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What format would be best for conducting the SECOND stage of the tournament?
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a single-elimination tournament system, i.e., the loser is immediately eliminated from the tournament
41.8% 23 votes
Full double elimination, i.e., a participant is eliminated from the tournament after losing twice (details and an example can be found in the thread)
58.2% 32 votes
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17 years ago
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Since my match with Monstro doesn't really matter to me, I suggest Monstro_aka_h3 play against other members of our group first, and then play against me if we still have time. I agree to set a deadline.
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17 years ago
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Avern
Since this match with Monstro doesn't really matter to me, I suggest Monstro_aka_h3 play against other teammates first, and then play against me if we have time. I agree to postpone it.
No technical postponements for you, Sergey. Finish the game if you want, of course. If you don't finish it in time, the result in the tournament will be zero, and when you do finish it, the game will count towards the rating.
Gomunguls - congratulations!
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17 years ago
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gen(Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Drake22(Red, Tower, Solmyr, Solmyr) 2SM4d(3),2.2.5

Shakti is a maniac. Especially when he gets 3 slots and a native hero.

Dungeon spawn wasn't great... But the roads are fast + a solid starting army. The side road leads to the surface exit and a secondary, but it's blocked by ГО - black dragons.
I go down, pick up the +1 HP ring, gradually wipe out everyone, run into a max-sized mummy stack, where I lose most of my Troglodytes. Even my tactical tricks didn't help much. I see 2 external dwellings of Eyes, but I go with mushrooms and upgraded Troglodytes instead)
Next - the native secondary, but again I'm locked inside the dungeon...
A mini-Naga Bank (Nagas fizzled twice, barely touched me).
I go through the dungeon, pick up a +3/3 artifact behind Wyvern Monarchs, beat a Crusader horde and a mini-conflux.
I emerge onto the surface, do some light scouting, then head into the treasure zone.
I gradually loot the treasure zone, taking Pandora's Boxes without much trouble with my army — they give 15,000 gold plus experience, and 30 Monks with 20 Royal Griffins.
What was nice — 4 (!) external horse dwellings. Plus 2 from teleports...
In total, after waiting a bit and building up the cavalry, I take the pre-max and medium Dragon Utopias. Useful drops were the Sphere of Inhibition, Boots of Speed, and Wings. I buy out the army and head to the opponent, still gathering cavalry along the way.

I let him combine his two armies, but with 42 cavalry and 27 Knights the outcome was sealed. Even in the castle.

Thanks to Drake for the game.
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17 years ago
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gen(Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Drake22(Red, Tower, Solmyr, Solmyr) 2SM4d(3), 2.2.5
Yes, I confirm. Thank you very much for the game!
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17 years ago
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Group Stage Results:
(see tables)

Group A
1st place - ~no1_knows_me~
2nd place - Эрдэм

Group B
1st place - Gomunguls
2nd place - HeadHunter

Group C
1st place - DENCHELSEA
2nd place - DioNIX**

Group D
1st place - Van
2nd place - Ферзь 17

Quarterfinals:
(from 07.20 to 07.28)*

1. HeadHunter - ~no1_knows_me~
2. Эрдэм - Gomunguls
3. Ферзь 17 - DENCHELSEA
4. DioNIX** - Van

The player listed first in the pair goes first and makes the initial move.

Semifinals:

(from 07.29 to 08.04)***

1. DENCHELSEA - HeadHunter
2. Van - Эрдэм

Final and third-place match:

(from 08.05 to 08.11)***

I think everything is clear here. The winners of the semifinals go to the final, and the losers compete for third place.

_____________________

Notes:

* - Group A has been given an additional 2 days to finish playing, as promised. That's why the deadlines have been shifted by 2 days.
** - DioNIX took second place in the group because he won against Самая-самая in their head-to-head match. However, as far as I know, he was planning to be hospitalized for an indefinite period. If anything happens, Yulia will replace him in the playoffs; no one should object. If it turns out that both Самая-самая plays during the week and Dionix appears by Saturday, I think Van wouldn't mind playing against him, and the game with Yulia would be a friendly match. Any complaints – contact me on ICQ.
*** - It is not at all necessary to postpone the games until the last day. It is possible that we will hold the semi-finals and finals somewhat earlier than the scheduled dates if you wish. Try to choose the most convenient time for both players. I want the remaining games to be worthy and exciting. Please also try to take screenshots and provide detailed descriptions of the games.

P.S. Good luck!
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17 years ago
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If a player (who, in my opinion, took on an impossible task of playing 6 games in 2 weeks, making the group wait for an entire month) hasn't played a single full game or submitted a single report by the last hours of the last day of the tournament, how can we talk about enthusiasm? And it seems I'm still last in line for a brilliant simultaneous game session. :rolleyes: We agreed on Friday or Saturday, starting at 4 PM Moscow time, but he never showed up online. I'm just disappointed by this attitude towards the game. I'm ready to play every day from 4 PM to 9 PM Moscow time; please let me know if there's an opponent! :)
Человек человеку - друг!
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17 years ago
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I wouldn't mind playing against Monstro either; they unfairly gave me a 1-star rating for playing as Academy, and now they'll probably give the other player a 2-star rating... let me lose, but at least it will be fair. ))))) IMHO.
I play almost every day, starting at 7:00 PM Moscow time.
"Пришел, увидел, победил" - Юлий Цезарь.
"Пришел, скастовал, убежал" - Hit'n'Run.


- Почему женщины любят кентавров?
- И мужик в доме, и скотина в хозяйстве.


Штирлиц шел по коридору. Вдруг одна из дверей открылась, оттуда выскочил Борман, дал Штирлицу сильного пендаля и заскочил обратно. «Гарпия» - догадался Штирлиц.
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17 years ago
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Erdem
If a player (who, in my opinion, took on an impossible task of playing 6 games in 2 weeks, making the group wait for a whole month) didn't have a single full game or report until the last hours of the last day of the tournament, how can we talk about any enthusiasm?
Guys, thank you for waiting for Monstro. None of you even mentioned a technical victory, and everyone agreed to play with him in the last few days. Although it was clearly not in Erdem's and ~no1_knows_me's~ best interest to take risks, both of them were willing to negotiate with him and were looking for him yesterday. You don't really have anything to worry about: playing with Monstro_aka_h3 is up to you; if you don't play, it will be considered a technical defeat.
Logically, ~no1_knows_me~ and Erdem should advance to the playoffs, taking first and second place respectively.
I promised two days, and I can't take it back. And losing two days isn't that critical. Recently, the "SOY Spring-2009" tournament ended – it was intense! But in general, your group is really great – you didn't disappoint! I wish everyone a successful finish to the tournament, good luck!
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17 years ago
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Psyche_7
Psyche_7(blue,Conflux,Random(Pasis),Neela) def Monstro_aka_h3(red,Necropolis,Galthran,Galthran), 2sm4d, 212
P.P.S. toMonstro_aka_h3: playing with 3 heroes for more than a week and running Galthran on zombies is somehow not very "manly" :). I hope future opponents are less lucky.
I confirm, the distribution wasn't great, I should have asked for a rest (collected 50 skeletons at the start), but I saw a lich giver nearby and decided to play; besides, there was an ore crisis (blocked by a hundred teenagers), so I couldn't properly build levels 1-4 in the Stronghold, + the opponent intercepted my Gosh once and I had to pay them off. I didn't gain momentum although I highlighted 2 Dragon Utopia and treasure zone; if the opponent had dragged it out for another week, perhaps the situation would have changed.
ГГ thanks for the game!
P.S. Galthran only walked with zombies a bit during the 1st week because people were needed )

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Эрдэм
If a player....
Sorry, but life isn't just divided into online; there's little time left and problems arise outside of Heroes, especially since the game doesn't move quickly. I'll try to play today. But I now realize that it's better not to drag out tournaments; people play slowly, it's not comparable to a regular seasonal game. A season can be played through in 2-3 hours, but here you have to play for a couple of days =)
Стучите в телеграмм сыграем:
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17 years ago
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Van (Red, Conflux, Grindan, Grindan) def Samaya-samaya (Blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.2
Playoffs, quarterfinal, thank you for the game.
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17 years ago
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Van (Red, Conflux, Grindan, Grindan) def Samaya-samaya (Blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.2
Playoffs, quarterfinal, thank you for the game.
Confirmed, thank you for the game.
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17 years ago
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Van (Red, Conflux, Grindan, Grindan) def Samaya-samaya (Blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.2
Playoffs, quarterfinals, thank you for the game.
Just to clarify: possibly this was the quarterfinals, they played just in case, while there's still time, well done - they were quick.
Dionix: if you show up, let Van know.
Yulia: have a good rest, thank you for participating! :)

In 1.5 hours, I will announce the winners of Group A,
and the quarterfinals will officially begin.

Added 1 hour 53 minutes ago
With some delay, but I've finished.
Monstro_aka_h3 is awarded technical defeats, there's no point in waiting any longer.
Erdem, ~no1_knows_me~ - congratulations!
Good luck to everyone.
I'm looking forward to a great game from you and please try to stick to the schedule. Besides everything else, I have a personal reason to ask you to do this. Around August 12-15, I'm leaving for my fairytale taiga, where there is no internet, probably for a long time. I would like to see the winner. :)
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17 years ago
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DENCHELSEA (Red, Stronghold, Deesa, Deessa) def Ferz 17 (Blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.5
Quarterfinals
First week: Long roads, large and scarce respawn, external dwelling near the castle level 5,6 — guards Dendroids (20-49), three roads led, one had over 100 Centaur and Orcs (20-49), another had Dendroids (10-19), I didn't go (troops: Orcs 7, Goblins 17, Hounds 12, Roc 3) and the third was just insane, a triple block of Archers: Eyes (20-49), Archers (20-49) and a horde of Lizardmen. Left without secondary skills, Seven heroes with nothing to do!!! 1-5 in the castle, +1000 gold, external dwellings level 1, 2.
Second week: Took two secondary towns: Titans (a blue scout is at the bottom near the ore, can't get through (Archers)) and Humans. Installed Behemoths and greened the Roc. No money. Medusa farm is in a dead end (only wasting days on it), at the Titan respawn: a Naga Bank and a Thunderbird farm (far, didn't go, had more important things to do). That's it!!!
Third week: Finally took the external dwellings level 5,6 (horde of Dendroids, had grown by the second week). Installed Cyclopes. No money and none expected. Preparing to take another secondary town (Inferno).
Fourth week: Took Inferno, Griffin Conservatory level three and a Pandora's Box (horde of frenzied Vampires). Got a good beating there: had 3 Angels and 23 Rocs, ended with 2 Angels, 17 Rocs and 0 mana. Earth not Expert and 12 Vampires per stack. +15,000 experience.
Fifth week: News!!! Gunnar comes out of the underground onto the Human respawn. Takes the castle, I see he has no mana, didn't refill, went to the Hive, above the castle. "Papa" by that time is rushing headlong towards Gunnar (no mana and can't let him get home). Six heroes are passing the army along a chain. I attack. Deesa: 17 Cyclopes, 2 Angels, 7 Behemoths, 113 Hounds, 24 Thunderbirds, 3 Rocs, 56 Orcs. Gunnar: 45 Beholders, 4 Wyverns, 11 Minotaurs, 5 Manticores, 3 Crystal Dragons, 24 Troglodytes. He runs away with two Eyes. I head to the Main castle. Kill him there.
Thank you for the game!!!
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DENCHELSEA (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) def Ferz 17 (Blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.5 1/4 finals, Thanks for the game!!! P.s. I'll provide more details later.
DENCHELSEA (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) def Ferz 17 (Blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.5 1/4 finals. Confirmed. Thanks for the game.
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17 years ago
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Van (Red, Castle, Valerica, Valerica) def DioNIX (Blue, Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.3 Quarterfinals, thank you for the game.
P.S. I was lucky as never before :)

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