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Ridmi knocked on my ICQ and, without even agreeing on anything, ran away. (By the way, I was given 4 different ICQ numbers: Ridmi - 633720188, 610127669, 603060925, 611696589, which he revealed to the Heroes players. This says something, doesn't it?)
But as I understand it, there will be many questions about the rules and regulations if he agrees (and, most importantly, starts) to play.

But the main thing is, I doubt Ridmi's honesty and whether he can keep his word. It turned out that Ridmi is just one of the players who is hiding his previous nickname from everyone except the admins (and he asks them to keep quiet).

Therefore, I suggest choosing a judge from those we both trust, and who will resolve any controversial issues.
I can suggest:
Dust, Forrest, PReDS, bayazet, Wic, SAG, Mee, StickyFingaz

This is by no means a complete list; if the candidates are not suitable, suggest your own. We will find a compromise. I can play as early as tomorrow, from 12:00 Moscow time. We need to discuss the rest.
How will he be... cheating if there's a replay???
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Ridmi messaged me on ICQ and, before we could even agree on anything, he left. (By the way, I was given four different ICQ numbers for Ridmi – 633720188, 610127669, 603060925, 611696589 – which he revealed to the Heroes players. This says something, doesn't it?)
But, as I understand it, there will be many questions about the rules and regulations if he does agree (and, most importantly, starts) playing.

But the main thing is, I doubt Ridmi's honesty and whether he can keep his word. It turns out that Ridmi is just one of the players who is hiding his previous nickname from everyone except the admins (and he asks them to keep quiet).

Therefore, I suggest we choose a judge from among those we both trust, someone who can resolve any disputes.
I can suggest:
Dust, Forrest, PReDS, bayazet, Wic, SAG, Mee, StickyFingaz

This is not a complete list; if these candidates don't suit you, suggest your own. We'll find a compromise. I can play as early as tomorrow, from 12:00 PM Moscow time. We need to discuss the rest.


(censored) Am I supposed to sit by the computer, basking in the sun, and wait for you to talk? I explained that I'm in a hurry and don't have much time. (censored)
My previous ICQ accounts were hacked.
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Van
How will he even play if there's lag?

Ivan, do you really think that fixing lag will solve the cheating problem in Heroes of Might and Magic? All connected cables don't transmit data.

P.S.: Playing through a webcam might help!!! with sound!!!
P.P.S.: This statement is not directed at anyone in particular - it's just a statement of facts:mad:
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My main complaint about Readme is his empty words:
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Standard scenario for Might and Magic 6: on the first week, there are about 50 demons.

and this:
readme
How many times have I tried to kill demons on the first week, there are always about 50 of them by day 117.
I have said more than once that Readme will not be able to kill 50 demons on the first week, especially on 8mm. When asked what percentage this is (at least approximately), the standard is that he will kill 50 demons on 8mm, but there was no answer. My opponent believes that he proved his words with a single-player save on CM. We agreed on a game, but my opponent backed out (I think that's what happened) and immediately warned that the probability of him killing demons on the first week is 70%, and that he will have 50 demons is also unlikely (he explained that he will monitor the pace, play to win, etc. My opinion is that if he gets lucky, he will kill them, if not, he will have an excuse). We agreed on a judge - this is Vik. I hope Yura doesn't mind. We agreed on the time: Sunday, 10/24 at 12:00 Moscow time. We will play with streams - it is mandatory. No experience/tax/bank, but with classes. The game is up to 2 wins. I will play red in the first game, and I will choose the Castle. I haven't decided yet. Template - 8mm6a. Samurai (19:48:52 16/10/2010) 1) we pass through the passages between respawns without fighting. Samurai (19:48:53 16/10/2010) ok? Samurai (19:49:24 16/10/2010) 2) with the help of wings, DD or fly, it is allowed to visit objects without defeating the guards. Samurai (19:49:25 16/10/2010) ok? readme1 (19:58:44 16/10/2010) yes, of course, these are the standard rules of Might and Magic 6a. The standard rules are different for each resource, so I ask Vik to agree on these points with the opponent once again. As I understand it, the word "standard" has its own meaning for my opponent, which only he understands. I also ask Yura to develop a possible regulation and rules (taking into account the above), so that there is something to rely on.
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Why can’t fullscreen mode be considered a good protection against cheating (especially if you play without saving)? Apparently, without sophisticated maphacking techniques, any attempt at unfair play is doomed to fail. Unless you watch someone else’s stream, of course. :( :(
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Samurai
My main complaint about Readme is his empty words:

and this:

I've said many times that Readme won't make 50 units in 5 out of 10 live games on the first week, and specifically on 8mm. When asked what that amounts to in percentage terms (even roughly) — the standard for him cutting 50 demons on 8mm live — there was never an answer. My opponent believes that with his single-player save on SM he proved his point.

We agreed to a game, but my opponent got cold feet (I believe that's the case) and immediately warned that the probability of him cutting demons on the first week is 70%, and that he'd have 50 goats is also unlikely (he explained he'd monitor the tempo, play for the win, etc. In my opinion — if the draw is sweet, he'll cut; if not, the straw is laid out).

We agreed on a judge — that's Vic. I hope Yura doesn't mind.
We agreed on a time: Sunday, 24.10 at 12-00 MSK.
We play with streams — mandatory.
No experience/tax/bank, but with classes.
Best of 3. First game I play as red, map choice is mine. Haven't decided yet ).
Template — 8mm6a.

Samurai (19:48:52 16/10/2010)
1) shifted passages between spawns are passed without breaking through

Samurai (19:48:53 16/10/2010)
ok?

Samurai (19:49:24 16/10/2010)
2) using wings, Dimension Door, or fly, it is allowed to visit objects without clearing the guard

Samurai (19:49:25 16/10/2010)
ok?

readme1 (19:58:44 16/10/2010)
yes yes, of course, standard mm6a rules

Each resource has its own standard rules, so I ask Vic to double-check these points with the opponent again. As I understood it, the word "standard" has its own, only-him-understood meaning for my opponent. I also ask Yura to develop a possible set of regulations and rules (taking into account what's described above) so there is something to rely on.

Listen, I can also copy here how you hesitated for 40 minutes like a virgin, whether to play or not, and I have a clear suspicion as to your reasons for this, but I won't voice them, otherwise you'll feel ashamed and refuse to play for the second time altogether.
I certainly understand you have high self-esteem, but believe me, it breaks and very quickly, the main thing is don't fall into depression afterwards.
As for the standard rules for mm6 — I wrote in ICQ that they're the HWorld ones, but for some reason you didn't include that here. The question is — why?
Is it really so hard to go into the templates thread and read the rules?
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So, ladies and gentlemen, the pre-match conference between the two fighters is over. Stock up on beer, chips, and lollipops, because we're in for a fascinating spectacle. The reigning champion, according to VT and his own personal "Everything and Anything" ranking, the machine-like, undefeated Samuraaay, and the challenger who threw down the gauntlet, the "dark horse." Rumors are circulating that he's an ancient kung fu master who retired but decided to punish the arrogant Samurai for his sharp tongue, Riidmii, and so, everyone, the show will start soon.
A request to the organizers: please indicate the exact time and the broadcast code.
Those in the know, please make predictions; I'm ready to take bets.
P.S. All of this was written under the impression of yesterday's boxing match :D
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Samurai (19:49:24 16/10/2010)
2) Using wings, Dimension Door, or Fly is allowed to visit locations without triggering guards.
Since when has this been standard? So, hit-and-run will be allowed soon too...
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Why can't a full-screen transmission be considered a good defense against cheating (especially if playing without saving)? Apparently, without sophisticated maphacking techniques, any attempt at unfair play is doomed to fail. Unless you watch someone else's stream.:( :(


Let's say a Player has 2 Computers.
If possible, access the 2nd Computer from the 1st Computer, where the game is running and Mikogo is being streamed, take the saves from there, download them to the 1st Computer, and view them, and do this every turn.
If the situation I described is theoretically possible, and it seems possible to me, then even a full-screen transmission won't help (even if it continuously shows only the Game Window).

Also, I believe it's not necessary for the Player to have 2 Computers. You can give a friend (even in another country) permissions (as far as I remember, asm wrote about this in the Looser's exposé thread) so that he can access the Computer from which the transmission is being made and take the save, and then tell the Player what's there.
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Let's get ready to Rumble! Samurai - Readme 1.22 - 4.3 Will they play a match - Yes/No 2.75 - 1.45 Because: they will fight/other reason 1.1 - 6.5
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Didn't I write about that? I meant watching someone else's stream. Although, it might be password-protected. If we're talking about doing this from a stream on your own computer, then again, it's impossible to do it in a way that it wouldn't be noticeable on the monitor. Maybe I'm just not understanding something.:)

In other words, does Mikoga allow you to get any information from the computer other than just the screenshot? I couldn't find a way to do that.
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Pasha explained everything correctly. If you have two computers connected via a local network, it's enough to share the folder with the Heroes save files and calmly observe the situation on the second computer during the opponent's turn; this is not visible at all in the broadcast. The only way to avoid the possibility of cheating is to play from a remote server, where the game itself is located outside the players' computers, and they simply have no way to obtain any information (the saves and the generated map are stored on the server, and access to it can be easily restricted).
http://www.twitch.tv/mikevalentine/
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Since when is this part of the standard? Next we'll be allowing hit-and-run soon...
That's exactly the point.
First, the opponent wrote that his standard was the HeroesWorld rules. Then when I proposed these points, he said yes, yes, standard rules. He included this point because it is the standard for the rp-4 rules. And I suspected that there is no such thing in the HeroesWorld rules. I want to play by rp-4. I told the opponent about this, but everyone can see his attentiveness, or rather, he just stubbornly stuck to his position like a brute.
I really have no desire at all to play with Ridmi: playing with him is simply uninteresting to me, especially since I prefer to play with experience/tax/bank. I'll repeat myself for the hundredth time: his empty talk about the standard of 50 demons in the first week on 8mm—that is what I want to refute. And I didn't want to play anymore yesterday, as soon as I heard that Ridmi was backing down: he started saying that he probably wouldn't cut 50, that he might not cut them in the first week, etc. And in the end I agreed to play for only one reason: because judging by the way Ridmi answered Term, he is simply afraid to play, and therefore it is unlikely that I will be able to call him to account. He obviously considers me weak, and that's the only reason he immediately challenged me (even though I didn't offer to play with him).
It is precisely because it is difficult for the opponent to look into the RP-4 thread and read the rules that I asked Vic to write them down, since, as you can see, it is hard to reach an agreement here.
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Oelm
Didn't I write about this? I meant watching someone else's stream. Although it might be password-protected. If we're talking about doing this from your own computer's stream, it's still impossible to do it in a way that it wouldn't be noticeable on the monitor. Maybe I'm just not understanding something.

In other words, does Mikoga allow you to get any information from the computer other than just the screenshot? I couldn't find a way to do that.


Actually, I was talking about viewing the map while Mikoga is running with a continuous game screen.
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Лето 2010.
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I'm willing to bet $5-10 on Redmi, with Satyr as the champion, payment via PokerStars or WebMoney – anyone up for it?

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