Tactics against Necromancers. — Tactics

Geksorin

11/26/2006 5:37 AM UTC

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Well, I had something similar happen to me once. 220 Psychic Elementals joined my army, and when I looked at the battle preview later, I realized that if they had attacked, I would have barely won... so, thanks to them, I actually won the map!

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"

Pablo N Ochoa

11/26/2006 7:01 AM UTC

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It’s difficult to fight against the Undead… But they also have weaknesses; almost half of the beneficial spells don’t work on them… Besides, there’s special magic against them, only one archer, and the Dragon is completely useless, so only Vampires and Liches save the Undead. But I fight against them with Towers; there are many archers, and they are strong, and I send Golems into battle: 1-armor, 2-magic resistance, 3-vampires can’t bite them, and of course, magic. Otherwise, they aren’t that strong if you fight against them SKILLFULLY and TACTICALLY…

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Darth Saruman

11/26/2006 6:00 PM UTC

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Pablo N Ochoa;48381

It's tough to fight against the Undead... But they also have weaknesses; almost half of the beneficial spells don't work on them... Plus, there's special magic against them, only one archer, and the Dragon is completely useless, so only Vampires and Liches save the Undead. But I fight them with Towers; there are many archers, and they are strong, and I send Golems into battle: 1-armor, 2-magic resistance, 3-vampires can't bite them, and of course, magic. Otherwise, they aren't that strong if you fight them intelligently and tactically...

If Necromancers had Black Knights again, everything would

Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание

AlexeyPank

11/26/2006 6:09 PM UTC

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Against the Necropolis, other Necropolis factions are just as effective. Sometimes, they are perhaps the only real rivals. It also makes sense to talk about the Dungeon faction – Black Dragons, double mana, and good morale for the Minotaurs. Plus, the ability to buy back troops from external dwellings. Sometimes, this gives a significant advantage.

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Draco_Lich

11/26/2006 8:28 PM UTC

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Pablo N Ochoa;48381

3 - Vampires can't attack.

Of course - there's nothing to attack. :D

Страшней драколича зверя нет!
Жаль, не лебедь я...

Сандро (не)жив! :D :D :D

Влюбившийся дурак на глупости горазд (с)

В сказке грусти синей я один, как бог... (с)

Pablo N Ochoa

11/26/2006 10:22 PM UTC

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You can’t get blood from a stone…

:smile03: Я ВЕРНУЛСЯ!!!

AlexeyPank

11/28/2006 4:56 AM UTC

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But the melee units are too slow. And against Necromancers, speed plays a very important role. Therefore, it is desirable to take fast units so that you can end the battle in your first turn, or inflict decisive damage.

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Geksorin

11/28/2006 6:36 AM UTC

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I absolutely agree with you; that's why Conflux is effective against Necropolis; you won't get any blood, and it also provides speed and is useful in difficult situations, like with Armageddon!

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"

AlexeyPank

11/28/2006 7:18 AM UTC

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And also, the Dungeon is effective. Black Dragons, flying Manticores, Minotaurs with good morale, Harpies, and two units of Archers. Plus, doubled mana and the ability to buy creatures from external dwellings. A very powerful town against Necropolis. But they have few hit points (except for the Black Dragons) – Vampires can seriously damage them. Therefore, the first thing to do is to attack the Vampires.

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Geksorin

11/28/2006 7:33 AM UTC

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Well, if we judge by how morality affects luck, then the Stronghold is also very strong against Necropolis due to its attack power, and the bears that can be directed against vampires and skeletons, and the ogres themselves are very strong!

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"

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OlegRS

11/28/2006 7:37 AM UTC

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Geksorin;47729

Yesterday, my friend and I were discussing tactics against a Necromancer who had gathered the Amulet of the Lich and somehow amassed around 20,000 Liches. We were considering Humans (as the opposing force) and concluded that it's possible to win such a battle if all your skills are at 99. In that case, you can summon Earth Elementals, but you need to be at least an expert in Earth and Air magic. And you need to get to the point where... when you finally kill the Liches, you need to restore at least one of your own units... but in reality, we'll be testing this today with real armies and real magic!... I'll report the results tomorrow. Oh, and the Necromancer supposedly has skills around 40...

Can you tell me what map this is? I've never seen 20,000 Liches before.

"Мы принимаем бой!!!!!!!" - кричали они:D :D :D

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Darth Saruman

11/28/2006 8:04 AM UTC

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In my opinion, it's quite good against Necropolis and Castle! When you have a lot of halberdiers and crossbowmen, as well as crusaders and champions, then you can give the undead a good fight! Archangels with resurrection also help!

Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание

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AmberSoler

11/28/2006 12:22 PM UTC

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OlegRS;48864

Tell me, what map is this, I've never seen 20k liches:)?

There are quite a few such maps. Any L or XL map that features legions of neutrals can bring a necro player with the Cloak of the Undead King a very large number of liches.

I remember one map where the stacks I was accumulating liches into got nullified (this is a program bug that occurs when processing large numbers). There were about 500k liches! I didn't notice this glitch, and then at one point I look - and they're already "0"... Or rather, "minus" :) I had to go back and replay... VDV_forever should remember that map well... He showed himself heroically there :)

Сначала было слово...
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AlexeyPank

11/28/2006 6:04 PM UTC

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It's practically impossible to fight against such a large number of liches. Unless you manage to gather similar hordes of neutral creatures and mega-dragons through diplomacy. But the best approach is to prevent them from gathering so many liches in the first place.

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Inquisitor

11/28/2006 6:07 PM UTC

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In my opinion, one of the Necropolis's greatest strengths is its vampires. If used effectively during battle, they constantly regenerate. You can defeat them either with a fully upgraded 7th-level unit or with archers.