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In this thread, I propose that we discuss and compare three tier 3 cities: Necropolis, Tower, and Conflux. Which one is the strongest? Reasons for choosing these specific cities: 1. Since Heroes of Might and Magic II, Necromancers and Mages have been enemies, but they share similar characteristics (magic, the city's foundation consists of summoned creatures). 2. Elementals, like Necromancers, are not living beings and lack morality, which connects them as units. 3. Conflux and Tower are the most "magical" cities in the game; it would be interesting to compare them.
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In the second game, the natural enemies of Necropolis were Sorceresses with Elves and Phoenixes, as well as Knights for certain reasons. I think that the strongest in this trio are the Elementals. They have three arguments: in the first stage - upgraded fairies, then - storm elementals, and in the final stage - the number of phoenixes and the magic university. Mages are very dependent on the map (in particular, the presence of leprechaun gardens and what they give). Necropolis is very strong, that's a fact, but it can fail against Elementals - vampire lords are not that strong, and there are traditional advantages of the Conflux.
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Cons of the Conflux: dependence on a large number of resources, vulnerability to certain magic, weakness of some units (fire elementals and earth elementals)...
In a confrontation, the undead will most likely be in the leading position...
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The downsides of Conflux: dependence on a large number of resources, vulnerability to certain magic, weakness of some units (fire mages and earth elementals)...
In a confrontation, the undead will most likely be in first place...
I agree that Conflux has relatively weak units at levels 4-5, but this is balanced out by the first and last units... Plus, the use of Armageddons :)
And it will be very difficult for necromancers, at least because there are no living creatures in Conflux.
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P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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What about the Mages? After all, Titans are considered the only monster equal in strength to the Black Dragons, and therefore stronger than both Ghost Dragons and Phoenixes. Plus, 3 units of archers, one of which is a high-tier monster and without a penalty in melee combat. Unrelenting Nagas, Djinns with spellcasting, Mages that reduce the cost of spells. All of this gives reason to talk about the strength of the Mages in this triad. I would like to hear arguments in support of one faction or another.
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a strange choice for comparison... I'm betting on Necromancers. I don't even consider Conflux to be a strong Castle. Mages... it's just an okay race, mainly due to their ranged units. But it all depends on the map size. On small maps, Mages will be the strongest.
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Conflux is a very strong castle. Much of its strength comes from its magic and resistances. Plus, it has very fast phoenixes. And on small maps, mages and elementals won't have enough resources, and it will be difficult for them to deal with the Necropolis and its skeletons. Although the Necropolis loses the vampire bonus and partially the dragon bonus (there's no one to lower morale).
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What about mages? After all, titans are considered the only monster equal in strength to the Black Dragons, and therefore stronger than both spectral dragons and phoenixes.
Titans are stronger than phoenixes in a 1v1 fight, but if you compare their weekly growth, I wouldn't envy the titans...
And in a duel between a Necromancer and a Tower, it really depends on the size of the map and the availability of resources.
Necromancers get dragons much earlier than Towers get titans.
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P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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Let's not forget that Armageddon doesn't always appear for the Elves! But raising the dead and Death Wave occur in 90% of cases for the Necropolis! And morale decreases for the Fae and, I think, for Phoenixes!
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What about the Nagas? Their relentless attacks are a good advantage. Just like the magical elementals, but these also attack all surrounding units. And magic doesn't affect them. In tough battles, it's the magical elementals that survive; they are very effective against crowds.
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Let's not forget that Armageddon doesn't always appear for the Elves! But raising the dead and wave of death happen in 90% of cases for the Necropolis!
Wave of death isn't such a powerful spell that can shift the balance in favor of the Necropolis.
And Armageddon... well, it depends on luck, but if there are more than one castle, etc., the chances increase significantly.
Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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Magic resistance is a controversial bonus! You can’t buff or resurrect them… And they aren’t strong on their own! They get taken down quickly!
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Magic resistance is a debatable bonus!
And the fact that they attack everyone around them without any restrictions – is that also a debatable bonus? :);):D
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P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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Wave of Death is indeed not the most powerful spell. But what about the ability to 100% obtain any magic you need at the magic university? That is, the ability to get expert resurrection, slow, or haste? Conflux surpasses everything in this regard.
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The Wave of Death is indeed not the most powerful spell. But what about the ability to 100% obtain any magic you need at the magic university? I mean, the ability to get expert resurrection, slow, or haste? In this regard, Conflux beats everyone else.
Wow, dear... that's already the Holy Grail...
Personally, I think that the Conflux is a huge cheat...
That's why I didn't mention it as a plus...
Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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