Posts from Discussion about Looser. Auto-translated

Okay... first of all... I seem to be sober, but I don't understand the point:confused:. How can a team be considered a cheating team if no decision has been made regarding cheating for ANY of its players????

Hey guys, don't exaggerate. Keba meant a team that has a cheater, and he explained it. It came out a bit rough, but it's clear that no one enjoys playing with a cheater, it's about emotions.
I can vouch for Romka, he's not Vigo or a loser, I've been talking to him for a long time.
I'll also say about Loser that I played one game with him with a save, but we didn't finish it. I absolutely remember that one of his first moves scared me with its length, but then the moves became normal in terms of time, and I decided that the guy had to go somewhere. We didn't finish because his internet suddenly went down (when I had very long moves on the second turn). Then Loser messaged, but I refused to finish the game.

to Neo:
only the coordinators (3 of them) and the Creator can check IPs, moderators can't. I'll have to ask Los to check a few suspicious people. It's very inconvenient... I'd almost constantly need such permissions for myself...

You should ask Vigo and Looser – are they different people? To clarify, have you met Looser in person?

No, I haven't met Looser in person.
I also haven't met Vigo in person.

In my opinion, they are different people.

I finished a few team tournament matches with a romantic player about 3 or 4 times (the result is no longer relevant because we withdrew from the tournament), but there was no hint of cheating! So it would be more accurate to say not "team," but "individual representatives."

Yes. I also played in tournaments with a competitive romantic player several times. There was never any cheating.

To get a complete picture, I would like to see the save files from the game.

Guys, let's not get things twisted. I've played against Evil Romantic several times, he's a decent player, and I had no reason to suspect anything. Let's be more objective about this issue and focus on the facts.

We're talking about Loser, and that's what we should call him. As for what happened, the team found out just like everyone else, and they're probably just as shocked by Loser's actions.

P.S. There's no need to even mention Pasha Dubrovin.

Hmm... I'm shocked and upset.

Mikogo opens up new horizons for us. :) And closes them for cheaters.

I believe that from now on, broadcasting at least the decisive (semi-final or at least final) tournament matches should be MANDATORY.

And now I'm starting to suspect blatant cheating in every player.... :( This is disappointing...

Regarding the Team Tournament and the team that Loser is a part of – I will wait for the official verdict from the AC, but I think the situation is clear anyway. I understand that all the other players on the team may be honest and fair – but I'm afraid I won't be able to count all the team's previous results.
Therefore, there may be 2 options. The first is radical: the team is disqualified from the tournament. The second is that the team nominates a new player instead of Loser, tries to negotiate with the opponents (if they are willing to cooperate and agree!) to replay all the rounds in which the player Loser has already participated. If the opposing team is not willing to cooperate (and that is their right, and I will not force them) – then in the matches of Loser, your team will be given losses.

I will see how the discussion goes and will announce my final decision by the end of the week.

Just a couple of cents: there are decent players on the team, let them play instead of the loser, and that's it... I think, yes, I'm sure, no one will object.

One and a half kopecks: the team has decent players, let them play matches instead of the loser, and that's it... I think, yes, I'm sure! no one will object!

I completely agree, the team shouldn't suffer because of one player. Of course, it would be better if the loser's matches were replayed by normal players (there are some in the team).

It’s not really my business, as I’m not participating in your tournament. But it seems to me that replaying matches lost by the loser is not the right approach; instead, those who played against the loser should be awarded victories.

"...they stood with their mouths agape, with a spark of righteous fury in their eyes, waiting for the finale. Nothing makes us so honest as someone else's crime." Semyon Altov.

as long as there's a chance to cheat, there will always be those who take advantage of it; that's just how people are)

Added after 54 seconds
I think almost everyone has done it at least once)

Since we're on the topic, I can vouch for the "evil romantic" – I've played with him several times. It seems he's in a time zone 2-3 hours east of Moscow. Also, the team has reliable players on the bench, including those who have played in qualifiers in person, and I don't doubt them either. To call the entire team cheaters because of one or two players?:confused: That's an insult and can't be justified by any emotions. By the way, regarding responsibility for what happens on your computer (using cheats, etc.), it's time to write a corresponding "rule" so that people like Cobra don't use it as an excuse anymore. This is already the second incident, even though the cases are quite different...

What decisions regarding cheating have been made?! People, have you all gone mad?! Do you have no brains of your own? You're all waiting for some decisions from above....
(Satyr, +1 for the passport comment!!!)

The cheater hasn't even come up with a single excuse )))))))

And some other character, under the nickname Vigo, logs in and says: "I'm not me, and that's not my butt. We need to figure everything out!!!"
He should have explained/proven:
- that he and Loser are the same person
- that he or Loser is cheating
- why he taught Loser to cheat if he's his student
- whether they're hiding from each other that they're cheating, or if they're using these methods together
- when they play against each other, they pretend they're not cheating

And some other pathetic, romantic character from the same group. When I showed him the video, he said: "Oh! My! That's something!!!! I disavow them!!!", but now he's saying "There's no decision." Ugh, what a load of garbage.

It’s funny… For the first time, I see a cheater caught with 100% proof (which is almost impossible in Heroes, if you’re trying to prove cheating with words), and here are some excuses, and some people are already starting to justify it…
He got caught – [no swearing, please...] – busted. All recent games – it’s been like that ever since. And he should be banned [no swearing, please...].
Vigo is suspicious. By making logical conclusions, it seems he’s also cheating, he just hasn’t been caught yet.

That’s all.