Discussion of the Necropolis faction. — Necropolis

=Feel999=

15 years ago

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It's just unclear how the undead, led by the spider queen, came to have such a goal.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

Ple-Sen

15 years ago

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Don't be silly, they were originally religious fanatics, and they do what their goddess tells them to do – and it's worth noting that this goddess represents Haven.

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=Feel999=

15 years ago

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Ple-Sen

Don't be silly, they were originally religious fanatics, and they do what their goddess tells them to do, and that goddess is the goddess of Haven.

I'm really being slow here; Asha is the goddess of Haven. And overall, it was a good decision to replace the dragon with a spider, because the Necropolis doesn't worship dragons.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

Ple-Sen

15 years ago

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Asha is a dragon; the spider is just one of her manifestations. But she doesn't stop being a dragon because of that.

markal

15 years ago

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More precisely, the creature that necromancers worship is the dragon of balance. And the spider is associated with balance because it weaves its web carefully, ensuring that all sides are equal, as if balanced. No side outweighs the other, and necromancers also try to maintain a balance between good and evil, ensuring that nothing dominates.

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Карлсон

15 years ago

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Will the Necropolis faction have a Sphinx? Is there a screenshot?

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VaRvArHawk

15 years ago

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It looked like a regular sword attack, but they also hiss with their mouths open, which is understood as drinking blood, plus they wanted to emphasize that when blood touches a dead vampire, it will revive.

Vampires with swords in Heroes 5 look great; it would be nice if a sword attack was just a sword attack, and a bite was an ability (approached, bit:smile24:), with more damage from the sword and the bite being a way to recover:smile08:.

:smile24: Клан ВАМПИРЫ:smile19:

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=Feel999=

15 years ago

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VaRvArHawk

Vampires with swords look great in the 5th game, if only they made it so that a sword attack is a sword attack, and a bite is an ability (you approach and bite :smile24:), the sword deals more damage, and the bite is a way to recover :smile08:

or you could do without the sword altogether, but only with the bite, in the 4th game, the best 3rd-level unit was thanks to this ability.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

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Повелитель Блэк

15 years ago

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But the conclusion is one:
Mages are treacherous traitors, godless and generally despicable.
Necromancers are rejected geniuses, guarding the world from the messengers of Urgash, and ready to do anything to save the world.

But still, those who played Heroes 5: The King's Throne, remember what Markel and Zehir were striving for!

markal

15 years ago

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These are exceptions.

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Победитель

15 years ago

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But still, those who played Heroes 5: Throne of the King, remember what Markal and Zehir strived for!

What does "Throne of the King" have to do with it? Zehir and Markal are heroes from the original HoMM5 campaigns. And Markal, in fact, is an exception. He didn't worship Ascha as much and acted only for personal gain.

markal

More precisely, the Ascha that the Necromancer worships is the dragon of balance.
And the spider is associated with balance because it weaves its web carefully and makes sure that all sides are equal, as if balanced. No side outweighs the other, and the Necromancer also tries to maintain the balance between good and evil,
to make sure that nothing outweighs the other.

This is the true goal of the Necromancer. Although, in my opinion, Necropolis is still an evil race. And, please, in the Russian version, the goddess is called "Ascha"!

=Feel999=

or can it be without a sword at all, but only with a life drain ability, in the 4th game, the best fighter of level 3 was thanks to this ability

No, it still looks better with a sword :). Although, life regeneration doesn't look that realistic. In any case, the animations in the "fifth" game are the best.

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

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=Feel999=

15 years ago

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Winner

No, it still looks better with a sword :). Although, the life regeneration animation doesn't look as realistic. In any case, the best animations were made in "Heroes of Might and Magic V".

Not me, because the sword isn't the vampire's main advantage; you could just as easily call a person a skeleton (until then...).

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

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Rift

15 years ago

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I'm not very interested in all the trivial details about the appearance and names; the developers will do as they see fit, and they are unlikely to listen to our opinions. We will only be able to evaluate the result later.
Personally, I would like to see a kind of overall dark, nightmarish, graveyard-like, and ominous image for this faction (as has been the tradition), raspy voices, hoarse dialogues, a mournful musical atmosphere à la the third game, and cobwebs instead of curtains – that would be secondary.
There should definitely be a lot of necromancy, a whole lot of necromancy! I can't quite imagine them without all sorts of resurrections and raising of the dead, and it would also be logical – games with death.
And, since this is a new installment in the Heroes series, you could also add a new feature, like the antimorality that was discussed on the Nival forum, or something similar.
Everything else is not very interesting at the moment. I will try it out when it's released (at most, a couple of months).

Повелитель Блэк

15 years ago

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As you know, I believe that Necromancers are one of the oldest types of evil, trying to destroy all living things! "Life is change, chaos, depravity, and suffering. Death is peace, order, and endless beauty."

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Победитель

15 years ago

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As you know, I believe that Necromancers are one of the oldest types of evil, trying to destroy all living things! "Life is change, chaos, debauchery, and suffering. Death is peace, order, and endless beauty."

I understand this as a call for the undead to die and join them: it shows life from their perspective. Although they sometimes try to destroy the living as well.

Rift, undead rising from enemy soldiers will now happen right during the battle - wouldn't that be a new feature?