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At the very beginning of the game, tactics really help to minimize losses, as shown in the example above. However, later on, all of this becomes irrelevant. And unit placement won't help when it comes to leveled-up heroes. It's just an extra occupied slot. In the early stages, I don't rush to get archers in the first week of the game unless there's an urgent need. In the second week and beyond, there are no problems completing a battle without losses.

Sorry, buddy, but you're wrong... Tactics help in all stages of the game in 90% of cases; exceptions are very rare. Okay, if you don't go for archers in the first week, although usually 1-2 archer units should be included in any game from the first week, but let's say it's the beginning of the third week, you're in a treasure and see some Book of the Earth guarded by at least not very strong, but unpleasant Ghost Dragons (or, for example, Archangels, Archdevils, etc.), and your main troops consist of 15-20 ducks, 1-2 angels, and a large number of archers; and if you still say that tactics are useless in this case, then one of us clearly doesn't understand anything about this game:o... This will be especially evident if you attack them without archers and get wiped out, or at least lose half of your army, while your opponent is pressuring and is right there nearby (and will take the treasure) or has already attacked your main base. Or, a classic example: Shakti vs. Kirrh, let's say it's the middle of the second week, Kirrh has a hidden elven camp with about 30 elves, but she proudly refused Tactics and chose some super-useful Wisdom:D, and, for example, she managed to get 1-2 angels during a respawn, and then Shakti comes with 3-4 angels and support troops, the stats are equal, but Kirrh has all her counter-strategy based on elves because she hasn't found anything else yet - guess who will win:rolleyes:, and in the opposite case - both have Tactics, and let's say the elves are on the opposite side of the map from the miner's angels, they close in and can easily win.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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Sorry, buddy, but you're wrong... Tactics help in all stages of the game in 90% of cases; exceptions are very rare. Okay, let's say you don't attack with ranged units in the first week, although usually 1-2 ranged units should be used in any game from the very beginning. But let's say it's the beginning of the third week, you're in a treasure and see some Book of the Earth guarded by at least not very strong, but unpleasant Ghost Dragons (or, for example, Archangels, Archdevils, etc.), and your main troops consist of 15-20 ducks, 1-2 angels, and a large number of ranged units; and if you still say that Tactics are useless in this case, then one of us clearly doesn't understand anything about this game:o... This will be especially obvious if you attack them without ranged units and get wiped out, or at least lose half of your army, while your opponent is pressuring and is right there nearby (and will take the treasure) or has already attacked your main base. Or, a classic example: Shakti vs. Kirr, let's say it's the middle of the second week, Kirr has a hidden elven town with about 30 elves, but she "proudly" refused Tactics and took some super-useful Wisdom:D, and she has, let's say, 1-2 angels on her reserve list. Then Shakti comes with 3-4 angels and supporting units, the stats are equal, but Kirr has all her counter-strategy based on elves because she hasn't found anything else yet - guess who will win:rolleyes:, and in the opposite case - both have Tactics, and let's say the elves are on the opposite side of the map from the miner's angels, they close themselves off and can quite possibly win.


Yeah, I'm wrong.
С истиной где-то рядом...





Лето 2010.
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Dirty_Player
You're all wrong :)
:smile29: :smile29: :smile29: :smile29: :smile38: :smile29: :D
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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in my opinion, Tactics are needed, **in most cases**...
Perhaps, it is incorrect to say that Tactics are **definitely** a more useful (or less useful) skill than others from the golden "set"...
In some cases (for example, when you need to quickly level up a spellcaster while having good buildings nearby, or you are more or less sure that your turn will be first, etc.), Tactics should be abandoned.
In general, all of this probably applies to all skills (the same Logistics, which is recommended before a Fortress battle, is less useful than at the beginning of the game...) - but this applies to Tactics primarily... that is, the usefulness (or uselessness) of Tactics depends (compared to other "useful" skills) on a larger number of external factors (priorities in the near and distant future, who and what you are playing against, the density of ranged units and units that can move across the battlefield in promising directions, where a Fortress battle is expected, etc.)
Something like that...
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Loi
in my opinion, tactics are needed, in most cases.
Undoubtedly, logistics is an essential skill. The others may be useless one way or another. But tactics often play a crucial role in difficult battles.
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After reading all of this, one can draw a firm conclusion: the combat strategy differs for everyone, as do their needs.
I don't use tactics, and I won't. And I've already been convinced more than once that I don't need this skill. You think it's an awesome skill, go ahead and use it.
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After reading all this, one can draw a firm conclusion: the battle strategy is different for everyone, as are their needs.
I don't use tactics and won't. And I've already been convinced more than once that I don't need this skill. You think it's an awesome skill, go ahead and use it =)
Prove your mastery online or offline - play against strong players on equal terms, and then your opinion will be worth something.
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Wlk777
Prove your skills online or offline – play against strong players, and then your opinion will matter.
I'll prove it.
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After reading all this, one can draw a firm conclusion: the combat strategy differs for everyone, as do their needs.
I don't use tactics and won't. And I've already been convinced more than once that I don't need this skill. You think it's an awesome skill, go ahead and use it =)

Dear friend, are you aware that tactics are used to overcome difficult defenses, including inconvenient ones (i.e., usually fast units or archers)?

Moreover, there are only 8 skills in total, and I think there is still room for tactics among them.

And of course, the importance of tactics varies for each castle. I mean, in my opinion, it will definitely never be a hindrance for a Castle, Rampart, or Tower )))


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#134
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Due to poor connection and constant complaints from my opponent about the length of my turn (those who have played with me know how I play, and this time I tried to be faster), I decided not to continue the game with Nepredskazuemiy, which was postponed at his request, as I had already opened the save file. Before that, my opponent had already upgraded his vampires, so my conscience is clear. This was the second game; I easily won the first. Those who wish can assess the skill level of Nepredskazuemiy by looking at the save file (I also played it casually).
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#135
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Not knowing the tournament rules isn't a bad thing. Maybe the person is playing for the first time. What matters more is not how you play the first time, but how you play after a few months. Everyone can express their thoughts on the forums, even if they are incorrect from the point of view of the majority. And you should treat this with complete calm. In offline games, tactics are used much less often.
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Ergon
Not knowing the tournament rules isn't a bad thing. Maybe it's the person's first time playing. What matters more is not how you play the first time, but how you play after a few months. Everyone can express their thoughts on the forums, even if they are incorrect from the point of view of the majority. And you need to treat this quite calmly. In the official game, tactics are used much less often.
Forget it, I don't demand mega-skill from newbies there – drown on the first map, etc. :) But constantly running around as a main hero with unupgraded zombies and having 3 heroes by the 3rd map – that's clear, and it was also evident from the posts.
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