Gamerhome vs Heroesworld — Tournament History online

StickyFingaz

16 years ago

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There is a function that prevents players from viewing certain topics. This has already been mentioned before. Yes, it is probably possible to view them if desired. But where is the guarantee that, for example, Alex isn't cheating?

Javdet

16 years ago

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And where are the guarantees that the developers won't stuff the game with their own vision, including things like an in-game chat or Skype integration?

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PReDS

16 years ago

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Javdet

But where is the guarantee that the "friends" won't fill the chat with their own vision of the game, spamming with messages?

With this attitude, there's no point in organizing such matches. And even the best advice from a good player is more likely to distract from the game than to help.

AlexTheGreat

16 years ago

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I lost... The spawn — just a joke. I don't have a single dwelling at all. 1 conservatory for 1 angel. The only decent exit to the center — through the GO, which with such a spawn, even when it's 85gr. of trees, can't be killed any earlier than 131. The second exit to the center through the snow is a week's journey... My main hero became the Dragon bought on 121, the only one who got log. Ran around the enhances. On 127 I'm at the GO. 131 — I buy out everything. Army: 1 angel, 8 Wyverns, 16 gr. basilisks, 1+1+130 gnolls, around 70 gr. lizardmen. 16 gr. flies are still with the scout hero. I kill the Dendroids with a loss of 30 gnolls and 5 basilisks, and there's already Red's scout running around. Right there I take the tree for 6 Wyverns for 60 medusas with a loss of 6 lizardmen and 1 basilisk. Well, then I run to the treasury, where there are a bunch of hives. The guard — 96 gr. mages. I left 5 basilisks, 20 lizardmen, 50 gnolls, 10 flies, and 2 Wyverns there. Seems fine. But no mana. I pray that Tyraxor isn't nearby, so I can collect about 3-4 hives on the next turn. But he was naturally nearby and almost on full mana attacks with Expert Earth, Slow, and Shield. There's not much meat — 60 gr. dogs, 17 Sandors, 1 angel, and some goblins and orcs — but I have no mana and no way to fight... I looked at the map — there are 2 dog dwellings, a bird dwelling and orcs, and an exit to the center through free guards along the path — nonsense basically, not a spawn... I don't know how anyone could win... Maybe if I ran away myself, replenished mana, waited for him to make a mistake and attacked myself with Mass Slow and Mass Shield that I leveled up on those GOs. But generally, playing such a game is disgusting, and against expert shooting with the orc dwelling I probably wouldn't have outplayed him anyway... I'm done playing these Blue-vote templates, I've had my fill, I'm full. And I advise everyone to switch to MM6 to improve your skill in the game, rather than relying on these ridiculous RNG layouts!!!:cool:

Javdet

16 years ago

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Regardless of the outcome, I can assure you that Sani-keptein's claims about their incredibly high skill level are clearly exaggerated; perhaps they were just playing against a weaker opponent.
P.S. A mirror match is coming up – I would bet a long streak on Alex winning, and I think he'll win decisively.

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AlexTheGreat

16 years ago

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Javdet

regardless of the outcome, I can assure you that Sanya-captain's claims about their incredibly high skill level are clearly exaggerated; perhaps they were just playing against a different opponent.

Incredibly high skill? Is that a joke??? :eek: :eek: :smile29: The guy should have been able to destroy his own Castle, the Necropolis with its horses, without any losses!!! There should have been 120-130 dogs on level 131!!! But he only brought 60... It's completely useless... In 2 out of 3 games, people just got lucky and managed to reach me at the most crucial moment. Again, if he had managed to run past him, and he wasn't even planning to use the "Expert Tactics" to kill the Archmages, whom I defeated without tactics and without significant losses, then he would have gathered 40 vipers in 2 turns, which would have been impossible to defeat!..

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PReDS

16 years ago

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Javdet

Regardless of the outcome, I can assure you that Sanya-Captain's claims about their exceptional skill are clearly exaggerated; they might have just been playing against a different opponent.

I still really want to see the replays because, towards the end of the first week, there was hope that the Chinese player would mess things up. Moreover, if the online translator isn't lying, some players from gamerhome.net expressed a similar opinion, suggesting that Alex managed to level the playing field.

Towards the end of the game, there was a comment that Alex, due to his limited experience playing Balance, made a strategic mistake. :confused:
Stiky, is it possible to get some clarification from them? Maybe we missed something.

AliaSmehova

Exceptional skill? Is that a joke??? :eek: :eek: :smile29: The guy should have been destroying his own town, clearing out the Necromancer's horses without any losses! There should have been 120-130 dogs on turn 131! He brought me only 60... It's completely useless... In 2 out of 3 games, people just got lucky and managed to reach me at the most opportune moment. Again, if he had run past me, and instead of using the "Expert Tactics" to kill the Archmages, which I defeated without tactics and without critical losses, he had just continued to attack, he would have gathered 40 vipers in 2 turns, which would have been difficult to kill!

Well, the fact that he reached me at the right moment might have been because he was waiting for me, having moved to the center first. But there were a lot of unclear losses, which the Chinese players themselves also wrote about.

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Javdet

16 years ago

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AliaSmehova

Is that "cloud-level skill" a joke??? :eek: :eek: :smile29: The guy should have been able to destroy his own Castle, the Necropolis with its horses, without any losses!!! There should have been 120-130 dogs on level 131!!! He brought me 60... It's completely useless... In 2 out of 3 games, people just got lucky and managed to reach me at the right moment. Again, if he had managed to run past him, and he wasn't even going to use the "Expert Tactics" to kill the Archmages, which I defeated without tactics and without critical losses, then I would have gathered 40 vipers in 2 turns, which would be impossible to kill!..

Alex, don't worry)) you described that "cloud-level" skill (about the dogs) yourself... after the saves from the first game, everything became clear)).

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Дубровин Павел

16 years ago

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AliaSmehova

I lost... And I advise everyone to switch to Might and Magic VI to improve their gaming skills, rather than relying on these absurd setups!!!:cool:

It's okay, it happens, thanks anyway for playing on Vol's side.:)

Yes, I don't see anything good in the Balance either.

Lider1

16 years ago

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After a fight, there's no need to wave your fists. The Chinese team played well – it was a draw. And so did we :D Congratulations to everyone. This shows a good result, considering they didn't have experience in international competitions. And honestly, we don't have many achievements either (an unfinished match against Lithuania ended in a draw, and that's it). Perhaps Bai will want to show off his "might" by playing on other maps and with different rules in the same Chaos League, but I've drawn my own conclusions. They managed to beat Alex twice, and no matter what anyone says, the fact remains. Of course, Heroes is not just about skill, but also about luck. Respect to both teams, it was interesting to watch all of this from the sidelines! Thinkeer and Hotyun stood out particularly well on their side. ps To Pasha: I personally don't see anything good in the fact that we mostly play on 2sm4d(3), and so what? And I think there are many resources on the internet, like http://www.heroes-iii.com/. So, it's a matter of taste. ps2: Let's not start an argument about who has bad skills and who was just lucky, and how we could have done much better. There's a result, and that's a fact that's more important than all the boasting, so let's congratulate each other on the game and that's it. With respect to all participants.

Loi

16 years ago

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so let's congratulate each other on the game.

+1.
Thank you to both teams,

with respect to all participants.

StickyFingaz

16 years ago

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Let me summarize. The match ended with a score of 4:4.
I'm a bit tired right now, and my mind isn't working very well, so I'll just repeat the words of the Leader:

Let's not start arguing about who has bad skills and who was just lucky, because if that weren't the case, we would have crushed them. We have a result, and that's a fact that's more important than all the boasting, so let's congratulate each other on the game and that's it.

Thank you to all the participants in the match, the fans, and our opponents!

P.S. I'm very tired after the club, if any thoughts come to mind, I'll write them down.

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PReDS

16 years ago

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StickyFingaz

Let me summarize. The match ended with a score of 4:4.
I'm a bit tired right now, and my mind isn't working very well, so I'll just repeat what the Leader said.

Thank you to all the participants in the match, the fans, and our opponents!

P.S. I'm very tired after the club, if any thoughts come to mind, I'll write.

So, will there be no continuation, and will it end in a draw? It's great that friendship won, and I congratulate our colleagues from China on that. But maybe we should start arranging a new match?

P.S. Will there be saves or not? The Chinese host should have them, since he posted screenshots.

StickyFingaz

16 years ago

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If there is another match, it won't be sooner than in 3 months. If such events are too frequent, they will quickly become tiresome. Soon, there will be another interportal event.

As soon as I see Puma online, I will ask for the save files.