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Maps: Tribes of the East
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Offline PavliG
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I replayed, taking into account the Manticore, and captured the Castle, losing only 60 Goblins. After that, everything went smoothly. It's a pity I didn't notice the second Manticore right away; now there are twice as many Lion creatures.

I just don't understand how to survive in the desert and where exactly those darn lizards are located, near which there's a tear? When I bought the map, I realized that there were several stacks of them in the desert...

Regarding the bugs (0.7), there are only minor issues so far: on the edges of the map, in some places, you can see carts, but you can't take their contents. Or there's a booth with a spell, but it's impossible to see what the spell is (near the second Manticore and 3 Forgotten Hero armors).
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I replayed, taking into account the Manticores; I captured the Castle, losing only 60 Goblins, and after that, everything went smoothly. It's a pity that I didn't notice the second Manticores right away; now there are twice as many Lion Cubs.

I just didn't understand how to survive in the desert and where exactly those damned Lizards are located, near which the Tear is found? When I bought the map, it turned out that there are several stacks of them in the desert...

As for the bugs (0.7), there are only minor ones so far: on the edges of the map, in some places, you can see carts, but you can't take their contents, or there's a booth with a spell, but it's impossible to see what spell it is (near the second Manticores and three pieces of Forgotten Hero's armor).


60 Goblins? I got the "Freezing Cold" spell in the Pyramid, but I still lost 110+ Goblins, a Giant, a Manticores, all the Mages, and a couple of Djinns... Although, I didn't really worry about the losses.

What do Lizards and the Tear have to do with it? The Tear isn't with the Lizards; reread the poem... To travel through the desert, you need to go to the booth in the south of the desert; there you will complete part of the quest... Plus, you need to have certain skills, which you also learn from the poem.

To see the spell, you need to kill a bunch of Cyclops... :)
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No, the Cyclops were killed. You already know the spell that's written there, but you're clicking on it with the mouse, and it doesn't show which spell it is. But these are minor issues.
Thanks for the rest. :)

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60 Goblins? I got "Freezing Cold" in the pyramid, but I still lost 110+ Goblins, a Giant, a Manticore, all the mages, a couple of Djinns...
:smile08: Well, I got "Earth Shock" in the pyramid, took 3 (if I had known there were two Manticore nests, I wouldn't have lost anything; you just turn the Goblins or whoever they're shooting at into Vampires and restore the Mummies at the end to replenish the numbers). I also got a Manticore, 6 upgraded Rakshasa, about 260 Goblins, and 6 Mummies. I lost a lot of Djinns on the way to the castle, and I didn't buy anyone near the castle so I would have enough for the Capitol. The computer mainly attacked the Goblins, as they are the lowest-level unit... that's basically it, and then... :smile17:

Luck (luck on the road + trophies) helped a lot in terms of the severe resource shortage on the map. However, I didn't quite understand how, with the "Evil Superhero" on the island, where there's a lot of wood nearby, I didn't manage to collect half of the wood. When luck on the road is high, shouldn't every stack be collected, or is that how it's supposed to work?:confused:
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Luck (luck on the road + trophies) helped a lot in terms of a severe resource shortage on the map, but I didn't quite understand how, on the water with a super-hero villain on an island where there's a bunch of wood nearby, only half of the wood was collected. When luck on the road + level is high, shouldn't every stack be collected? Or is that how it's supposed to work?:confused:
I didn't change anything in this regard.
It seems that "luck on the road" only increases the quantity of resources, and doesn't affect whether they appear or not.
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I really liked the map. I completed it playing as the Barbarian in 156 days. I'm looking forward to the sequel. Many thanks to the author.
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Hey, how do you deal with a group of 2 stacks of 5k Black Dragons and 2 stacks of 27k Witches? I mean, you can turn one and berserk the other, but while you're doing that, 10k Black Dragons wipe out any number of groups. You can't slow them down with Chaos or Darkness.
Or is my case already hopeless, and I should have come earlier? (5th month, "hero") :)\

Also, on the edge of the map, near the Human Castle, you can't "raid" (Archers and Ents - summon trees and gold), and at the beginning of the map, there's a cart on the edge that you can't pick up (v.0.7).
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There's a replay somewhere on the forum showing how to kill 13k green dragons with two goblins... Apparently, it's the same strategy, but you need to eliminate the sorceresses right away... Here, it's all about Darkness, Subjugation, and Berserk... But I don't understand why they need to be eliminated)))
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I defeated this group in the following way. On the battlefield, I placed 4 squads of mummies, each with 9 units, and a group of manticores, totaling 287 units. I cast "Subjugation" and "Berserk" on the witches. We attack the dragons. The dragons attack the mummies. The mummies resurrect each other. When only the witches remain, we raise the manticores and cast "Vampirism" on them. As a result, we win without any losses. After the battle, the "Spoils" stat gave 1300 sulfur, 2,400,000 gold, and 8,500,000 experience points.
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After the battle, the "Spoils" stat gave 1300 sulfur, 2,400,000 gold, and 8,500,000 experience points.
Wow...
And here's a quest for sulfur... Looks like I need to think about something...
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Yeah... There's no way to win against hardcore players... Guys, who told you that you even need to kill this team? :confused:
Dyrman, you need something like a guard in the dungeon in "Journey," otherwise they'll still break through!:smile09:
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Yeah... There's no way to win against hardcore players... Guys, who told you that you even need to kill this team? :confused:
Dyrman, you need something like a guard in the dungeon in "Journey," otherwise they'll still break through!:smile09:

It's all nonsense: the problem isn't that they'll break through, but that they get so many resources after the battle. So, I'll reduce the trophies and the bonus for defeating the enemy.
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Just remove Berserk and Subjugation :D
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Just remove Berserk and Subjugation :D
Will they be able to complete it then? :)
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22 thousand witches is unlikely, but a map, of course.
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Well, if we're being serious, it's enough to leave a huge number of black dragons. And have several groups of them – then Battle Pathfinding won't help. But even in this case, killing nK dragons with a couple of mummies will tire out even the most persistent super player.
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