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Posts from Discussion about the Britvachka-Valenok party.
Swear words were sent in PM via ICQ; I didn't expect someone could snitch using ICQ logs. Here's what I found from back when I already explained why I was banned on HP:
I started playing HoMM3 online in the summer of 2008 on HP under the nickname bRitvA. At first, due to incomplete knowledge of the rules, I violated them, which led to my ban, namely those were:
1) a red-rush, when I attacked the opponent's (Outlaw) scout hero with my main hero on day 1 of the week, after which I swore at him in response to his cries about a tech loss, and he immediately snitched to the moderator by copying the ICQ log.
2) Passing shifted guards, when after the opponent (LeBron) surrendered, he opened the saves and claimed that I had taken two piles of gold from a neighboring respawn, that he sent the save to the magistrates and would not confirm the defeat.
3) Used meteor shower against an opponent (Alone ekb) when the level 4 mage guild hadn't been built yet.
When I asked the moderator why I was banned, he replied, and I quote: Vigo (12:23:22 18/08/2008) For your attitude towards players, towards the game, towards behavior, for the presence of falsehood in your conversations, for obscene communication with players, and for (I suspect and am almost certain) cheating.
I didn't complain to anyone, because I found a much better forum - HeroesWorld. If we're going to close the topic, let it not be after they've hung labels on me, when everyone asks, have you seen what they write about you on the forum…?
There was also 4) The incident with Captain, after which we removed each other from our contact lists; he has described it many times.
I agree, that's important. But I have information that he was banned for using abusive language towards the moderators, not for cheating. Is that correct? If there was cheating, were his game saves analyzed? Were they preserved? It would be interesting to know. If they don't exist, I agree that you can't give the "Champion of Champions" title to a player just because several other players, even strong and respected ones, intuitively don't trust him.
Oelm, are you reading other people's posts? It seems like both Vigo and I described that story. I even provided links – go read them. The portal clearly states the reason for the ban – if someone uses abusive language, it says so – banned for abusive language. And if they cheat, it says – banned for cheating. Britva was banned for cheating. There are fewer discussions on the portal – there are leading figures, players turn to them – then they ask for the opinion of several other players (usually via email or ICQ), and the "magister" makes a decision. So, to the question – were the saves analyzed, you can now answer it yourself. To the question – were they preserved, ask Lebron, Alone, Favorite, Outlaw, Vigo.
I also posted a screenshot of Britva's computer. Don't you think it's strange that a folder with random maps is open? And this is during a 2v2 game (which is for fun and without saves), which had already been going on for several hours. It would have been possible to view the saves from previous games much earlier.
P.S. Regarding the situation with Keba, as I understand it, Keba first received a temporary power-up, and then went to the corner of the map, while Britva, without receiving a temporary power-up, went to the corner, which is very strange.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
Captain heard the sound, but doesn't know where it came from.
Catch, if you're here, please check who banned me on Heroes of Might and Magic Online, when, and for what reason, with all the details.
And what was so illogical about what Valenok did on turn 227? Dimension Door away, walk upward, and what then?
First, explain your own "papal move" on 147, when you go down into the metro, you can see a Dragon Fly Hive behind a pack of Efreeti and the edge of a Dragon Utopia below, the path continues further — so what does the corner have to do with it? You could have caught Nelka from the lower edge, near the Dragon Utopia — why the corner? What, nothing to justify opening saves or the map? The joke is that the corner could have been totally tiny, where not only a Dragon Utopia wouldn't fit, but even just an Imp spawn, and Nelka could have reached it. But it's completely obvious that Britva knew the size of the corner from opening saves/the map or both, and that Nelka couldn't reach it, and so he checked the Dragon Utopia. That's how he now explains that supposedly you can hide there and catch Nelka without fearing her reach.
By the way, just as a fact. Valenok had a Throne Griffin Conservatory at his respawn that he didn't go into. If he cheated like you, he would have found out what it was and taken it long ago, but he didn't go in there! It could even turn out to be a max one, which would be a bit tough for Tower in the first two weeks. I checked — it's a two. But imo, he should have sacrificed the scout and he'd have found out for sure)))
We see a post from a former "honest" moderator of the same portal, who scammed Gorbik for $1000, if I'm not mistaken, which is why he was banned.
He's lying, saying that he played with me several times. On the computer of which played a Loser who was caught cheating and then received a Champion of Champions title.
Dear players and residents of the Portal!
Unfortunately, during my absence, an "incorrect" player (bRitvA) appeared in our lands. Having listened to the opinions, complaints, and speculations of players who encountered this "player," I decided to intervene. After reviewing the game saves and ICQ logs provided to me and talking with this person, I came to the conclusion that there is no place for such people among us.
Sir Dreamcatcher, please remove all games of the aforementioned enemy from the ranking table! All games played with this "player" should be considered INVALID!
I'm interested in what and when the cheating was, what is the evidence?
What exactly did Valenok do that was illogical on 227 then? Dimension Door to the side, walking up, and so what?
It was written to you in plain language that he opened the save during the break which was on 224! And from that day on, look at how you describe Valenok's logical actions!
Redwhait HPIt was written to you in plain Russian that he opened a save during the break which was at 224! and from that day on, look at how you call Valenok's actions logical! Now then! Where did such a colorful, red maiden come from? You can write nonsense and flood in the threads specifically designated for that; right now, do not deviate, but write only to the point of the question I asked, which you can, if it's not too much trouble, read above in the previous post.
So, it turns out that you see the logic in Britva's action at 147, but you don't see Valenok's logic at 227? Britva himself was the initiator of the break, use your brain, (censored)! Provide facts please, why on earth did you consider this a cheat?
By the way, as for Britva's move at 147. He didn't know what would be there in the basement now; maybe Nelka is already standing by the exit, and his Dimension Door is used, only fly remains and some move points are spent, and here Nelka is intact and with control...(he didn't know). And then bam, he found out as if by a miracle! Dived into the corner, I looked at the moves, Nelka can't reach there at all, but almost reaches the metro. Britva opened the saves and checked this—where she reaches and where she doesn't—and saw the Dragon Utopia in the upper corner, checked it—it turned out to have a tasty sword. To avoid diving down, since there is nothing there, and Nelka still can't reach either the bottom or the top, he chose to "dive" up, ate the Dragon Utopia and the imp-thingy, getting a level-up. Like an accident, does it even matter, bottom or top, just clicked and that's it))) But how did he know exactly where Nelka was if there is no air view? The assumption that she might be at the bottom could be wrong—Nelka could have easily been defeated and that's all. So... draw your conclusions, newbies)))
What don't I understand? I looked at all the saves and came to a conclusion, that's all.
In the game with "Brivy" (assuming this is a username or game nickname), I didn't find anything surprising or outstanding, just a normal player of a normal level. It would be nice to see how he conducts battles for a complete picture.
You asked, and I answered. I don't have any more information. At that time, Vitalik and Vigo were the online-3 masters on the Portal. Lady Ash had already left by then. If you want more detailed information, you need to contact them or ask the players who initiated the "master investigation."
Here's a post from a former "honest" moderator of the same portal, who scammed Gorbik out of $1000, if I'm not mistaken, which is why he was banned.
Well, not exactly Gorbik, and in the end, it was a little less than $1000, although in general, everything is true... But what does this have to do with the question at hand?
On the computer of the "loser" who was caught cheating and then received a "Cheater of the Month" award.
This is also interesting... Can anyone other than Vigo confirm that a player with the nickname "Loser" exists in the real world?
I'm interested in what the cheating was and when it happened, what's the evidence?
Regarding this game, I can say what was strange and what was suspicious. But, after examining the saves, I realized that it's impossible to say with 100% certainty that there was cheating. If your moves up to turn 145 were at a mega-level, then after such a "papal move," I would definitely say: cheater. But here, I can quite possibly assume that it was a stupid, random jump, without much thought about the purpose of this jump. By the way, I haven't looked at your game statistics. If your number of wins significantly exceeds the number of losses, then the scales with the inscription "cheater" will be much heavier, unless you're just padding your rating against such noobs as me. As for the dark past... Well, what happened is in the past. We need to focus on what's happening here and now.
On the topic: The meaning of move 147 by Britva is basically revealed: to avoid encountering a group of angels and a level 3 cloak, and losing all of Nelka's treasures. Gurni jumped out and dove into the upper corner (the lower corner is empty) towards the delicious Utopia, describing this as some kind of move where he supposedly intended to catch Nelka (I observed the battle 147 there, and Nelka leaves without a chance, Gurni wins). So, Britva opened the save, moved out of the way to the corner near Utopia, knowing that he wouldn't win, but that there was something tasty in Utopia. If Britva hadn't cheated, he wouldn't have known how powerful Nelka is and that she has a level 3 cloak... and that she can even compete with Gurni there. He wouldn't have run to the corner where Nelka couldn't reach. Put yourself in his place and think about it, esteemed AK!!! In my opinion, the person has been caught.
Regarding the topic: The meaning of Razor's move 147 is basically revealed—to avoid running into a lot of angels, a level 3 cloak, and all of Nelka's power, Gurni jumped out and dove into the upper corner (the lower one is empty) toward a tasty Dragon Utopia, describing it as some kind of move as if he were actually planning to catch Nelka (I simulated battle 147 there; Nelka absolutely destroys Gurni without a chance), so Razor loaded his save once and got out of the way into the corner toward the Dragon Utopia knowing he wouldn't win, but that there was something tasty in the Dragon Utopia. If Razor hadn't cheated, he wouldn't have known what Nelka's total power was or that she had a level 3 cloak... and whether she could even reach Gurni over there. He wouldn't have bolted into the corner where Nelka can't reach him. Put yourselves in his shoes and think about it, esteemed AK!!! In my opinion, the person got caught.
Specifically for readme, I will repeat this to exclude any speculation regarding my ideas
1. Assessment of forces: parameters showed a slight advantage for Nella, combat magic was present; I lost in terms of power, but thought it was insignificant since I had won by one turn earlier. If necessary, a trade-off or buyout + chains were available, a chance to trap them.
2. I jump over the rocks into Inferno land. I see the entrance to the underground and the road to the Infernal secondary town. According to the pattern, there is treasure zone in the underground—I go down and see no one.
3. The road led to the secondary town, and the roadside objects were probably cleared + in case of failure it's a trap; I decide to go up so that they can't reach me, and then depending on the opponent's movements, choose the next route. A previously untaken Dragon Utopia luckily appears, which turned out to be a level 2 one. If I had headed down, I would have also found a Dragon Utopia, as there were 5 of them in this treasure zone.
I was reading the HeroesWorld forum in my spare time, and I was simply stunned! How much of a noob I was back in the day, how much stuff I had read in my time... But now it's just disgusting, by God! You remind me of a wolf pack, where one wrong move — and that's it! Why are you so stressed about cheaters? When I played on HeroesWorld, I suspected at least 10% of players of cheating, but I even kind of liked it (purely for self-satisfaction, because if I win, I prove first and foremost to myself that "it's all about the truth, brother (c)" If you don't like the body, don't play with it)" How I fondly remember those days when Sanal (Dekontaminator) and I drank virtually, all while running for a bottle on someone else's turn, and the heroes were simply left hanging... Then we'd keep playing without the slightest grievance toward each other. Games lasted 15 hours of non-stop play, deep into the night... I remember similar games with vbn — it was such a blast. Everyone was roughly equal in skill, playing for fun. But that's all poetry. Now I read the forum sometimes, and I feel like throwing up, sorry for being blunt! So Razor cheated, well, nobody will play with him after this. Fine, I was young myself once and demanded justice, but this crap that everyone spews at each other alongside the discussion... Well damn, it's so disgusting it's just insane. I'll say right away that I won't respond to provocations, I just expressed my opinion from the sidelines! Hi everyone
Well, Britva cheated, and now no one will play with him. Okay, I was young once too and demanded justice, but this is just garbage that everyone throws at each other while discussing...
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