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Offline Gil4
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Sky, thank you. So, there's still no information on Aves' status. Execute Vishmaster. This is just in case I don't have time to vote after school. Let's keep the vote on Vish for now. I'll change it if necessary. Aves, what should I analyze? I don't have any new thoughts about analyzing the newspaper, except for the lack of information on the Blacksmith. And I've already outlined the plan of action. And I'm not suggesting that the Templars "lose or lose." In the second scenario, the chances will be equal. We know Amko, I'm not 100% sure about TaCo, we know Hermi, but he's more of a supporting vote and a backup for the night, and Marshal is completely unknown. In this scenario, whoever manages to win the vote will win. In my opinion, that's fair. Part of the town is also known. Well, luckily, there are only 5 mafia members, not 6. I hope Vish turns out to be a Witch - then there will be only four of them left.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here
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If I was wrong, Master – and it’s not TaKo – we have many ways to get rid of you. For example, we can vote Hermi out. You can’t resurrect the hanged (or burned). And after that, you won’t be capable of anything.
That’s strange. The Templars are friends with the city, aren’t they?

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Who could be the blacksmith? Could it be Slonysh? But no one could kill her; only the Hunter and the Marshal have tried. It’s unlikely that the Marshal would protect anyone other than a Master, and the Hunter only kills the cursed. It’s unclear who the blacksmith is.
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Sky, thank you.
So, there's still no information about Eaves' role.
Execute Vishmaster. This is just in case I don't have time to vote after school. Let him stay on Vish for now. I'll change it if necessary.

Eaves, what should I analyze? I don't have any new thoughts based on the newspaper analysis, except for the lack of information about the Blacksmith. And I've already outlined the plan of action. And I'm not suggesting that the Templars "lose or lose." In the second scenario, the chances will be equal. We know Amko, I'm not 100% sure about TaCo, we know Hermi, but he's more of a supporting vote and a backup for the night, and Marshal is completely unknown. In this scenario, whoever manages to win the vote will win. In my opinion, this is fair. Part of the town is also known. Well, luckily, there are already 5 mafia members, not 6. I hope Vish turns out to be a Witch - then there will be only four of them left.

Wait, why execute Vishmaster? Please, explain the reasons for such an action in more detail.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Offline Gil4
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Imaris, the Bishop is dead. As soon as the Inquisitor dies, the Templars will be in a winning position. Once we get rid of the Mafia with the Bishop and Inquisitor dead, victory will be for the Templars. We need to maintain balance. Eliminate the Mafia, but also prevent the Templars from achieving such an overpowered combination with a ressurrector and two protectors. They can't be stopped at night anyway. And also, I hope you're not serious about the Blacksmith Slonysh? A Blacksmith with an axe? And the Marshal has already protected two different players. And it wasn't "unlikely." :D
Aves, isn't this obvious? It's been mentioned several times. Vish's Night Defense was stolen. The Thief left a note saying he would go to the fifteenth from the end. That's Amko. Amko was killed. There were two assassination attempts in total. One of the Night Defenses belongs to the Thief who visited Vishmaster. This is almost guaranteed. There is a chance of error, but I don't see even a remotely plausible interpretation explaining the absence of another Night Defense used on Amko if it wasn't a killing Night Defense.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here
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Offline WishmasteR
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Hmm... I've always considered my weakness in Mafia to be my inability to defend myself against beautiful, even if false, accusations (I remember the cake incident in Magnus's Mafia), but I'll try. Aren't you afraid that by eliminating me, you'll repeat the story with Neyra? After all, there's a chance that the thief didn't use my Night Watchman (if it doesn't fit the thief's "function"), and the witch simply went to Amka before being killed by the adept or antichrist. There's also evidence against Gura, who, although very passive, is clearly a demon worshiper, and he could be sent on a mission, with the justification that he's already been exposed. I agree with the theory about the balance of power: 2 demon worshipers and 2 occultists are better than 1 against 3, but wouldn't it be better to look for options regarding the metal piece and the stone? I, for one, don't have any ideas on this yet; it seems that Heaven has done a good job with the clues... In short, town, decide which option is more reliable. I've made my choice. Execute Gura.
Regarding the lack of Night Watchman from the blacksmith – could it be that it's Visci who's been blocked?
I'm too f*cking old
To sell my soul
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Offline Gil4
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Wish, I was thinking about the functionality, but... Let's say he couldn't use Night Action. But from the town roles with Night Actions that don't fit his functionality, you can only be:
1. Inquisitor - his turn was tonight. Checking for Town Cop.
2. Loan Shark - his turn was also tonight, he was trying to bribe me.
The other roles with Night Actions that don't fit the Thief's functionality are no longer town roles (and some are dead/known to us, so it's not you). And who are you trying to portray yourself as? Don't get me wrong, I said I just left a vote, I'm still looking for clues and I am now. But the version with you is still too likely.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here
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Imaris, the Bishop is dead. As soon as the Inquisitor dies, the Templars will be in a winning position.
Clear.
No, I didn't say she was a blacksmith. She's an executioner, I realized that now.)
If the marshal defended different factions, then he's a fool.
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Offline Mestear
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Gil4
Imaris, the Bishop is dead. As soon as the Inquisitor dies, the Templars will be in a winning position. Once we get rid of the Mafia with the Bishop and Inquisitor dead, victory will be ours. We need to maintain balance. Eliminate the Mafia, but also prevent the Templars from achieving such an overpowered combination with a ressurrector and two protectors. It's almost impossible to do anything to them at night. And also, I hope you're not serious about the Blacksmith, "Slo-nyash"? A Blacksmith with an axe? And the Marshal has already protected two different players. And nothing happened, it wasn't "unlikely." :D
Aves, isn't this obvious? It's been mentioned several times. Vish's Night Defender was stolen. The Thief left a note saying he was going to the fifteenth from the end. That's Amko. Amko was killed. There were two attempts on his life. One of the Night Defenders belongs to the Thief who visited Vishmaster. This is almost guaranteed. There is a chance of error, but I don't see any even unlikely interpretations explaining the absence of another Night Defender used on Amko if it wasn't a killing Night Defender.
Why don't they want to execute Gur? The note could be fake, who knows what's in it. It's better to rely on evidence than on a note.
And your statements are kind of strange, or something. It really looks like you're Mafia, let others read your posts, it's interesting to see their opinion.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Offline Gil4
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It would have been pointless for the Rogue to remain silent and not write a note. And fake notes are easily identified. Therefore, the one in the newspaper is genuine. I remember that even Mourne specifically asked him to write a note.
As for my statements... Well, appealing to the Templars is a standard move for me; it's logical. I did the same with TaCo in the previous game. If the Templars agree, the chances of winning will be equalized. Moreover, it will increase the chances for both sides. It's a mutually beneficial agreement. Why wouldn't they agree? After that, everything will depend solely on the professionalism of the players on all sides. And that's better than a mass defeat of the city and the Templars by the Mafia.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here
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Offline Киц Кицунька
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Yes, Vish, he might just turn out to be a loan shark from the peaceful roles, based on the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). So what? What if on the first night he went to Taco, bribed her, and then his NDA was stolen. On the second night, a thief with Vish's NDA went to Gil and bribed him. Isn't that possible? And the poison was brought to Amko by a witch... and the thief's note is just a typical Mafia setup.
I don't want to excuse anyone, but it will be bad if Vishmaster and I also mess up as we did with Neyra.
And again, I'm not sure about Gur. Everything seems suspicious. As already mentioned, he has a quote from the comedy movie "The Mask" in his profile... this could be evidence against him. Let's remember the murder of Hermit. This wasn't discussed with as much enthusiasm as the situation with Vish. In both cases, mistakes are possible.
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In general, I'll say this: the Mafia has convincingly persuaded the townspeople that Naira herself is a member of the Mafia. Now, history is repeating itself, even though they've found a suitable candidate for execution – Gura. Some are still searching, but what's the logic behind that? It's a pretty good plan, and it's not hard to guess who's behind it. However, the note could be a fake.
Execute Gura
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Offline Киц Кицунька
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Gil4
It would have been pointless for the thief to remain silent and not write a note. And fake ones aren't visible.
Maybe he wasn't an active member and didn't read Morny's post, so he didn't reply.
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Offline Gil4
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Kitz, we only have one inactive player, and it's becoming quite clear what their role is, haha. So, the note is correct. Aves, don't you think executing someone based on such evidence is too risky? Executing Vish in this situation is riskier, seriously? :) You're clearly protecting your teammate too much.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here
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