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OFFLINE Tournament "Knights of Honor"




I've been looking at various online resources for offline tournaments... IMHO, many find them inaccessible due to their complex and hard-to-execute rules, deadlines, and the difficulty of organizing and control... All these rules are necessary to avoid unfairness... I want to propose creating a tournament where fairness is established not by tedious rules, seconds, and judges, but by the Honor and Valor of the players themselves! As they say, We gentlemen take each other's word for it. :) In our case, something else will serve as the "word," but without any saves, game chronologies, or arena creation. Of course, not everyone will be able to play this way—most likely only proven forum members. The most important things in such a tournament are honesty and reliability. There will be no prize, of course, so there will be no incentive to behave dishonestly. It's like a game between two friends who are neighbors:
- Look how many points I scored on this map!
- That's nothing... Look how many I have!
- Wow! Well then, I'll beat the record!

As for the reward—that's up to the administration... Make suggestions on how to arrange it! Here is mine:

A list of players is compiled (only the most honest and fair!), the organizer selects maps, posts them one by one, players complete them and send a screenshot of the results showing the map name, player nick (must match the forum nick, and an identification mark issued by the organizer can be added), and points. Places will be awarded based on points. The system could be like this—for example, 8 players play a map, the 4 best results are chosen, those 4 players play the next map, 2 are chosen, and so on. Use of cheats, programs, and non-personal walkthroughs is prohibited. All this, of course, depends on your conscientiousness! I think using game bugs can be allowed, but then we'll need to agree on the game version—choice of SoD3.2, WoG, TE. Or we could ignore the version, since final points depend on the map and player experience! The point calculation formula shall be known to all: (200-(Days+10)/(N+5)+25+25)*difficulity :
where Days is the number of days, N is the number of towns on the map, difficulity is the difficulty level (easy=0.8, normal=1, hard=1.2 (seemingly), expert=1.6, impossible=2), first +25 points—if all enemies were killed, second +25 points—if the grail was dug up
Maximum 500 points. Something like that.

Waiting for your suggestions! Be honest!

Participant list:
Varg-Nar
Firelord
Qwerty
VDV_forever
fanat
Alex_soldier
Ta Kotoraya...
AlexeyPank
Supreme
UTER

The list continues to form, submit your applications.
Regulations of the first Tournament of Honor.
1. The tournament is conducted in three stages. The duration of each stage is 40 days. After this period, saves will not be accepted for consideration. There will be no exceptions!

2. Each stage involves three task-saves. Thus, the total number of tasks is nine, one for each race. The goal is to score the highest number of points while being guided by the SPIRIT, IDEOLOGY, and Rules of the save walkthrough.

3. Competitive events are held on maps of size M and L, with dungeons (M, L) and without them (L). Thus, 3 map size options are possible: M with dungeon, L without dungeon, L with dungeon. Computer opponents play in a union ("alliance"), their number ranging from 3 to 4 depending on the map's characteristics. The final decision regarding the number of opponents, map sizes, as well as terrain features (specifically water areas, mountains, teleports) is made by the tournament Organizers.

4. At the end of each stage, the participant sends winning saves and a screenshot of the "hall of fame." The winning save is made before the final battle. Winning saves should be named as follows: task number player nick points. For example: 1 vbs 500. In the screenshot name, put scr followed by the same as in the save name. The map should be completed under the nick registered in the tournament. Address for winning saves: TKoH@bk.ru

5. A player is entitled to send as many winning saves as they managed to complete. Thus, the number of sent saves can be from 1 to 3.

6. It is MANDATORY to save the message sent with the saves until the results are tallied. This is so that in case of email failure, the player can prove they sent the saves BEFORE the deadline.

7. Within a week after the end of each stage, results for each save are tallied.

8. After the third and final stage, general results are tallied. The results of all the player's winning saves are taken into account. Results are tallied by summing the points obtained during the walkthrough of each save. The tournament winner receives the corresponding title.

9. In case two or more participants score the same number of points, the following additional indicators apply:
1) number of days;
2) main hero's experience;
3) sum of main hero's primary skills without artifacts;
4) sum of primary skills with artifacts.

10. In case one or more players score the same number of points in the general standings, the following indicators apply:
1) "countdown" - arithmetic mean between a system fixing first and last places;
2) total number of days to complete all saves.

11. In case of doubts about the honesty of the walkthrough, the player is OBLIGED to provide a detailed report. Arguments such as "every squad had morale every turn," "all computer players entered Utopia one by one and died there," etc., will not be considered. If a player cannot provide a satisfactory report on the walkthrough, their save will be annulled. In case dishonest play is proven, the player will be excluded from the tournament without the right to participate in Tournaments of Honor for one year. In case of PROVEN use of cheat codes or other known dishonest methods in a final walkthrough, the tournament organizers will submit an ADMIN request to revoke the player's access to the site ("ban").

12. Tournament Organizers reserve the right to disqualify any participant from the tournament. They are not obliged to explain the reasons for such a step or prove that the walkthrough does not match the SPIRIT of the tournament.

Rules of the save walkthrough.
1. When completing a save, one should be guided by the SPIRIT and IDEOLOGY of the tournament and be honest.
2. Save hacking, use of third-party programs ("hero diggers" etc.), as well as the use of cheat codes is strictly prohibited.
3. Prohibited:
3.1. Dishonest play;
3.2. Use of s/l method (specifically "digging out a hero," forcing weekly/monthly growth, etc.);
3.3. Use of any cheat codes regardless of the walkthrough stage, including "map exploration";
3.4. Loading an autosave, specifically "grinding" a result through constant re-plays of each Gameplay.
4. Allowed:
4.1. Replaying the game twice FROM THE VERY beginning in case of losing the map. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt;
4.2. Replaying the map once from the very beginning without explaining reasons. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt.
5. The game is played as if against a live opponent, without constant saves and reloads.
6. I emphasize again specifically: LOADING AN AUTOSAVE, SAVING THE GAME BEFORE A BATTLE, LOADING ANY SAVE OTHER THAN THE STARTING ONE IS UNACCEPTABLE!, as it contradicts the SPIRIT of the Tournament. Only loading a save from a deferred game in case of interruption is allowed. Naturally, verifying this point is impossible, but the presence of Dessa, Crag Hack, Tazar, Solmyr, Cili among heroes and constant growth weeks, as well as taking griffin conservatories without losses, may lead to exclusion from the tournament.
7. In case of violation of the Rules, the player is guaranteed exclusion from the tournament and other "joys of life."

May Honor and Dignity be with you! Glorious Victories!:)


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Deadline for sending winning saves - October 01, 2006, 22:05.
В крови Огонь, а не вода...
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I want to participate in the 2nd tournament, if it's free =0) :D
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If the tournament starts now, at least two participants will be excluded. These are Ta Kotoraya... and VDV_forever. I think it would be unfair to them. But, on the other hand, I want to start earlier. Maybe we can start playing on maps created by the participants, but allow those who are currently excluded to play these maps later?
Has anyone created anything yet? What if there is no editor?
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Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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sign me up as a participant and tell me how to install what I downloaded from this site on my Warriors of the North. I mean:confused:

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I have another question: how do you plan to track down cheaters and fraudsters???

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WHO SHOULD I SUBMIT MY APPLICATION TO???:cool:
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Sign me up as a participant and tell me how to install what I downloaded from this site on my Warriors of the North. I mean:confused:

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I have another question: how do you plan to track cheaters and fraudsters???

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WHO SHOULD I SUBMIT A COMPLAINT TO???:cool:
Read the first post! It's all up to the players' conscience.
Leave a complaint in the same post.
Supreme
Shadow Master - Clan Leader

Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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2 Supreme: These are the third Heroes game! The editor and generator have been there for a long time! And creating a map isn't difficult. You just need to agree on who will create a map with what conditions. I suggest that each person creates a map for the faction they prefer. Then, during a general playthrough, we'll see who is the strongest in all aspects – the master of the game for each faction, with different victory conditions.
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So, will they not provide a single save file, and instead we will play on other people's maps and accumulate points?
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Stop.
I urge the tournament organizers to speak up and create at least some clarity.
The participants have clearly expressed the following questions:
1. When will the tournament start?
2. Which version of the game will be used for the map, and which version should players use?
3. Will there be a separate ranking for each game version, or will there be a general ranking regardless of the version being played? There are the biggest disagreements on this point...
4. Will there be a single save file for everyone, or different ones? In other words, during time trials, can one person run three kilometers cross-country, while another runs a hundred meters?
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So. I’m very glad that Varg-Nar is back – things will move quickly. 1. We can start right now, but you need to decide – should we wait for those who are absent or start now and let them complete the missed rounds of the tournament without any deadlines? 2. Maps for SoD – meaning they will work for SoD (any version!) and WoG, but without WoG-specific features. 3. Here’s the plan. If a map is well-balanced, created not as a quest or RPG, but for battles, then the map will be sent; if the map is RPG-style, then a save file will be sent. 4. And what’s the purpose of the speed competitions? 5. Regarding the schedule –
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I suggest a round duration of three to four weeks. Please submit ONLY the save file, because otherwise, when generating the first save, participants will be in unequal conditions (monsters, artifacts, starting heroes, etc., will change).
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Hello everyone from the far north! I apologize to the tournament participants and once again to Firelord for being absent for some time. (I was forced to - internship)
So, Qwerty, you suggest a period of 3 weeks to a month for each round (for the map), in my opinion, this is too long. Two weeks, I think, would be quite enough. As for saves or a map for the start of the tournament, a starting save will definitely put the players in the same framework at the beginning, so I am more inclined towards using a save... we will think about this issue...
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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What if everyone created a save file for the other participants? That is, they create a map, run it for the first time, save it, and send it to everyone else (or post it here). I suggest that everyone engage in mapmaking so that during the tournament, we can assess the players' strengths in different conditions, playing as different factions with different objectives for victory. IMHO.
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What if everyone creates a save for the other participants? Meaning, he creates a map, launches it for the first time, saves it and sends it to all others (or posts it here). I suggest that everyone engage in Mapmaking so that during the tournament we can evaluate the strength of players under different conditions, playing as different races with different victory objectives. IMHO.

This is certainly an interesting option; the only problem is that not everyone will be able to make a map (if they even want to). And as for the deadline by which the maps would be implemented (made), that would also take a lot of time. Moreover, initially people signed up on the basis that they would Download (whether it's a map or a save) from our beloved portal, and now another little problem is being thrown at them...;)
In any case, AlexeyPank, thank you for your proposal, which reflects your interest in the tournament.:)
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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I'm all for uploading one save file so everyone can play it, and then we can move on to another one.
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If the mapmaking requirement is too complex, I would like to ask the organizers to consider this: organize a tournament in such a way that each race has its own map. This would allow us to assess the strength of the game for all races, and not just for one. If needed, I can offer my services in creating maps (or we can simply use a map generator and then modify them).
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If I understand correctly, a nine-round tournament is being proposed – 9 saves (specifically SAVES) with different starting factions.
The idea is good, but I suggest we think through the deadlines.
I would like more potential participants to express their opinions on the deadlines.
By the way, there is an option to provide three saves and give 6-9 weeks for them instead of providing one save and giving 2-3 weeks for it.
Then various vacations, etc., will not be so critical.
IT'S TIME TO START!
I suggest we urgently move on to the final discussion, and mapmakers can already start their creation.

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