Best mapmaker of 2009 (Voting) — Mapmaking Contests — Page 3

Registered: 9/10/2008

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#31 12/11/2009 9:27 AM UTC

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Froska

What are you talking about with these deadlines? Prove later that the map was made in a month, and not a year ago... I think it's easier to post your best, but only 1 map from each author for this nomination, regardless of the year of release.
Pros:
1) The quality of the maps will be better! Why do we need a bunch of unfinished drafts?
2) There will be more maps!
3) More people will know about the map. Consequently, there will be more votes.
Cons:
1) There will be few new maps
2) The spirit of competition will be completely different.
3) The meaning of the competition changes.

Judging by the conclusions, everything can be solved in different ways.
But the main drawback of this type of competition is the low quality of the maps!

But I'm not imposing...

I can't agree with you. How about just one map? We have only a couple of mapmakers. I'm sure that those few mapmakers have more than one work that deserves attention. And deadlines are necessary, precisely to attract new mapmakers or those who have not submitted their maps for review before! Deadlines are generally needed for a clear organization of the competition!

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Tieru

I think it would be better to have participants send their maps to the organizer, and he would post them all on the same day.
It would also be nice to make the voting anonymous, that is, forum users will vote for the maps, and not for the people who made them. This was done when the best artist competition was held; it makes it possible to exclude such logic from voters as: "this person has good maps, I will vote for him." Although I doubt that anyone will do this, but still.

Excellent ideas regarding sending to a moderator (who is not participating in the competition) and regarding voting for maps!

There is still a lot to discuss! I am currently considering further plans and looking for volunteers to help organize the competition (in particular, to promote it through various Heroes forums and chats in different countries, to encourage participation in our competition, and also for those who will monitor for map plagiarism). I ask you to also enlist a couple of reliable comrades!

FOR DISCUSSION WITH TIERU:
What do you think about the evaluation? My suggestion is that both forum users and a commission of moderators who are not participating in the competition should do it! The nominations should include: grand prix, first place, second and third (second and third - if there are enough participants), where first place will be based on the results of forum user voting, and the grand prix will be based on the results of moderator evaluation?

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FOR Lux in tenebris

Thank you for your answers and the suggestion regarding moderation; I will think about it!

Question: Is it possible (as Tieru suggests) to collect the maps of the competition participants from a moderator, and then, within the specified time, put them up for evaluation?

I will hope for your support! And it will be useful!

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Registered: 12/30/2007

Posts: 527

#32 12/11/2009 10:58 AM UTC

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Tieru, but not me). My connection is through a mobile phone...
Friends, take the lead, in general. I will always help you.
I will participate in the contest, but I don't have time for organization right now.
Mish-gan, here are 5 moderators in section 5:
Lux in tenebris, SteN, WisTrit, LotR, _Prizrak_

Mish-gan, did you write a letter?) Regarding moderation.
Personally, I can see that you have a real knack for this; you're good at it! Well done!
Create a team. Advertise. Attract people. I will help everyone, as much as I can.
Ah, well... everyone is doing a good job, guys. There's no spam. Only good stuff.
P.S. The map is 95% ready)).
Maybe I should save it for the contest... What do you advise? Or should I release it, and then it can participate later? Because I've been working on this map for a very long time, and I'm still not sure how long I'll be testing it.

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#33 12/11/2009 10:58 AM UTC

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Mish-gan

A PROPER DISCUSSION FOR THE TIER:
What do you think about the evaluation process? My suggestion is that both forum members and a commission of moderators who are not participating in the contest should do it! In the nominations, we could have: grand prize, first place, second, and third (second and third - if there are enough participants), where first place is determined by the results of the forum members' vote, and the grand prize is determined by the results of the moderators' evaluation?

I didn't quite understand, should we make it so that moderators evaluate those who took 2nd and 3rd place and decide who is 2nd and who is 3rd?

Lux in tenebris

Tieru, but not me) My connection is through a mobile phone...

I would gladly take on the organization, but I also want to participate myself.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#34 12/11/2009 11:14 AM UTC

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Lux in tenebris

Tieru, but not to me) My connection is through a mobile phone...
Friends, take the lead, in general. I will always help you.
I will participate in the contest), but I don't have time for organization right now.
Mish-gan, here's the section with 5 moderators:
Lux in tenebris, SteN, WisTrit, LotR, _Prizrak_

Mish-gan, did you write a letter?) About moderation.
Personally, I can see that you have a knack for this, you're good at it. Well done!
Create a team. Advertising. Attracting people. I will help everyone, as much as I can.
Ah, well... everyone is doing great, guys. No spam. Only good stuff.
P/S The map is 95% ready))
Maybe I should save it for the contest... What do you advise? Or should I release it, and then it will participate later. Because I've been working on this map for a very, very long time, and I still don't know how long I'll be testing it.

I didn't write a letter, I barely understand what moderation is and what powers it has!

I think it's better to save the map, because it will be a completely new contest, so there will be new maps! And you will have more time for testing! And what kind of map is it, multiplayer or single-player?

Since you are going to participate, you are out! I will write to the other moderators, if they refuse, then Tieru and I will be the judges ;) , if Tieru doesn't mind, but I think it should be the moderators, there will be more trust in them!

But I will still count on your help!

QUESTION for Lux in tenebris: how to create a topic with an announcement about the contest, so that it is important - I don't have such a function!?
I want to post the announcement with the contest rules earlier (when registration starts, deadlines and requirements for maps).

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Tieru

I didn't quite understand, should the moderators evaluate those who took 2nd and 3rd place and decide who is 2nd and who is 3rd?

I would gladly take on the organization, but I just want to participate myself))

The forum members determine: 1st, 2nd and 3rd places
The commission of moderators determines: grand prize

I understand that you are withdrawing, that's a pity.

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Registered: 12/20/2007

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#35 12/11/2009 4:21 PM UTC

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I would love to both organize and participate, but I'd rather participate ;). Here are the rules for moderators, by the way: http://forum.heroesworld.ru/faq.php?faq=hw_help#faq_hw_help_moderators_rules

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

По вопросам модерации: [email protected]

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Registered: 12/30/2007

Posts: 527

#36 12/11/2009 7:54 PM UTC

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Mish-gan, okay, I understand.
Here's what we'll do. You create the topic, write me a private message or tell me here. Which one should be marked as important. I'll take care of it.
If you do it in the next few days, let me know the title here.
Mish-gan, I'll have a multiplayer game, 2 VS 6, size XXXL.
The map currently weighs 1024 KB. I'm working on the scripts.
I think I've done everything. I'll see everything in the game. Where to turn the mine... Where else... So, I'm a participant. You can judge me harshly.
Tieru, participate, it's great!
I wish more people would join...

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#37 12/12/2009 7:06 AM UTC

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Lux in tenebris

Mish-gan, okay, I understand)
You know what we'll do. You create the topic, write to me in PM or tell me here. Which one to mark as important. I will do it.
If you do it in the next few days, then tell me the title here)
Mish-gan, I will have a multi 2 VS 6, size XXXL
The map currently weighs 1024 KB. I'm working on scripts.
I think I've done everything. I'll see everything in the game. Where to turn the mine... Where else to change something... So, I'm a participant. You will judge me strictly.
Tieru, participate, it's great)!
I wish there were more people to encourage to participate...

Agreed, I'll let you know when I create the topic.

The map is large and there are many participants:eek: but that's even better!
Are you suggesting that I be a judge?

Lux in tenebris Let's discuss, and if I collect the maps from the participants through my email, and then you help me on the right day to place them all at once on the site?
And also, Lux in tenebris, think about how to motivate participants to participate in the competition! I will need to announce this!

P.S.: I want to thank you, I really like your map "Great Battle", it made me regain interest in this wonderful game, which I lost half a year ago! The idea is good, I hope you create something similar in the same principle and essence! Well, maybe make the map larger and richer!

I would also like a couple more competent, responsible people, then there will be more chances to successfully implement the plan and attract more participants to the competition!

THOSE WHO WISH, PLEASE RESPOND

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Tieru

I'm sorry myself, I want to organize and participate, but I want to participate more ;). Here are the rules for moderators http://forum.heroesworld.ru/faq.php?faq=hw_help#faq_hw_help_moderators_rules

Thank you, I read the link - it doesn't seem too complicated!

I understand you perfectly, if I knew how to do Mapmaking, I would participate myself! To be honest, I like playing on created maps more!

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#38 12/12/2009 10:21 AM UTC

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Mish-gan, regarding the email, it's okay. I'm using a mobile connection, so you know how it is with uploading maps.
You can give me your email address, and then you can upload from there. That would work too.
There needs to be some motivation. It should be both a commemorative award for the winner and maybe some kind of prize. By the way, I want to provide a prize for the winner of the "Best Map Maker 2009" contest. I just haven't figured out where to submit the application yet.
If you have time, please take a look. I'm only online sporadically for now. I'll have more time later.
Mish-gan, the new map will spark your interest many times over, believe me. And not just yours!
I haven't seen any maps with similar solutions anywhere. It's a strange map.
I'll even tell you the name. )=
Crusader
Crusader.
And here's a little introduction). I'll reveal a little something for you, my friends. =
(XXXL) Crusader.
Crusader
This story took place in the early days of chivalry.
You are a knight of the kingdom of good and light.
You must fulfill your destiny and defeat evil.
The troops are gathered, and you set out on a campaign.
The Phrygian Desert, 1097.

I walked, swaying from side to side, each step echoing in my head and oppressively pulling me to one side. His lips were dry and cracked. The cracks were bleeding. The hot wind scorched his face, and the salty sweat burned his eyes; sometimes, due to the terrible pain, everything blurred, and it seemed as if there was only fog all around. Ahead, the clatter of armor and a dull thud on the sand could be heard again. "One more," a thought flashed through his mind. From all sides, the moans of women could be heard. They were very thirsty. Gradually, the animals they had brought with them began to die.
Only one thing was in his head: he had to keep going. Because this is our calling. God called us. All other thoughts were suppressed. Only to reach Iconium, only to have enough strength. Greek guides were hired to cross the desert. People began to get very nervous and suspect them of betrayal. But for some reason, no extraneous thoughts arose in my head about this. I was completely confident in them. And at the end of the day, on August 15, 1097, we reached Iconium.
It was decided to make a week-long stop. Everyone was very weak, many were near death. Many had a strange rash on their bodies. The oasis seemed like a paradise. Cool water was plentiful. By the end of the week, many recovered. And my strength returned to me. I slept well, I got stronger. Bohemond I, Prince of Antioch, gave the order to move out. The preparations were quick. Closer to noon, Seljuk detachments were spotted. Gradually, the picture became clearer. This was the Seljuks' second attempt to turn us back, specifically into the Taurus Mountains. Everyone was ready for battle. When the Seljuks approached us closely, I drew my sword. I had a bad premonition, but all doubts were dispelled by some inner confidence. It passed through my body like a warm light. I felt light and pleasant. The Seljuks rushed at us with terrible cries. A battle began. The clatter of swords, blood, moans, screams... and so on.
Lux in tenebris. 2009 A.D.

So... soon, very soon, it will be yours, my friends.

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#39 12/13/2009 10:17 AM UTC

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Mish-gan, could you make an exception for me regarding map placement? The map is turning out to be quite unique, with rare and interesting solutions. I really want to try and finish it by the new year and post it on the forum as a New Year's gift! Imagine... A winter evening, December 30th or 31st... You and a friend turn on your computers... You launch Heroes of Might and Magic 5: "Tribes of the East"... And...)) You play and enjoy yourselves! And then, we could even submit it to the contest... Is that possible?

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#40 12/13/2009 10:33 AM UTC

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It would be nice if the winner of the contest created a commemorative badge to be placed under their avatar.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

По вопросам модерации: [email protected]

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#41 12/13/2009 11:31 AM UTC

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Lux in tenebris

Mish-gan, could you make an exception for me regarding the map submission? The map is turning out to be quite unique, with some rare design choices.
I really want to try and finish it before the new year and post it on the forum as a New Year's gift...!
Imagine... a winter evening, December 30th or 31st... You and a friend turn on your computers...
You launch Heroes of Might and Magic 5: "Tribes of the East"... And...))
You play and have fun!
And then, we can submit it to the contest... Is that possible?

Of course :).
You've definitely piqued my interest. I understand, will it be possible to play together with a friend against a large enemy force?
If you want, you can send me the map earlier, like for a beta test, and I'll take a closer look, maybe I'll spot some shortcomings, if there are any. And then I'll give you my opinion privately, not through the forum.
I can even publish an official review of the map later!

QUESTION Lux in tenebris: What if I post my email address to collect submitted maps, and then what? After I have a database, how do I post them on the site? Will my permissions be sufficient?

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Tieru

It would be nice to create a commemorative badge for the contest winner to be displayed under their avatar.

A special commemorative badge, and we can also think about some kind of prize!

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#42 12/13/2009 1:49 PM UTC

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Mish-gan, thank you!) We will do as planned regarding my map. +++ Mish-gan Yes, of course, your permissions are sufficient! You can add 10 archive attachments to one topic. So everything is fine. +++ Tieru, and how could we do without it))! We will definitely find one. Right now, my task is to choose a reward for the winner of 2009. There are many options. Crowns, rings, etc. I think we need a GIF image, 25x25, for example. And I will also choose rewards for the 2nd contest. And you can work on it too. Maybe you can create something even better in Adobe Photoshop. I have already manually created 100 works in Adobe Photoshop CS3. Join us! Create! I will help with this.

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#43 12/13/2009 5:37 PM UTC

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I decided to make a cup for the winner in advance: rolleyes: Two options, although they are not very different.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#44 12/13/2009 5:54 PM UTC

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Tieru, no words needed. You're simply great.
Even +20 to morale wouldn't be enough for you! )
This trophy will go to the next contest.
And do you perhaps have another option... and for the mapmaker 2009 contest? )
I think Ser9K will support this. I want to reward an excellent person with a strong badge of honor.
Otherwise, my works look worse; they are all 25x25 and in GIF format.
I made it for an avatar. And how will the awards be displayed in general?)
In the link next to the nickname or under the avatar?
Let's decide on this question too, right now. ))

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.

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#45 12/13/2009 6:06 PM UTC

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I didn't quite express myself correctly; the cup should be placed under the profile picture, like for those who won tournaments. Regarding how to add it there, I need to ask one of the moderators.

Lux in tenebris

Do you perhaps have an alternative idea? And for Map Editor 2009?

I'll try to do it the day after tomorrow.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

По вопросам модерации: [email protected]

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