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Registered: 2/21/2009 11:50 AM UTC

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7/25/2009 4:20 PM UTC

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Van

Van (Red, Castle, Waleska, Waleska) def DioNIX (Blue, Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.3 1/4 finals, thank you for the game.
P.S. I was lucky as never before :)

I confirm ;-)
Yes, and I had the opposite!...
I only found the tree towards the end of the 2nd week! The only path to the second artifact was blocked by 40 earth elementals, so I could only take it in the 2nd week...
In the end, Valya arrives with parameters 18/20/23/14, against my 9/14/4/6, but he only wanted to take the utopia, but Valya, with 26 utopias and 4 archmages, left no chance, and also had implosion for 3000, killing 67 silver pegasus in one go!
In the end, it turned out that the opponent took one utopia, and there he was given a teapot, a necklace +3, and a titan's cuirass!
Of course, I would have taken a restart if I could, but I had already used everything...

Anyway, GG, thanks for the game ;-)

Wrath of God...

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Registered: 8/31/2008 12:32 PM UTC

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7/25/2009 7:07 PM UTC

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Well done, what a thrilling competition! :) The Knight took four tries to finally confirm his participation. :) Just kidding, don't pay attention to that. Congratulations to DENCHELSEA and Van for reaching the semi-finals! Van, will I at least see one detailed report? :)

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Registered: 3/10/2009 9:24 AM UTC

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7/25/2009 8:30 PM UTC

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Erdem (Blue, Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def Gomunguls (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.1
1/4 finals

By week 1, Necro secondary hero, home 1-5 BN without 3 in the Citadel, in the secondary hero 1,2,4 in the Fort, captured 3 skeleton dwellings, 1 vampire dwelling. By week 2, 2 Griffin Conservatories 3+3. Killed the red scout hero at the underworld gate, home 1-6 in the Castle, captured the enemy's secondary Castle, expert Logistics, Earth, Wisdom, Sorcery, Armorer. By week 3, in the treasure zone 2 trees 6+8, on day 134 a Dragon Utopia with 4 Ancient Behemoths (Titan's Cuirass, Dragon Scale Armor, Sentinel's Shield, Cloak of Equilibrium), on day 136 a Dragon Utopia with 3 Ancient Behemoths (Wings, Medal of Diplomacy, Boots of Levitation), in the Pandora's Box took 20 Fanatics, all the water, 10k experience. On day 137 I stand at the border of the Barbarian respawn, next to a waterfall, the Barbarian capital is 1 move away (roads are fast). On day 141 the opponent surrenders, having lost almost his entire army somewhere. Thanks to Gomunguls for the game! :)

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Registered: 7/13/2008 1:02 PM UTC

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7/25/2009 10:18 PM UTC

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Erdem

Erdem (Blue, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthran) def Gomunguls (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.1
Quarterfinal

At week 1: necro secondary, home 1-5 no 3rd in citadel, in secondary 1,2,4 in fort, captured 3 skeleton dwellings, 1 vampire dwelling. At week 2: 2 Griffin Conservatories 3+3. Killed the scout hero of reds in the underground gate, home 1-6 in castle, captured enemy secondary castle, expert logistics, earth, wisdom, sorcery, armor. At week 3: in treasure zone 2 trees 6+8, on day 134 Dragon Utopia for 4 artifacts (Titan's Plate, Dragon Scale Armor, Sentinel's Shield, Cloak of Equilibrium), on day 136 Dragon Utopia for 3 artifacts (Wings, Medal of Diplomacy, Boots of Levitation), from pandora's box got 20 fanatics, all water, 10k experience. On day 137 I stand at the border of the barbarian spawn, a waterfall nearby, barbarian capital 1 move away (fast roads). On day 141 opponent surrenders, losing almost the entire army somewhere. Thanks Gomunguls for the game! :)

Could you please share the save files????
Interesting both for the referee and the player!!!

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Registered: 5/8/2009 8:21 PM UTC

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7/26/2009 4:36 AM UTC

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Erdem

Erdem (Blue, Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def Gomunguls (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.1
1/4 finals

Confirmed.
Thank you for the game!

Удача любит подготовленных!!!

Стримы и обучение тут:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWlnXU5R5RLCMuWzIpBc65Q

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Registered: 3/16/2009 4:08 PM UTC

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7/26/2009 6:42 AM UTC

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Cash Van, man, will I ever see a detailed report? :)
I don't know how to use quotes; I'm already an older guy, and older guys have families, which means they don't have time (at least they still let me play...). Some "comrades" are starting to question whether I'm a cheater, but I'm ready to settle all questions in battle. Save your games and check it out.
Erdem is ready to hold the semi-final today; message him on ICQ.
P.S. And who gave those Necropolis players a Galtron? :)

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7/26/2009 8:52 AM UTC

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SEM_56

Could you please share the save files?
It would be interesting for both the judge and the player!

I sent the daily save files to the tournament judge, Kash. If Stracker hadn't started so aggressively, I would have played better. But as it is, there's nothing extraordinary there; I think I didn't play my best. On day 133, I had around 15 angels with a group stack (guarding the first Utopia and the Tether). Their stats were approximately 6-6-6-6, with Mass Slow. The Utopia had similar stats. (Before taking the Utopia, I had no artifacts except for the Amulet of the Oppressed). In the battle, I lost all 14 Vivs, 20+ Gremlins, 2 angels, and a lot of skeletons. In the second Utopia, I lost 18 Fanatics, 1 angel, a lot of skeletons, and a large number of spearmen. And that's without any offense, which they just wouldn't give me.

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Registered: 8/31/2008 12:32 PM UTC

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7/26/2009 9:02 AM UTC

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Van

Van, man, will I ever see a detailed report? :)

I don't know how to use quotes; I'm already an old man, and old men have families, which means they don't have time (at least they still let me play...). Some "comrades" have questions about this, wondering if I'm a cheater. I'm ready to answer all questions in battle; save your games and check.
Erdem is ready to hold the semi-final today; message him on ICQ.
P.S. And who gave those Necropolis players a Galtron? :)Okay, then, Uncle Van. :)
It's good that you still have time to play.
Could you at least outline the semi-final a bit? Okay, I'll be quiet now.
And about Galtron - yes, you're right. But why did you give me a red one? Remember? =)
Erdem - good job!

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Registered: 7/13/2008 1:02 PM UTC

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7/26/2009 10:14 AM UTC

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Erdem

I sent the daily saves to the tournament judge, Kash. If Stracker hadn't joined from the start, I would have played better. But as it is, there's nothing extraordinary there; I think I didn't play my best. On day 133, I had about 15 Angels with a group stack (guarding the first Utopia and the Tether). I attacked with stats of 6-6-6-6, approximately with Mass Slow. The Utopia had similar stats. (Before taking the Utopia, there were no artifacts except for the Spirit of Oppression). In it, I lost all 14 Vivs, 20+ 18 Gremlochs, 2 Angels, and a lot of skeletons. In the second Utopia, I lost 18 Fanatics, 1 Angel, a lot of skeletons, and a large number of spearmen. And that's without any offense, which they didn't want to give.

Send me a message on ICQ and share the saves; I don't play Necromancer myself, but I'd like to learn about the wonders of the Necromancer faction:smile16:

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Registered: 4/16/2009 9:49 PM UTC

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7/26/2009 9:17 PM UTC

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Van

Cash Van, man, will I ever see a detailed report? :)
I don't know how to use quotes; I'm already an older guy, and older guys have families, which means they don't have time (at least they still let me play...). Some "comrades" have questions about this, wondering if I'm a cheater. I'm ready to resolve all questions in battle; save your games and check.
Erdem is ready to hold the semi-final today; contact him on ICQ.
P.S. And who gave those Necromancers a Galtron? :)

At least a mini-report, is it really that difficult?
It won't take more than 15 minutes, and people (especially me) will be very interested in how the person played.
I don't think you won't be able to find the time... :smile32:

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7/26/2009 9:21 PM UTC

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Erdam

I sent the daily saves to the tournament judge Kash. If Stracker hadn't come from the start, I would have played better. But as it is, there's nothing supernatural there; I believe I didn't play my best. On 133, about 15 angels with a griffin stack (guarding the 1st utopia and the bowstring) I fought with stats around 6-6-6-6, with mass slow, and utopia with similar stats. (before taking the utopia, I had no artifacts except the Spirit of Oppression). In that fight, I lost all 14 vivs, 20 + 18 gremlins, 2 angels, and lots of skeletons. In the second utopia, I lost 18 fanatics, 1 angel, lots of skeletons, and a bunch of spearmen. And this is without Offense, which they just wouldn't give me.

Please send me the saves for 124 and 125 and a detailed description of taking the Griffin Conservatory with 3 angels!!
Because with 185 skeletons, Galthran's low attack, and no magic to boost the skeletons' attack, taking the conservatory is only possible with a loss of about 100 skeletons, yet you have almost zero losses:smile12:

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7/27/2009 3:05 AM UTC

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I will describe the semi-final if I win. :)

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7/27/2009 8:09 AM UTC

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SEM_56

Please send me the saves for 124 and 125

But I sent all the saves from day 1 to the last one yesterday.

SEM_56

and a detailed description of taking the Griffin Conservatory with 3 Angels!!
Since with 185 skeletons, Galtran's low attack, and no magic to boost the skeletons' attack, taking the Conservatory is only possible with a loss of around 100 skeletons, while you have almost zero losses:smile12:

I am describing game day 124: Halon takes the chest and scroll, goes to Straker (standing near the Dwarf Cottage), on the way clears 34 boars without losses (Haste on skeletons), transfers the army to Straker, who kills Gogs with a loss of ~14 skeletons, takes the max-Dwarf Cottage without losses. Runs down to the capital, falls slightly short. I buy Gunnar in the tavern (38 Troglodytes, 4 Evil Eyes, 5 Harpies from the start), he takes the army from Straker, returns to the capital, converts Troglodytes and Zombies into Skeletons, upgrades them, buys 11 Vampires, transfers the entire army to Geon, who transfers it to Galtran. Total Galtran's army before taking the Conservatory by stacks: ~220 Skeletons, 1 Harpy, 15 Vampires, 1 Harpy, 1 Harpy, 4 Evil Eyes, 1 Harpy. First round: I Haste the Skeletons, who hit the top-left Griffin stack, ~8 remain, 3 single Harpies fly to the right and hold 3 Griffin stacks and die, Vampires hit the top-left stack (4 remain), Evil Eyes go down to the bottom-left stack and die there, the remaining Griffins kill 1 Harpy. End of round 1: three right stacks are almost in place, bottom-left in place. Wait with Skeletons and Vampires, I Slow one of the right Griffin stacks (the closer one). Griffins fly, Skeletons and Vampires almost kill the bottom-left stack. Round 3: Bloodlust on Skeletons, Wait, I knock out another stack. In round 4, Shield on Skeletons, and they attack the last one without waiting. The rest is straightforward. Result: losses of 30+ Skeletons, 7 Vampires, i.e., I end up with 184 Skeletons and 8 Vampires + 45 Skeletons obtained from the Sorcery skill. I'll clarify right away — this is an approximate description, not exact, there may be minor inaccuracies, since it's hard to remember everything in detail at 3 AM, but I think the algorithm is clear. I tested it again today, got a better result: lost 34 Skeletons, 2 Vampires, and the overkill. I ask the judges to conduct game day 124 according to the scheme described above, I don't understand where this distrust comes from, it's even a bit offensive...

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Registered: 8/31/2008 12:32 PM UTC

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7/27/2009 9:02 AM UTC

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Ottakota! Get to know our players! :)
I'll try to replicate it, but I can't guarantee the result – my skills aren't good enough. Well done, Erdem. Good luck!

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Registered: 7/13/2008 1:02 PM UTC

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7/27/2009 9:10 AM UTC

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Kash

Right on! That's our guy! :)
I'll try to replicate it, but I can't vouch for the result — my skill isn't up to it. Well done, Erdem. Good luck!

I replicated it with fewer losses, since we bought more skeletons...
And I based it on such reasoning, because both participants kept pestering me with various saves. That's why a description was needed...
And secondly, I've been trying to play with Erden for 3 weeks now — maybe you can find time this week so we can play and you can see how Dragon Utopias are taken in the third week!!!:smile14:

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