... look for Slow ... level up earth magic... I look at the respawn and think - "how could one have accelerated here without making mistakes =) .. and take the secondary, external dwelling, etc.."
opponent already took a secondary .. only 1 though so not too scary .. but there's concern it's a swamp secondary..
122 - +1 attack in the upgrade building .. crawling at turtle speed to take the external behemoth dwelling .. terribly little money ...
123 - +1 spell power in the upgrade building ... bought another hero for some reason .. scouted another Griffin Conservatory on the snow .. a tiny spark of hope appeared ...
124 - bought 6 rocs and send Gurni ... he visited the stables..
125 - took the external behemoth dwelling ... lost 15 goblins and 6 wolves
126 - running around....
127 - captured a chest +1 knowledge upgrade for the monk and +1 defense in the upgrade building... recruit a behemoth from the external dwelling
131 - built a guild and bought a spell book .. and hooray we have Slow and Haste .. though earth magic is only advanced and 2-2 spell power and knowledge ... capture resources with the stack...
132 - try to level up to expert earth +2 levels but still nothing...
133 - have expert earth .. finally visited the lookout near the Griffin Conservatory and saw a bit of blue's respawn...
134 - bought a few behemoths .. 7 total ... +1 more not yet recruited ... took a minor Griffin Conservatory..
135 - took the Tower secondary..
136 - took another Griffin Conservatory and again minor =(... broke through to Naga for some reason and they killed 2 rocs with morale =(

137 - saw blues in the treasure zone 1 turn from our castle... 20+ wyverns +20+ wyverns + 2 slots of angels 1-5 ... stats 5-19 ... ours 13-5 =(
141 - planning to take the Naga bank + crypt + dwarf dwelling and upgrade behemoths .. but notice blue's movement in the underground under our castle...
142 - bought everything we could and await the attack of a horde of wyverns and hundreds of lizardmen =)... though we scouted another Griffin Conservatory and an exit to the treasure zone .. but got tired of dragging out this game .. started messing up in the beginning and continued...
143 - Wystan takes another hive
144 - Wystan attacks - 79 wyverns - 128 greater lizardmen and the rest .. I cast Slow .. he casts Mass Bless .. and when the lizardmen destroyed 5 behemoths through the castle wall .. I said gg...
as they say, a game for the record .. lost on the first day and the mindset was gone from there... if not for that loss .. there would have been many options and we could have had a normal run... but it came down to who exits into the treasure zone first below my castle .. there are about 10 hives in a row there =.)
Thanks for the game and good luck in the tournament!

It's time to finish the previous round.

RomarioGrom vs bRitvo4kA - what's going on here?

OUTLAW and Fidesxfx are going to finish their match today; the winner will face Gomunguls, and the loser will face the winner of RomarioGrom vs bRitvo4kA.

GoD vs Lider1 - urgent reports on the game!

The second round of the losers' bracket will be held from January 23rd to 27th, and the third round of the winners' bracket will be held from January 23rd to 29th.

GoD (Red, Stronghold, Crag, Crag) def Lider1 (Blue, Rampart, Ivor, Moner) 8mm6a 121

The leader merged on level 121 in the maxigame, just as I was starting to gain momentum. After a difficult first week, which involved rescuing my dad from a Шахтер-bot and clearing an empty bot dungeon on level 121, there were 2 cons, one mini, which was taken on level 122...

Thanks for the game!

GoD (Red, Stronghold, Crag, Crag) def Lider1 (Blue, Rampart, Ivor, Moner) 8mm6a 121

The opponent merged on turn 121 in the maxigame, just as I was starting to gain momentum. After a difficult first week, which involved rescuing my father from a Шахтер-bot and clearing an empty bot dungeon on level 121, there were 2 cons, one of which was a mini, and it was taken on level 122...

Thanks for the game!

That happened.

Thanks for the game.

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