Posts from Мафия 28. The Lonely nights in Neville

Removing two useless town characters from the game, thereby narrowing the circle of suspects. And regarding Lizard... it's all your noobish, idiotic tactic for identifying MAFIA BEHAVIOR, utter nonsense. The Mafia only lost a killer, then a geisha, and then a plesiosaur. Taco is playing for the town, the guys are protecting Ghil, and he's also a cop. I already said that they could have saved them for one night, until Taco finished them off. JUST OUR TACTICS. BOYS.

Yeah... I was actually looking forward to this game, thinking it was time for me to win as Mafia... but no, in Vega's absence, TaCo decided to just get revenge. I'm not happy with the Mafia either! Guys, what's up with you, killing those who the mob is targeting? Random selection would have been the best approach. Or, at least, you could have chosen the shadow players, but no, you decided to kill Gil with his banners and posts, and he absolutely had to be killed. Even though I said that I could be killed, you could have also thought that no one would be arrested on the first day, and you should have killed the boss who ignores the defense, and then it would have been clearer who to send the killer to and who not to.
Based on the clues, Zubr, no offense, but they're too obvious and ultimately lead to TaCo. I was sure that the clue was in the "messenger of death," which is essentially the "angel of death," and from there, the options are only TaCo and Masini with her anime-style avatar (Angels of Death is a kind of anime).
In general, I prefer playing with Nebo, with his mind-blowing chains of reasoning.

Removing two useless city characters from the game

There are no useless characters, only useless players. :smile08: Regardless of the role. Any role is a plus one person on someone's side, plus one vote in the voting.

The guys are defending Gil, and he's also a cop.

Do you even understand what you just said? The city was wasting its defenses on the protected Gil due to random chance. What a joke, luck!

In general, it was just bad luck. In the end, the city played well, but also just due to a bunch of random events.

Of course, it was just luck. Gil and I wore out our fingers analyzing possible actions and scenarios in ICQ. But if it makes you feel better, then sure, it was random chance, the coin landed that way.
I see that people who can't think through and calculate options naively assume that others are also deprived of this ability.

Well, I said that Man would kill the Mafia, so Tako is good :3

And you barely managed to stay alive, practically auto-killed yourself. If you didn't want to play, you shouldn't have signed up. :confused:

And regarding Lizard... it's all your noob-stupid tactic for identifying MAFIA BEHAVIOR, what a load of crap.

Calm down. We're not in a relationship where this kind of attack can be considered friendly.
I understand that some people just don't know how to lose (and also don't know how to play, but they don't see the connection between these two things), but why get so upset? The train has left.

The fact that you completely failed to understand whether we executed based on clues or behavior is obvious - and here is the logical result, based on skill and outcome.

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Yeah... I was actually preparing for this game, thinking it was time for the Mafia to win... but no, in the absence of Vega, Tako decided to just get revenge.

And we still would have lost if the Mafia:

1. Had saved the killer, the only one Gil and I were afraid of at night;
2. Had saved the drug lord;
3. Had used the abilities of the deputy and the racketeer.

By the way, I'm very interested in why Nebo agreed to switch his vote from Tako to Vis? If I'm not mistaken, Masini's double vote hadn't been revealed anywhere yet, and he couldn't have known that the majority would have voted without him.

It would have been understandable if you had brought in the police or both politicians in this way; there would have been a reason to be indignant.

Did you even understand what you just said? The city was wasting its defenses on the already protected Gill for no reason. What a load of crap, luck!

Oh yes, out of the strong players, you only have Gill, and the doctor can't go anywhere else but to him.

Of course, it's stupid. Gill and I wore out our fingers analyzing possible actions and scenarios in ICQ. But if it makes you feel better, then of course, it was just luck, the coin landed that way.
I see that people who can't think through and calculate options naively believe that others are also deprived of this ability.

You are too impulsive and maximalist; I didn't say that EVERYTHING was decided by luck. I said "LUCK WAS ON YOUR SIDE." A lot was decided because of it.

And you don't seem to care about getting killed, you practically killed yourself. If you didn't want to play, you shouldn't have signed up.

Go ahead, justify your noob tactics with your Mafia-style behavior. There's a lot of psychology involved.

Calm down. We don't have that kind of relationship, so this attack can't be considered friendly.
I understand that some people just don't know how to lose (and also don't know how to play, but they don't see the connection between these two things), but why are you so upset? The train has left.

The fact that you didn't even figure out whether we executed based on the evidence or based on behavior is obvious – and that's the logical outcome, based on skill and the result.

That's the point, we're on the internet. And this isn't an attack, it's criticism.
Oh yes, you arrested Lizzie based on the evidence, well done guys!
I'm not "unable to lose"; we lost, yes, I don't argue. When we play Generals with Revan, for example, and after my victory, he writes "The Auroras decided, it's an overpowered faction," I don't argue because they really did decide, and it really is overpowered. But you have a very strange reaction; it seems like you don't know how to win.
I understand the criteria you used to execute; we knew the roles just as well as you did.

Vae victis.

Thanks to everyone for the game. :)
Special thanks to Slonysh; I got a lot of enjoyment from the game thanks to this wonderful team. :) I wish we could be this lucky with a team more often, even if the team is small. :)
Also, thanks to TaKo for the help; I am sincerely grateful. :)
Flandre - thanks for the healing; you saved the game with your Necromancy. :)
Morni - well, at least you didn't betray us at the end of the game, but at the beginning, and that's something to be thankful for.
Ar - it's a pity you got sick, but you should have read the rules before the game; I think you would have remembered how easily you can die, just by running into a player... Be more careful next time, please. :)
Masini - thanks for listening. :)
Thorium - it's a pity that we didn't get to fight you properly. I think it would have been an interesting game if you had lasted a couple of days longer. :)
Hermi - thanks for defending so faithfully until the very end. :)
Vis - there's no need to get personal. If you think we only won because of luck, then so be it. But there's no need for these offensive remarks directed at me and Slonysh. You know perfectly well that Liz was acting too carelessly for a peaceful player. And you would have taken care of him yourself if you were a city player. Fine, we got an overpowered advantage and won only because of that. I don't want to get into a further argument with you. It was nice to compete; thanks for not giving up. :)

I think you guys aren't really reading my posts, or if you are, you're only reading the first few lines of each paragraph and then making up the rest. Gil and Slonysh, if it's not too much trouble, please reread it.
If Slonysh is offended, I apologize; you're misunderstanding my words. I might have been offended a couple of times by your communication style here, not in this thread.

Hello everyone! :)\ \ Well, it seems I was the only one who just had fun throughout the game. :)\ \ So, let's begin. For the second game in a row, I decided to visit Toriy on the first night. Oops! It was very, very successful (Yes, yes, sorry Toriy, it really was revenge, but nothing personal!). The evidence against me was light, but it was the first night, and I was sure they wouldn't hang me.\ \ Second night. Here, I killed purely based on suspicion – Ney immediately gave herself away with her behavior (at least, to me). I decided to reduce the number of Mafia members first because 1) they are more dangerous to me than the town. 2) usually, the Serial Killer has almost no chance of winning, and by default, the Serial Killer usually helps the town. Ney turned out to be a Mafia member... great. The town cheerfully sings an ode to the Serial Killer :) But the evidence is as simple as it gets. More precisely, it's not just simple, it's unambiguous. There's no one else to shift the blame to. Oksana, you're smart! I was sure they would hang me. But the town voted discordantly – which is clearly to my advantage. :)\ \ Third night. I understand that I'm exposed, and there's no chance of winning, so I decided to continue helping the town. And here's where I made a mistake, in a way. I was sure that Hermi was the Mafia boss (4 killers – the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse). In the end, I was glad that I hit the mark so accurately – the role is really good! Plus, Ara's "suicide" (By the way, you've already committed suicide twice because of me – and you know perfectly well that you'll die :D). The evidence is clear and confirms my involvement once again.\ \ During the day, everyone continues to shout that I'm the Serial Killer... it's pointless to deny it. And I don't. :) Instead, with my help, the town executes Vis. One less Mafia member =))\ \ Fourth night – well, let's continue to have fun. :) We kill Ple-Sen, who has been exposed. A perfect hit :)) I admire myself. \ \ Day... it's strange that I haven't been executed yet :D They execute Lisa. I'm sure he's not a Mafia member – but would I say that? The end of the game is near, and there's a faint hope... Based on his behavior since the third day, I suspect Nebo, but I'm not 100% sure, and I don't need to be – I keep quiet. )))\ \ And then comes the most important night. There's one Mafia member left, 2 cops (I understand that it's most likely Gil and Slonysh – and how did I miss their connection! Where were my eyes!!!), the deputy mayor, the housekeeper, and me. If the Mafia goes for a kill... Eh. Well, whatever. I kill Gur, because I understand that I won't be able to reach the cops. I'm having a lot of fun (the newspaper's name is my idea!).\ \ Day. I hope they execute me; then everything could have been different =)) But the town turned out to be smarter, and that's it. Congratulations on the victory! I hope they'll release me under amnesty :))) I'm a good girl!\ \ And overall, my impression of the game. I liked it :) I had a lot of fun! I feel sorry for the Mafia, but they really made mistakes – on the first night, during the daytime votes, and they gave themselves away with their behavior. But I wasn't allowed to play last time, so I was kind of making up for it :D As for minor criticism, the evidence against me was too simple and unambiguous (in many cases). I don't drink, I don't smoke – not at all. But overall, it's not a big deal... I'm not mad at Zubr. A couple of cops – they're very smart, and they made me happy. They formed a very strong team on their own!\ \ Yan, thank you for the game!!!

Gil
I read the rules, but before submitting the save file, I didn't think about it because I wanted to test your version.

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(By the way, this is the second time you've sacrificed yourself for me - and you knew perfectly well that you would die)

Suicidal tendencies, nothing can be done about it) and I like dangerous girls, yes.

Suicidal tendencies, nothing can be done about it) and I like dangerous girls, yes.

:D :o Well, that means come back sometime! Let's chat!

Gil
I read the rules, but before submitting the save file, I didn't think about it because I wanted to test your version.

I don't even know which is worse: submitting a save file without thinking about the consequences, or not reading the rules properly. :D The main thing is that we won. I think next time you'll be more careful.

That guy is such a suck-up to the town :\ what kind of maniac is he if he only kills mafia members?

SPOT ON!:p :D


:o Overall - it's not true... At first, I killed to protect myself. Then, yes, when I was revealed, it's better IMO to help the town than the mafia!:p

TaKo, and remember my post, with a request to help the city, an appeal from the administration. :D

:o Overall, that's not true... At first, I killed to protect myself. Then, yes, when I was exposed, it was better, in my opinion, to help the town rather than the mafia!:p

Besides, we weren't interested in your death. :)

Thanks to everyone for participating :) Special thanks to Taco :) Great game! I'm still impressed after the tavern game, and this night game was amazing :) -3 mafia, -1 agent, -1 journalist - that's impressive :smile20:

Yeah, I was also "on fire" there. I like the role of investigators the most!!! but I also enjoyed being a town member :)