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OFFLINE Tournament "Knights of Honor"




I've been looking at various online resources for offline tournaments... IMHO, many find them inaccessible due to their complex and hard-to-execute rules, deadlines, and the difficulty of organizing and control... All these rules are necessary to avoid unfairness... I want to propose creating a tournament where fairness is established not by tedious rules, seconds, and judges, but by the Honor and Valor of the players themselves! As they say, We gentlemen take each other's word for it. :) In our case, something else will serve as the "word," but without any saves, game chronologies, or arena creation. Of course, not everyone will be able to play this way—most likely only proven forum members. The most important things in such a tournament are honesty and reliability. There will be no prize, of course, so there will be no incentive to behave dishonestly. It's like a game between two friends who are neighbors:
- Look how many points I scored on this map!
- That's nothing... Look how many I have!
- Wow! Well then, I'll beat the record!

As for the reward—that's up to the administration... Make suggestions on how to arrange it! Here is mine:

A list of players is compiled (only the most honest and fair!), the organizer selects maps, posts them one by one, players complete them and send a screenshot of the results showing the map name, player nick (must match the forum nick, and an identification mark issued by the organizer can be added), and points. Places will be awarded based on points. The system could be like this—for example, 8 players play a map, the 4 best results are chosen, those 4 players play the next map, 2 are chosen, and so on. Use of cheats, programs, and non-personal walkthroughs is prohibited. All this, of course, depends on your conscientiousness! I think using game bugs can be allowed, but then we'll need to agree on the game version—choice of SoD3.2, WoG, TE. Or we could ignore the version, since final points depend on the map and player experience! The point calculation formula shall be known to all: (200-(Days+10)/(N+5)+25+25)*difficulity :
where Days is the number of days, N is the number of towns on the map, difficulity is the difficulty level (easy=0.8, normal=1, hard=1.2 (seemingly), expert=1.6, impossible=2), first +25 points—if all enemies were killed, second +25 points—if the grail was dug up
Maximum 500 points. Something like that.

Waiting for your suggestions! Be honest!

Participant list:
Varg-Nar
Firelord
Qwerty
VDV_forever
fanat
Alex_soldier
Ta Kotoraya...
AlexeyPank
Supreme
UTER

The list continues to form, submit your applications.
Regulations of the first Tournament of Honor.
1. The tournament is conducted in three stages. The duration of each stage is 40 days. After this period, saves will not be accepted for consideration. There will be no exceptions!

2. Each stage involves three task-saves. Thus, the total number of tasks is nine, one for each race. The goal is to score the highest number of points while being guided by the SPIRIT, IDEOLOGY, and Rules of the save walkthrough.

3. Competitive events are held on maps of size M and L, with dungeons (M, L) and without them (L). Thus, 3 map size options are possible: M with dungeon, L without dungeon, L with dungeon. Computer opponents play in a union ("alliance"), their number ranging from 3 to 4 depending on the map's characteristics. The final decision regarding the number of opponents, map sizes, as well as terrain features (specifically water areas, mountains, teleports) is made by the tournament Organizers.

4. At the end of each stage, the participant sends winning saves and a screenshot of the "hall of fame." The winning save is made before the final battle. Winning saves should be named as follows: task number player nick points. For example: 1 vbs 500. In the screenshot name, put scr followed by the same as in the save name. The map should be completed under the nick registered in the tournament. Address for winning saves: TKoH@bk.ru

5. A player is entitled to send as many winning saves as they managed to complete. Thus, the number of sent saves can be from 1 to 3.

6. It is MANDATORY to save the message sent with the saves until the results are tallied. This is so that in case of email failure, the player can prove they sent the saves BEFORE the deadline.

7. Within a week after the end of each stage, results for each save are tallied.

8. After the third and final stage, general results are tallied. The results of all the player's winning saves are taken into account. Results are tallied by summing the points obtained during the walkthrough of each save. The tournament winner receives the corresponding title.

9. In case two or more participants score the same number of points, the following additional indicators apply:
1) number of days;
2) main hero's experience;
3) sum of main hero's primary skills without artifacts;
4) sum of primary skills with artifacts.

10. In case one or more players score the same number of points in the general standings, the following indicators apply:
1) "countdown" - arithmetic mean between a system fixing first and last places;
2) total number of days to complete all saves.

11. In case of doubts about the honesty of the walkthrough, the player is OBLIGED to provide a detailed report. Arguments such as "every squad had morale every turn," "all computer players entered Utopia one by one and died there," etc., will not be considered. If a player cannot provide a satisfactory report on the walkthrough, their save will be annulled. In case dishonest play is proven, the player will be excluded from the tournament without the right to participate in Tournaments of Honor for one year. In case of PROVEN use of cheat codes or other known dishonest methods in a final walkthrough, the tournament organizers will submit an ADMIN request to revoke the player's access to the site ("ban").

12. Tournament Organizers reserve the right to disqualify any participant from the tournament. They are not obliged to explain the reasons for such a step or prove that the walkthrough does not match the SPIRIT of the tournament.

Rules of the save walkthrough.
1. When completing a save, one should be guided by the SPIRIT and IDEOLOGY of the tournament and be honest.
2. Save hacking, use of third-party programs ("hero diggers" etc.), as well as the use of cheat codes is strictly prohibited.
3. Prohibited:
3.1. Dishonest play;
3.2. Use of s/l method (specifically "digging out a hero," forcing weekly/monthly growth, etc.);
3.3. Use of any cheat codes regardless of the walkthrough stage, including "map exploration";
3.4. Loading an autosave, specifically "grinding" a result through constant re-plays of each Gameplay.
4. Allowed:
4.1. Replaying the game twice FROM THE VERY beginning in case of losing the map. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt;
4.2. Replaying the map once from the very beginning without explaining reasons. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt.
5. The game is played as if against a live opponent, without constant saves and reloads.
6. I emphasize again specifically: LOADING AN AUTOSAVE, SAVING THE GAME BEFORE A BATTLE, LOADING ANY SAVE OTHER THAN THE STARTING ONE IS UNACCEPTABLE!, as it contradicts the SPIRIT of the Tournament. Only loading a save from a deferred game in case of interruption is allowed. Naturally, verifying this point is impossible, but the presence of Dessa, Crag Hack, Tazar, Solmyr, Cili among heroes and constant growth weeks, as well as taking griffin conservatories without losses, may lead to exclusion from the tournament.
7. In case of violation of the Rules, the player is guaranteed exclusion from the tournament and other "joys of life."

May Honor and Dignity be with you! Glorious Victories!:)


Starting saves -> Download

Deadline for sending winning saves - October 01, 2006, 22:05.
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Varg, stay! It's better to have you review maps in the editor than to lose such a player. We need knights of honor, and you are one of them!
Мы спасемся? Я не знаю. Верьте...
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I don't understand anything.
Varg-Nar, as a last resort, you can participate outside of the competition.
I still can't understand what the difference is between "verified" and "unverified" maps. And also: why look at it in the editor? To find out where the Grail is buried? To find out all the events and so on? To find out the loyalty of the monsters? And this is in the Knights of Honor tournament?
It's just that the tournament shouldn't be left without a quorum... Because the initial beautiful and worthy idea is starting to turn into cheating again, both in spirit and in form.
I propose:
Option 1.
Hold two separate competitions: one for cheaters (with map scouting, editor, etc.);
and one for the Knights of Honor (without scouting or anything else). As a result, there will be two titles - Best Cheater and Winner of the Knights of Honor Tournament. At the same time, Varg-Nar's results should be counted in the second competition, and, if he performs better than everyone else, the title will be officially awarded to him. If this title is not official, I will ask all participants in posts addressed to Varg-Nar to add "Winner of the Knights of Honor Tournament." In principle, an honorary title could be given for the very idea of holding such a tournament.
Option 2. Wait for Firelord to return, and after discussing the situation with Varg-Nar and Firelord, they will make a decision.

I hope for your understanding,
Qwerty
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Vsem Privet! Pishu iz kluba kakogo-to. Ne oznokomilsya so vsem predlojennom i dr. Nas4et "proBepeHbix" - 4erez redaktor proverim i vse! Vsem uda4i! 28 budu.
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Good day, Knights of the Tournament!
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I still can't understand the difference between "verified" and "unverified" maps.
These are the maps that are present in the maps folder when saving the game, that is, the standard maps for this version; in this case, these are maps from the SoD version... that's all, I called them "verified" because many people have already played them; they are the main ones... That's why I suggested making it possible to view them in the editor, as it turns out not everyone has played them and knows them...
But I agree with you, let's not reinvent the wheel at the end... So, the rules remain as they are... The saves will be submitted, and all tournament participants will be notified of this in private messages on our forum... I will create one save based on the standard map for the ("verified") version...

And here are the complete rules that have been put together Qwerty, thank you to all the Knights of the Tournament for participating in their creation; let's just summarize them:

In the absence of other opinions, I will begin preparing a new version of the Tournament Regulations and Save Walkthrough Rules.

Regulations of the First Tournament of Honor.
1. The tournament is held in three stages. The duration of each stage is 40 days. After this period, saves will not be accepted for consideration. There will be no exceptions!

2. Each stage involves three tasks-saves. Thus, the total number of tasks is nine, one for each race. The goal is to score the most points, while adhering to the SPIRIT, IDEOLOGY, and Save Walkthrough Rules.

3. The competition is held on maps of size M and L, with (M, L) and without (L) dungeons. Thus, there are 3 possible map sizes: M with a dungeon, L without a dungeon, L with a dungeon. Computer opponents play in an alliance, with their number ranging from 3 to 4, depending on the characteristics of the map. The final decision regarding the number of opponents, map sizes, and features of the terrain (in particular, water spaces, mountains, teleporters) is made by the Tournament Organizers.

4. At the end of each stage, the participant sends the winning saves and a screenshot of the "hall of fame". The winning save is made before the final battle. Winning saves should be named as follows: No. task, player nickname, number of points. For example: 1 vbs 500. The screenshot should be named with "scr" and then as in the save name. The map should be played under the nickname registered in the tournament. The address for winning saves: TKoH@bk.ru

5. The player has the right to send as many winning saves as he managed to. Thus, the number of saves sent can be from 1 to 3.

6. It is MANDATORY to save the message sent with the saves until the results are announced. This is necessary so that in case of email malfunctions, the player can prove that he sent the saves BEFORE the deadline.

7. Within a week after the end of each stage, the results are summed up for each save.

8. At the end of the third, final stage, the overall results are summed up. At the same time, the results of all the player's winning saves are taken into account. The results are summed up by adding up the points received for completing each save. The winner of the tournament receives the appropriate title.

9. In the event that two or more participants score the same number of points, the following additional indicators come into play:
1) number of days;
2) experience of the main hero;
3) the sum of the primary skills of the main hero, without taking into account artifacts;
4) the sum of the primary skills, taking into account artifacts.

10. In the event that in the overall standings one or more players score the same number of points, the following indicators come into force:
1) "reverse countdown" - the arithmetic mean between the system with the first and last places;
2) the sum of the number of days to complete all saves.

11. In case of doubts about the fairness of the walkthrough, the player MUST provide a detailed report. Arguments such as "morale for each squad every turn", "all players of all computer players took turns entering Utopia and died there," etc., will not be considered. If the player cannot provide a satisfactory report on the walkthrough, his save will be canceled. In the event that unfair walkthrough is proven, the player will be excluded from the tournament and will not be allowed to participate in Tournaments of Honor for a year. In the event of VERIFIABLY PROVEN use of cheat codes or other obviously unfair methods in the final walkthrough, the tournament organizers will submit a request to ADMIN to ban the player from the site.

12. The tournament organizers reserve the right to disqualify any of the participants. At the same time, they are not obliged to explain the reasons for such a step and prove the inconsistency of the walkthrough with the SPIRIT of the tournament.

Save Walkthrough Rules.
1. When completing a save, you should be guided by the SPIRIT and IDEOLOGY of the tournament, be honest.
2. It is strictly forbidden to hack the save, use third-party programs ("heroecopalka", etc.), and use cheat codes.
3. It is forbidden:
3.1. Unfair play;
3.2. Using the s/l method (in particular, "digging up a hero", calling a week/month of growth, etc.);
3.3. Using any cheat codes, regardless of the stage of the walkthrough, including "map reconnaissance";
3.4. Loading autosaves, in particular, "squeezing out" the result by constantly replaying each game process.
4. Allowed:
4.1. Replay the game twice from the VERY beginning in case of losing the map. At the same time, it is strictly forbidden to use saves from the previous walkthrough when replaying the map;
4.2. Replay the map once from the beginning without explanation. At the same time, it is strictly forbidden to use saves from the previous walkthrough when replaying the map.
5. The game is played as it is played with a live opponent, without constant saves and reloads.
6. I would like to emphasize once again: LOADING AUTOSAVE, SAVING THE GAME BEFORE THE BATTLE, LOADING ANY SAVE EXCEPT THE STARTING ONE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE!, as it contradicts the SPIRIT of the Tournament. It is only allowed to load a save from a suspended game in case of interruption of the walkthrough. Of course, it is impossible to check this point, but the presence of DESSA, CRAG HACK, TAZAR, SOLMYR, CYL, and constant weeks of growth among the heroes, as well as taking griffon conservatories without losses, may lead to exclusion from the tournament.
7. In case of violation of the Rules, the player is guaranteed exclusion from the tournament and other "joys of life".

May Honor and Dignity be with You! Glorious Victories!:)

P.S. And to close the topic about my participation, I will participate in the Tournament... let's see what comes of it....
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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I completely agree. To dispel any doubts among those present regarding hidden intentions, I declare that the only map from the standard set that I personally completed is "War of the Hordes."
Let's play fairly, just like in online games with friends. Even if not everyone can set records, and there are only three places on the podium of honor, and there might not be enough time to complete all three saves – we will still participate in the Tournament of Honor and Dignity!
With gratitude to Varg-Nar and Firelord,
Qwerty
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Here are the save files for the first stage of the tournament. All three of them. Good luck!
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Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Finally, the tournament has started!!! I'll try my luck in the team competition, but I don't understand why there were disputes about the organizers' participation. Is the first prize a car or something???
Well, I've read the rules, and we'll play and see what happens.
I wish all the tournament participants good luck; you'll need it here more than anywhere else.

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Varg-Nar!!!
Check again what you uploaded; I think these are some incorrect save files. Moreover, I'm also being told that the archive is corrupted!!!
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Finally, the tournament has started!

I wish all participants victory in the tournament and, most importantly, enjoyment from fair and honest gameplay.

Let's remember the good old times!


P.S. Fanat: All my saves loaded, everything is OK.

Sincerely, VDV_forever!
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Excellent! Therefore, the final deadline for submitting winning save files is October 1, 2006, 22:05. Hooray!
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Great that the tournament has started, but there's a small question.
WHY IS THERE NOTHING ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT ON THE START PAGE?
and one more question) in which version were the save files generated?
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It's strange, now everything is fine, but yesterday evening there was some kind of nonsense.
I downloaded all the saves, I'll start playing soon, and once again, good luck to everyone!

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I don't understand one thing: how many times can I replay if I don't complete the map on the first try?
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Dear honorable Knights!

I have a "glitch" in the first stage of the 1st save:

When I try to enter the Castle of the Titans (located in the middle), the game crashes! :( Maybe someone else has the same problem???:confused:

...Well, never mind, I bought an army in this castle, I successfully defeated it, and moved on;)

So, first impressions:

The map is normal, but not very interesting.
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It's strange, I didn't submit an official application to participate in the tournament, and I was also away on vacation for a month – and yet, look at that – my name is on the list of participants! =) But since that's the case, I'll participate, especially since, if I'm not mistaken, the tournament has just started, right? ;) So I haven't missed anything! GREAT! =) Okay, as soon as I read all the rules that you finally agreed on after heated discussions, I'll start working on the walkthrough... and wish me luck!!! ;) :D
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, TA KOTORAYA!!!
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VDV_forever;30199
FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
GOOD LUCK TO YOU, Kotoraya!!!
Thank you very much =)
P.S. Nobody will mind if I ask a couple of questions, right? As they come up, of course... ;) Because this is my first time participating in such tournaments, despite having quite a bit of gaming experience. So, I might have some very silly questions... I apologize in advance if anything is wrong =)</
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...

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