Posts from How do I disable the Armageddon spell, Might and Magic, and learn all spells in Astral with the Graal?

1) How to disable the Armageddon spell and the Armageddon Sword artifact if playing in SOD, and random maps are generated IN-GAME?

I know how to do this in the map editor, and where in the WOG options, but I don't know where in SOD:
- In WOG, there is an option "disable Arm. spell".
- In TE, there is an "option to disable Arm. spell" and "Arm. Sword".
- In SOD, this can only be done in the map editor.


2) If you place the Grail in the City of Elementals, the Heroes learn ALL spells permanently. :smile49: Although, in my "Armageddon Sword" game, it says that "Northern Lights (Rainbow) DOES NOT ALLOW LEARNING SPELLS". :smile06:

Nowhere (neither in SOD, nor in WOG, nor in TE) is there an option to "disable learning all spells" :eek:


It is clear that this is a game bug, and because of these bugs, it is IMPOSSIBLE to play with the City of Elementals.
1) Place the Grail in Astral - you get all spells, including Armageddon.
2) Hire Phoenixes, improved Elemental Mages, Fire and Earth Elementals.
And with Armageddon, you can destroy ANY army. :smile13:
:smile34: !!! THERE IS NO POINT IN CONTINUING THE GAME !!! :smile34:


You can introduce rules:
1) Do not place the Grail in the City of Elementals.
2) Do not use the Armageddon spell and the Armageddon Sword artifact.
But this is inconvenient.

Please tell me how to disable:
1) the appearance of the "Armageddon" spell in mage guilds, in scrolls, in pyramids (in SOD).
2) the appearance of the "Armageddon Sword" in dragon utopias and everywhere on the map (in SOD).
3) learning ALL spells in Astral when the Grail is present (in SOD, TE, and WOG)?

1. it can only be disabled in the map editor (on fixes)
2. load normal templates
3. play patched SoD 3.2 or Complete Collection 4.0 (just not WoG), and everything will be ok. :)

:smile52: :smile52: :smile52:
Looool!!! Author, keep 'em coming!!!

But seriously, you shouldn't play VoG so often :)
The Armageddon Sword artifact is completely banned on any random SoD and TE map. To dig up the Grail in online, you have to try really hard, because there are tons of obelisks there (although in TE you can disable obelisks and consequently the Grail; I think in SoD as well using zaobj.txt)

Generally, it's obvious that if a Conflux finds Armageddon, it's hard to come up with something here, of course, but you have to find it first, so banning the spell itself makes no sense. Besides, for every Armageddon there is its own "chupa-chups" and Cloak of Renunciation, and they are much easier to find than the Armageddon Sword! :D

P.S.: In SoD, Armageddon cannot appear in pyramids!

You can disable obelisks and, consequently, the Grail.

It seems that even without obelisks, the Grail still exists. You just have to search the entire map to find it. This was definitely the case in one of the versions, but it's been too long since I checked, so I don't remember.

P.S.: Armageddon cannot appear in the pyramids in SOD!

Have you checked?

It definitely happens in TE, and I don't remember seeing this point in the list of differences from SOD.

Did you check it?

Armageddon on SoD, level 4 ;)

Armageddon on SoD, level 4 ;)

Oops :rolleyes:

It seems that even without obelisks, the Grail still exists. You just have to search the entire map to find it. I'm pretty sure this was the case in one of the versions, but it's been too long since I checked, so I don't remember.

Have you checked?

In The Shadow of Death, it definitely happens, but I don't remember if this was mentioned in the list of differences from Shades of Darkness.

The map format definitely leaves space for the coordinates of the Grail - I tried it myself - it was fun to dig up the Grail on a map where there isn't a single obelisk.

OFFTOP, however...
Guys, what's the actual point?

It seems that even without obelisks, the Grail still exists. You just have to search the entire map to find it. I'm pretty sure this was the case in one of the versions, but it's been too long since I checked, so I don't remember exactly.

Wait, is it also in SoD 3.2??? I should check. It won't take too long to dig on some S-map without a dungeon, considering it's not closer than 10 cells from the edge of the map.

No need anymore!
They already provided an answer on forum.df2.ru
How to disable the Armageddon spell, the Armageddon's Blade spell, and learn all spells in the Conflux with the Grail

1) The "Armageddon's Blade" artifact is disabled on random maps in SoD by default.
2) Disabling the "Armageddon" spell doesn't make sense, as for Conflux and Inferno, it's one of the interesting strategies in the game (difficult to implement) that can be easily countered with a cloak or a critical shot, or an attack slot with antimagic.
3) According to the rules, the Grail can be unearthed after 5 weeks of gameplay, but games usually end around the 3rd or 4th week.