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Guys, thanks, that was funny :D But I'm moving this to the discussion forum.

Tyoma, calm down.
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SpiriTT
So, everyone you haven't met is just... trash, not people?
That's quite an interesting approach...
You've twisted my words somehow... Basically, the idea is this: a person's perception of the external world is the construction of a certain model of that external world in their mind. The more accurate the model, the more potentially effective actions can be. But the more complex the model, the more potentially troublesome it can be to do something with it. For each task, there is a certain optimal level of model complexity. A psychotherapist needs one level of modeling, a salesperson needs another. The main types of deviations from this optimum are: 1) A model that is too simple and does not take into account important nuances. 2) A model that is too complex, with an excess of nuances that are unnecessary or even harmful for solving specific tasks. 3) Attributing non-existent factors (the worst). For modeling a significant portion of forum users (on most forums), the model "talking picture + a few lines of notes" works well. This eliminates points 2 and 3, and point 1 is eliminated by gradually refining the model as you communicate with the person. Attempts to communicate with everyone "as if they were people" (people often use this exact phrase) only lead to a waste of time and the creation of inadequate illusions about the audience.
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Wow, Vic is overdoing it; why do we even need terminology like that??
We are simple folk and not proud (unlike some people)...
And you're wrong about the options...
Showing a side of yourself that others not only fail to understand but also fail to accept only breeds conflicts in future communication...
Let's better go to Trebun and make a humor corner...
Like:
1. Played yesterday, blanked out, wanted to crash in the Dragon Utopia, but tactics don't work there((
2. And how do you take those dwarf-places, I only crawl in there on the 2nd week...
3. What the hell, where did you get archangels on the 2nd week (Jebus Cross)...
4. No, I'm not playing with you)))
5. I thought absolutely nobody played this cool old stuff anymore)))...
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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- Tell me, can you talk to the undead?
- You can. They just don't answer.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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2 Cache - as calm as a snake :) 2 Vic, I probably didn't understand it correctly at first, although the essence was clear right away. I just have a simpler way of communicating on any forum. Why have such models and perceptions? No one is forcing anyone to communicate with everyone "as with people." Even if there is such a perception and division of people - into pictures, pictures with smart/stupid thoughts, pictures behind which a familiar face is hidden, or even a phone number pops up right away, well, those aren't really pictures, why display it like that? But before writing something, shouldn't you read it again and simply run it through your personal ethical filter? Isn't basic ethics and respect important? The phrase about comparing oneself to something written in a manual, as if it were an equivalent, caused a rejection in my mind.
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
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Isn't that a bit too many words for such a simple thought? Or is it supposed to be that way, for the sake of being outrageous? :D
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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It’s just Vicc’s style; that’s how he communicates. Personally, I’ve gotten used to it; it’s even somewhat enjoyable to read simple thoughts expressed in complex, beautiful words.
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
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Loi
Isn't that too many words for such a simple thought? Or is it necessary, for the sake of shocking? :D
Spirit is right – it's a matter of ethics; there should always be respect for the interlocutor a priori.
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
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И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Loi
Isn't that too many words for such a simple thought? Or is it necessary, for the sake of being provocative? :D
Yura tends to overcomplicate things in situations where it's not necessary. It's like finding the area of a square using a double integral when the length of the side is known.
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Dirty_Player
Yura tends to overcomplicate situations that don't require it. It's like finding the area of a square using a double integral when the side length is known.
No, the situation actually required it. Because simple words weren't enough for Spirit to grasp the idea. I had to rephrase it in more detail.

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The phrase about comparing oneself to something written in a manual, as if it were an equivalent, caused a rejection in the brain.
But doesn't a waiter in a restaurant who sees you as just a stomach with a wallet cause you any rejection?

And 90++% of the people around you who have a similarly simplistic view of you?

Or is it just a case of "all talk and no action"?
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Wicc
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Yeah, right... showing off is more important than money...
P.S. Is it okay that I'm being so straightforward? :)
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Wicc
Doesn't a waiter at a restaurant, who sees you as just a stomach with a wallet, bother you?

And 90+% of the people around you who have a similar, simplistic view of you?

Or is it just a case of "all talk, no action"?
1. I haven't worked as a waiter/bartender very long ago, so no, I know about it, if not everything, then almost everything. 2. Where did you get this information? I'm actually a little scared to go outside now, honestly... Mr. Freeman?? o_O
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.
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Dirty_Player
It's like finding the area of a square using a double integral when the length of the side is known.

But isn't it possible only through an integral??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Школа начального мастерства по Вторым Героям.

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Catch
But isn't it possible only through an integral? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Do you want me to write out the solution? :)
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Dirty_Player
So, you want me to write it out? :)
Yep. And with proof that it's actually an area, not just a random number. Let's refresh our memory with a brief course on measure theory.