Posts from Jebus Cross - 2.

Didn't realize that right away. A definite advantage of the Swiss system is that it allows you to match up opponents who have a common time for games, which is also an important thing.

It seems she is rarely played on HeroesWorld.

and for good reason. Various qualifiers where it is necessary to determine the top N players should only be held using the Swiss system!

d-neez
ICQ 4397O5O
10 минут

I’ll give it a try.
WishmasteR
570865745
10 minutes

I'm in favor of 16 groups of 4 players each. There isn't much time for the group stage – each player has 3 games in their group. Each player will have at least 3 games. Pasha, I didn't understand the issue about players not making it out of the group? If several players have the same number of points, there's the Berger coefficient, head-to-head results, and who finished all the games faster – we already have experience with this in tournaments. Then, from the round of 16, it's an Olympic-style bracket. In my opinion, this is a good option.

I also support the idea of having 16 groups of 4.

Oleg, sorry, but I went through everything again and probably won't be able to handle Jebus Cross in 10 minutes. I hope a replacement isn't a problem — there are plenty of people interested

Nothing terrible has happened yet.

Cons of the system with 16 groups of 4 people:

1. In some groups, everything will be decided on time (and in some even ahead of schedule, given a clear certainty regarding place distribution). Others will require additional games, sometimes 2-3 rounds (for example, this happened in "allrandom", where a situation occurred where "seven are waiting for one"). It should also be noted that there will be no fast games, such as the SoD template on 10 minutes.

2. What is the point of spending 2 months on a preliminary stage of little interest if it's followed by a "lottery" Olympic stage; wouldn't it be more logical to play for elimination right away?

3. Experience shows that on "long" templates, the fewer insignificant games there are, the better for the participants.

P.S.

Experience regarding additional indicators in relation to groups of 4 people is completely unsuccessful.

Berger and head-to-head encounters do not work in most cases.

For example, in my group on "allrandom", a situation arose where between Artem - Cobra and myself, the one who played sooner against Marajan—who by that time had already lost his chances—would advance to the next stage. We decided to play additional games to avoid this absurdity.

abuseYT
347-911-297
8 минут

it's been a while since we had a Swiss-system tournament, but a double-elimination bracket will do, plus the advantage is that there are no meaningless games.
Pasha has already said everything about the disadvantages of group stages - this isn't the Champions League in football, so there's no commercial sense in them.

Juristis
488-784-621 ICQ
juristis18 - Skype
8 мин

RiMpel2, if possible, create a video recording of the draw (people love watching videos).

Piterius
ICQ: 407907277
10 min
for the Swiss system.

Volodymyr
297363980
10 min
Double elimination