Posts from Мафия 8. The Orcish Saga

The Bison doesn't sleep – it watches over us with its all-seeing eye ^_^

Currently in the Nomination Phase

Too many candidates...

Hmm, maybe the healer isn't dead yet, but just cast a spell to create a guard? Unless, of course, they hanged him yesterday.

After the second shaman's murder:
What about the twisted arms? Are you keeping quiet about that again? Tsk tsk.

Why am I keeping quiet? Twisted arms are not evidence, because in the first murder, there was this quote: "His body was found right on the floor near the entrance, all contorted," meaning Ara's contorted body and Neyra's arms and legs twisted inside out – I just think this indicates the method of murder. After all, how does a voodoo doll work? The voodooist takes the doll's arm and puts it behind its back; the victim does the same with their own arms, hence the contortion... IMHO.

Why are you so sure that the victim was a Mafia member and not a Voodooist? =)

If a wolf had killed the Voodooist, the Voodooist's body would be lying next to Neyra and Hermit, because the Voodooist was there at night, not at home.

Furthermore, the wine – yes, I admit, it's very clear evidence against me. The Voodooist has cleverly chosen additional evidence for themselves. The main evidence against the Voodooist is the rag, because Ara's doll was made of fabric. Neyra's doll was just a doll.

P.S.

I didn't realize you were talking about the Chaos Warrior.

Read my previous post again (carefully); I think I explained everything in detail.

Dear Orcs,

I'd like to share my opinion. The events of tonight show that the Voodoo Shaman and the Orc Werewolf are still alive. This means we were too hasty in executing Drnik (of course, unless he was one of the mafia members). At this stage, I am primarily interested in the murders of Arandor and Neyra Drake. The pattern of these murders is similar (the doll and the contortion) and suggests that these crimes were committed by the Voodoo Shaman. Regarding the identity of the Voodoo Shaman, the only clue that might indicate who it is, in my opinion, is wine. The mention of wine was indirectly present in Drnik's profile (a rearrangement of letters in his name) and explicitly in Kyle's signature ("Mother - anarchy, father - a glass of port wine") (correct me if I'm wrong). Drnik, for obvious reasons, could not have killed Neyra tonight. Therefore, only Kyle remains among the suspects. So, to avoid losing my vote, I will cast it for Kyle's execution. Afterwards, if more compelling evidence appears, I will always have time to change my decision.

Sincerely,
Gur

No, the first clue about port wine couldn't possibly be that simple – I'll never believe it! There isn't even a real clue there:smile30:!! Regarding the "drink" clue, it could be possible, although it's still too easy for a FIRST clue. I'm more inclined to believe that the wine clue is very difficult and impossible to figure out, for example, it could be an anagram – "wine-warrior," and the word "warrior" is present in Hermit's profile, which is why I believe he killed Nera, and not the other way around ("the last path" and his avatar with the road")...

But overall, I mostly agree with Luchik now, so Wedma should be eliminated.

Kyle is on my list of suspects, and he's also suspected of being a Shaman: meaning, based on logic, he must be one of the negative roles. Only his hanging will reveal who he actually is: execute Kyle.
In my opinion, he's more likely a Werewolf than a Shaman – the clue about the wine is too obvious, just like the clue they're trying to connect to me: yes, it could point to me, but that would be too easy – maybe it's a clever double bluff? That's why I want to hang someone with the "children" ability now, to confirm my suspicions.

Hmm... And why, exactly, did the association "inexperienced = children" arise? IMO, "inexperienced" is closer to "noob," i.e., to Cash. Therefore, to accuse Kyle and the Witch of being "childish" is not an option. By the way, I only recently finished a Mafia game where they tried to frame someone as the doctor based on a hint (
Neyra was obviously the murderer, hence the dragon emerges. The only thing unclear is why she simply beat up Lizard, but also burned Hermit.
Cash's bump on his forehead might indicate that he ran into someone with strong protection (hence the sour expression). Besides being a noob, this is another argument against him. If so, it's possible that he and Neyra went to kill Hermit together – one failed, and the other finished the job. I don't know if such a scenario is possible according to the rules of this particular Mafia game, but it's not ruled out.
So, for now, let's "eliminate Cash in the bathroom," and then we'll see. If necessary, I'll reconsider.

Execute Wedmа - 2 votes (Lu41k, КостяN)
Execute Kyle - 3 votes (Kash, Гур Wedma)
Execute Kash - 1 vote (Драккошка)
NNV - 1 vote (batonkamch)

6 votes are needed to make a decision.

The main clue in the Voodoo scenario is a rag, because Ara's doll was made of rags. Neyra, however, already had a regular doll.

Another rag? =) No, I've been "hanged" for that before, although it wasn't successful.

P.S. Quote:

Message from Kash I didn't understand about the Chaos Warrior until now

Read my previous post again (carefully), I think I explained everything in detail there.

And this is my suggestion – it's just a tribute to your intelligence :) I didn't get it, but you did, respect.
However, I didn't immediately realize that Lizardman ran into Neyra...
But Voodoo, whoever he is, figured it out. And eliminated the competitor :)
I think Kyle is Voodoo.

As for the newbie in my signature – yes, it seems that this additional clue was designed for me :) I wonder who calculated that...

As for the newbie in my signature – yes, it seems like this additional clue was designed with me in mind. I wonder who calculated it that way...

Maybe it was you? :)

The clue about the wine is indeed too obvious, just like the clue they're trying to connect to me: yes, it points to me, but that would be too easy – maybe it's a clever red herring?

A clue that points to you is a normal clue in principle... because it points not only to you but also to two other people, namely VisTrist and Cash.
The clue about the wine – points only to me. – this is what I hope will puzzle you all a little bit... Hmm – I wouldn't reveal the killer on the first day with such a weak clue (come on, please, use your heads...).
Because it's clear that the wine here is either a cleverly planted additional clue pointing to me, or an indication that a moonshiner also visited Ara that day.
Because nothing is said about him in the first newspaper. However, if you read carefully:

Judging by the traces left behind, a wolf and an orc visited the hut.

Now let's look at the roles:
Orc-Werewolf – once a mighty orc hunter; after an unsuccessful hunt, he was bitten by a werewolf and now undergoes uncontrolled mutation every night – this is the wolf. I hope no one has any doubts about that.
Moonshiner – a thick orc. – yes, an orc, let's remember that. ;)
and the most interesting thing:
Voodoo Shaman – this troll doesn't care who he causes pain and suffering to. The shaman is a troll...
it's clear that the troll shaman killed Ara, and a wolf and an orc also visited.
So, which orc visited Ara?
The healer? No, he resurrected the hermit.
The hunter? No, he was with Revan.
That's it... there are no orcs left in the neutral faction except the moonshiner. That's why I think that the wine might be a clue that the moonshiner also visited Ara... or a cleverly planted additional clue. :smile32:

Regarding the execution: First of all, the mafia must be executed, because it is the main problem of the city. It's easier to figure out the killers, as there are many clues against them, and besides, in the first 2-4 nights, the killers are useful for the city, because they can also eliminate the mafia (which we see in this mafia).
Right now, there are no clues against the mafia yet, because the killers killed them. There are already several clues against the killers, and on the next day, you need to see which of them all the clues fit... and then hang them. But first, you need to get rid of the mafia. I don't want to make the same mistake as yesterday with Drnik, so NNV.

Although I understand that it would be very beneficial for the mafia to shut me up now, because I think I'm the only one who has put all the events of these two nights in order.

I think that Kyle should be executed. The wine evidence could have been planted by him to deflect suspicion, in the style of: "the evidence is too obvious," although, as Kyle said when he went to hang Drinik:

I hope we're not wrong... but those who do nothing, never make mistakes...

Execute Wedma - 2 votes (Lu41k, KostyaN)
Execute Kyle - 4 votes (Kash, Gur, Wedma, Magnus)
Execute Kash - 1 vote (Drakkoshka)
No New Vote - 2 votes (batonkamch, Kyle)

6 votes are needed to make a decision.

The clue about wine points only to me.

Because it's clear that the wine here is a cleverly planted additional clue against me.

The killer can plant one additional clue at the crime scene. It must point to them and be original.

^_~

Regarding the execution: First, the mafia should be executed, as they are the main problem in the city.

Executing the maniac = one less murder per day.