Mafia 20. Radioactive Dreams. — Mafia

Registered: 7/29/2006

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#478 9/29/2010 11:07 PM UTC

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Yes, Vervolk is under suspicion. I'm still not sure. Because Hermit is also raising concerns. The first newspaper did mention an apocalypse...
I'm thinking about it.

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Registered: 7/12/2010

Posts: 275

#479 9/30/2010 12:47 AM UTC

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Hello everyone!
At the end of yesterday, I didn't have internet access due to technical issues. Therefore, I will only answer one question from yesterday now.

MedjersoN_HP

Now, an epic post will be...
If the clues for Phoenix and Neira seem good to you, and if you suspect Hermit, then why are you voting this way? (again... Koteiko was killed by a machine gun - Sunny has a machine gun in his avatar - Sunny is the killer - brilliant!)

Because I liked the clue for Sunny more than the one for Neira. And the clue for Phoenix was planted.
I don't understand how you can execute someone based on a planted clue! It is planted precisely to mislead us.

I will write about today's events a little later. I need to check and think about something.

Added 37 minutes ago
My thoughts on the game.

Arandor is either anti-five or Death.
I think it is not advisable to vote against him now. It is better to eliminate some mafia member based on the clues.

Now I will express my opinion on the results of this night.
Only 2 murders were committed, and there is no sign of an attempted murder.
At first, I thought that 13 was dead, but then I dismissed this idea. Because if he is dead, then who is he among the killed? Therefore, I tend to think that he is alive.
A natural question arises: why wasn't there a 3rd murder? The answer: because the murderer was blocked.
And who was blocked?
I think Azi was blocked :)

So, at the moment, I suspect: Neira, Azi, Dariel.

Dariel - because he didn't auto-kill, according to the rule, he is inactive during the day and night. This makes me think that he is in some team, and his teammates sent him to night defense.

P.S. I'm going to analyze the clues.

Added 36 minutes ago
I think Sunny was killed by the Smokers. Sunny himself was an observer.
The action of the Smokers was blocked.
13 killed Plesen. I think Plesen was a guard.

Added 11 minutes ago
Just in case, I will explain why I think so.

In none of the murders was there any smoke or even a hint of smoke. This means that the Smokers probably did not commit the murder.

"Sunny's door was open. There were signs of a struggle throughout the apartment."
If there were signs of a struggle, it means there was a struggle between two "strong" opponents who can kill.
"the body was covered with the owner's cloak"
The observer has a cloak.
"black gloves of Sunny were nailed to the front door!"
Probably, the observer also has gloves. At least, this conclusion suggests itself if you look at the picture of the observer.

now about the murder of Ple-Sen.
"...I know you are all-powerful, you can do anything. But you are bored!! You want to take a risk and find the main murderer of Chetzar, then come to the port..."
The main murderer of the city is, in my opinion, 13.
Since Plesen is all-powerful and also wants to find the main murderer of the city, it suggests that he was a guard.

regarding the left notes: I don't believe any of the notes!

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Registered: 3/15/2008

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#480 9/30/2010 1:15 AM UTC

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Because I liked the clue about Sunny more than the one about Neyra. And the clue about Phoenix was planted.
I don't understand how you can execute someone based on planted evidence! It's planted precisely to lead us down the wrong path.

Guys, are you tired of living? :smile51:

You're all being incredibly dense. Even I (ME!!) figured out that Sunny was the culprit =[br][/br]

However, the criminal acted quite humanely – the body was covered with the owner's cloak.

And the Observer killed him, in my opinion.

When leaving the apartment, the detectives found a farewell "gift" - black gloves belonging to Sunny were nailed to the front door!

Gloves, to cover up the evidence, so he was an illusionist. Although, they could belong to the Villain. But I'm sure he's the culprit.

Ha! I wasn't wrong to believe in the Crab, I felt that he wasn't the Dungeon Dweller. Besides, would a clown, who is such a fool, really treat the Dungeon Dweller? I don't think so...

Well, as for the 13th... either he was blocked, or he was killed and he is the Mold. Actually, I don't know.

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Registered: 7/12/2010

Posts: 275

#481 9/30/2010 3:00 AM UTC

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Neira Drake

People, are you tired of living? :smile51:
You're all acting like idiots. Even I (I!!) figured out that Teng was wearing a cylinder hat =[br][/br]

I didn't say anything about Teng. I meant that Phoenix was unfairly executed. It was a Mafia play.
Although, I'm not entirely sure that Phoenix was innocent.

I think I've managed to decipher one of the clues. Specifically, the clue left at the scene of Sunny's murder.
Clue:
"and just below, the killer's 'signature' – some incomprehensible sticks and circles."

Now let's look at what Medji's signature is.
And in the last sentence of his signature, it says, "She can count well and knows how to speak in binary code."
And what is binary code? Essentially, it's zeros and ones. Or sticks and circles.
Therefore, I believe that the killer of Sunny is Medji!
The day before, he took advantage of the fact that Plesen thought the planted clue was real. Seeing that two people spoke out against Phoenix, Medjerson seized the moment and orchestrated Phoenix's execution.

MedjersoN_HP

Important point. Until I get clarification from the GM, read everything below with the caveat that "if the clue is not planted."

This point is not just important, it's crucial!!!
Medji, and what clarifications did you receive?
I, for example, received all the clarifications I needed from the rules:

No hints are given for unsuccessful murders, except for those stated by the killer himself.

Medji, when I saw your accusatory post against Phoenix, I was, to put it mildly, shocked. I didn't expect that from you. To execute based on a planted clue, when there are several interpretations of real clues!

Therefore, there is evidence against you + strange behavior (I hope you will explain this behavior and tell us what the GM whispered to you, that is, what clarifications he gave).

Based on all of the above, I vote to execute MedjersoN_HP

Added 6 minutes ago
By the way... Maybe they weren't blocking smokers, but those associated with the number 13 or cylinders.

Added 4 minutes ago
Although, no... It was the 13th who took out Plesen. So they were blocking those associated with cylinders or smokers.

Added 1 hour 26 minutes ago
Regarding the killer of Plesen. I can't figure out this clue yet... I can't understand what Manchester United has to do with it. I don't see any football themes in anyone's profile. If this is a planted clue, then again, who is it aimed at? Perhaps just to confuse us.

If we look for the clue in the text, the following analogies appear, so to speak, thoughts out loud:
"A shot to the heart..." - there is a heart in Pandora's signature.
"the main killer of Chetzar" - if we assume that it meant "the main killer of the city," then WhiteLizard's avatar is against the backdrop of a city.
"catching bait, so to speak, to produce" - Gur's avatar depicts, in my opinion, a hunter who is eager to hunt various game.

Hmm... All of these options are quite far-fetched.

*Went to look further*

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Registered: 3/15/2008

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#482 9/30/2010 3:42 AM UTC

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I didn't say anything about Tenga. I meant that they shouldn't have executed Phoenix. It was a Mafia blunder.
Although, I'm not entirely sure if Phoenix was innocent.

Yes, I meant Sunny, he's the cylinder-illusionist)) but he was Tengai before, and I'm already used to that =\ Revanka, stop changing your nicknames, you're annoying!!)

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Registered: 9/8/2008

Posts: 3,465

#483 9/30/2010 4:23 AM UTC

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Arandor

No, I'm afraid they won't let all of you into the hospital. It's very strict there, and only doctors have access.

Added 28 minutes later
Hmm, but I still think the angel is alive, which means there is hope, and that's very good.
And I would also use resurrection in the clown's place, helping those he wants to stay with, or, conversely, so that there would be those who would be killed first and then executed during the day with evidence.
In general, it's nice that the guard visited on the first night. At least the defenders are starting to improve... maybe the doctors will start changing too.

Arandor! I thought you were a nice guy, but it turns out you're a D&D player!!! :D Guys, can't you see that this message is a clear suggestion for the Clown to come and heal him? What questions can there be? :) I wanted to write it yesterday, but the day ended. Oh, Clown, why are you making us waste another day? Because if you don't heal him, we would have already been looking for another mafia member... Execute Arandor

Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!

Registered: 7/12/2010

Posts: 275

#484 9/30/2010 4:57 AM UTC

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Double Bad Eye (DBE).
Special ability: "Twin's Death." If a DBE is targeted for elimination at night, it will only die the following night. It can be healed by a Doctor, but after that, the DBE will have a 25% chance of being targeted by the Night Watch in subsequent rounds.

In other words, if Arandor is a DBE and is healed by a Doctor, all his future Night Watch attempts will have a 25% chance of success. Therefore, if Arandor is a DBE, he is no longer as "scary" as he was at the beginning of the game.

Hermit, maybe it's better to switch to looking for other Mafia members now?

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Registered: 9/8/2008

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#485 9/30/2010 5:12 AM UTC

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Registration

That is, if Arandor is a DDG (Deadly Doctor of Grief) and was healed by a clown, then all his subsequent ND (Night Doctor) actions will have a 25% chance of success. Therefore, if Arandor is a DDG, he is no longer as "scary" as he was at the beginning of the game.

Hermit, maybe it's better to switch to searching for other mafia members now?

Of course, we need to keep searching, but the situation is already clear here. Unless the situation with the clues becomes clearer and it also becomes clear who else is mafia, we can wait with Arandor, but for now, I am almost 100% sure that Arandor is a DDG and that's it. And since everything is already clear with Arandor, to prevent all the cylinders from being exposed, Arandor will be sent on missions, despite the 25% chance, and who knows, maybe it will work...

Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!

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#486 9/30/2010 5:27 AM UTC

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And since everything is clear with Arandor, Arandor will be sent on missions to deal with the Cylinders so that they don't all get exposed, despite the 25% chance. Who knows, maybe it will work...

Well, that would be quite a gift for the peaceful players :) If the Cylinders only succeed every fourth time with their Night Defense. And while they are shooting in the dark, we will slowly deal with the other Mafia members ;) :D

If the situation with the clues becomes clearer and it also becomes clear who else is Mafia, then we can wait with Arandor.

I suggest paying attention to Neiri (the clue was voiced by Madge on the first day of discussion), Dariel, and Madge (I voiced accusations against them on the previous page).

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#487 9/30/2010 5:55 AM UTC

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I suggest you take a closer look at Neyri (Magic voiced her on the first day of the discussion), Dariel, and Magic (I voiced the accusations against them on the previous page).

I'll definitely kill someone for this! Don't you understand that I'm Neyra! Neyra! And not Neyri, but Neyra! Gee, are you all just messing with me? =[/COLOR]

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Registered: 7/12/2010

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#488 9/30/2010 6:01 AM UTC

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Neira, I apologize. :smile39:

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Registered: 3/3/2006

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#489 9/30/2010 6:55 AM UTC

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Arandor! Could you please point out when I denied that you were protected and blocked that night? If I said you were protected, it doesn't necessarily mean that you were ONLY protected that night. My statement simply means that there was an instance of protection. Other night actions applied to you are irrelevant. Sincerely, Gur

"Пришел, увидел и пропил..."

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Registered: 7/24/2006

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#490 9/30/2010 7:41 AM UTC

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If we assume that Ple-Sen was a guard, then Sunny definitely cannot be a cylinder. Ah, but wait – there's been a mistake. If Ple-Sen attacked the 13th, then that person has a 50% chance to retaliate. And they successfully did so. So, we add the clues – (the brush of the painter S. Dali from the signature and the city view from the avatar), and it turns out that Lizarde strongly resembles the 13th. Personally, I found Registr's reasoning about the signature very logical: the binary code is indeed made up of sticks and circles! – it's Medj's signature. Let's move on. Arandor, in order to deflect suspicion from his clan member, tries to attribute the sticks and circles to me (WHAT NONSENSE!), and immediately Pandora, who has been silently observing the whole time, picks up on this "brilliant" idea. Anyway. I'll go and think some more. Here's another interesting point about the Berber: in the very first newspaper, it was said that Vegtamu was stabbed 10 times. We look at the signature of the Happy Girl: "a good one hits seven times, and a bad one – three..." In total, that's 10.

Registered: 6/30/2008

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#491 9/30/2010 7:44 AM UTC

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A secret admirer is so sweet... holding a bouquet of flowers, but with an axe behind their back :smile11:

In my opinion, binary code is a serious clue, so let's execute Megerson... [no personal offense]. As for Ara, it's more vague; let his fans stitch him up to their liking at night.

Neyri seems to be threatening murder a lot, probably because she didn't get enough playtime at night.

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Registered: 3/5/2007

Posts: 60,124

#492 9/30/2010 8:20 AM UTC

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Can't you see that this message is a clear suggestion to vote for the Jester?

And the Jester actually took pity and showed up, right? Oh, how naive.
Isn't it easier to say that you're trying to undermine me in retaliation because you suspect me?
And you clearly voted to save Medj, because he's under suspicion, and it's better to get votes for him.

I suggest you take a closer look at Neira (the clue was voiced by Medj on the first day of the discussion).

Regi, if Medj is the Mafia, can you really trust his clues? I doubt Neira was involved in the first murder.

Hor goes, "wearing white sandals," to a duel with Seth.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Хор_(бог)
Hor is quite similar to Gur.
Maybe someone will find this interesting.

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But in general, have you found even one piece of evidence against me to justify my execution? Cylinds have killed so many, and it was clearly not the Sorcerer with Illusion, who appears every other day, nor the Sorcerer who poisons. But I understand that my execution is very beneficial to the Mafia/Maniacs. I would probably vote the same way, because it's easier to execute a person with protection (of any kind) than to kill them

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