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CTPAHHuK
Lou, does this mean that anyone can edit the map without the author's permission?
Well, no serious changes were made that would affect authorship, especially since that's relevant here. The map was edited for the needs of the tournament – no one was claiming your authorship. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the main changes were made by Zubr (life vs life), and again, if I'm not mistaken, with your agreement as the map's author. The fact that Louchik made some minor corrections – you can read about the script error I described in one of the previous posts – this also doesn't affect your authorship in any way (honestly, I could have done it myself and finished the duel last night, but I decided it wasn't necessary, so I turned to the organizers. And if I had done it, would that also be considered plagiarism?).
This corrected map (the life vs life version) won't go beyond the scope of this forum, or even the tournament.

Moreover, it was done to speed up the tournament, in my opinion, for the benefit of all participants.

P.S. If that's the case, nothing prevents you from deleting the attachment from the post, but we will still finish the tournament using it. Or is that also prohibited?

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Dr Motor
The main changes were made by Zubr (life vs life), and if I'm not mistaken, it was done with your agreement as the map's author.
There was no agreement. But there were my posts after the change was made without any prior agreement. Zubr deleted them. So, it turns out that anyone who is interested can change the map. That's a shame.
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Guys, you can do any kind of tuning on your own BMW. But if the map is for a press event, don't hesitate to ask. If you can't ask, there's always the option of adding a suffix to the title to indicate that the map is no longer original and has been adapted for specific local conditions. For example, all maps for Dungeon presented at offline events are modified and named with the HL suffix. I understand that this may seem like bureaucracy, but please respect the author. Only he has the right to change the version number of the map.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

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Guys, you can do any kind of tuning on your own BMW. But if the map is for a press demo, don't be lazy and ask. If you can't ask, there's always the option of adding a suffix to the name that makes it clear that the map is no longer original and has been adapted for certain local conditions. For example, all maps on the League that are presented offline are modified and named with the HL suffix. I understand that from the outside it looks like bureaucracy, but respect the author. The right to change the version number of the map belongs only to him.

I completely agree with all of this. Zubr, by the way, didn't change the version, he just added to the name (life vs. life). But the fact that Luchik changed the numbers (to be honest, I didn't notice it before) is, of course, a question, but I don't think it was done intentionally - more likely by mistake.
Strannik

There was no agreement. But there were my posts after the change without an agreement. Zubr deleted them. So it turns out that anyone who is interested can change the map. Sad.

Hmm... I didn't know, honestly. I saw deleted posts with the caption "let's go to ICQ" and thought that you had actually come to an agreement.

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Ruslan, I apologize for interfering with the map. :smile39:
It was the first and last time. It won't happen again!
As for what Luchik changed with the numbers (to be honest, I didn't notice it before) - that's certainly a question, but I don't think it was done intentionally - more likely by mistake.
No, it wasn't a mistake. She just wanted the version with the bug to be different from the fixed version.

I'm very sorry. I wanted to do something good, but it turned out the other way around.


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What exactly could we have agreed on when the deed was already done? I simply replied that it was necessary to ask for permission. But instead of an apology, I read a message from Zubr in ICQ: "Hello, comrade organizer, what's the problem?". It's better to be straightforward and admit your mistakes. And there won't be any consequences. Otherwise, you delete my posts, mislead people, and Lu starts editing. Again, the same mistakes.
Lu41k
I just wanted the version with the bug to be different from the fixed version.
If you change the version number, you also need to change the readme file. It contains a log of updates, where the changes of each new version are recorded.

It would have been enough to simply inform me about the changes in advance. I respond quickly to personal messages, ICQ, and email. You can't forbid changing the map. It's just always better when the author is aware of what's going on.
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Lu41k

No, it wasn't a mistake... I just wanted the version with the bug to be different from the fixed version.
Stranger
If you change the version number, you also need to change the readme file. It contains a log of updates, which lists the changes in each new version.


Well... the solution turned out to be completely wrong, because even what Zubr did shouldn't have a different version number, and even more so after this fix.
This was just done for a specific, unusual situation, so there was no reason to change the version number.
Well, here are all the smart people, and I think the incident can now be considered resolved.

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You just needed to let me know about the changes beforehand. I respond quickly to personal messages, ICQ, and email. You can't forbid someone from editing a map. It's just always nicer when the author is aware of what's going on.
I wrote to you on ICQ about the editing and his motives... You were offline, so I thought you'd come online and read it...
Anyway, I apologize again, Ruslan...
I hope this incident is resolved.


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А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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So, the first stage is finally over!

Final
Dr Motor vs snaiper133
2 - 1


Congratulations to the winner Dr Motor on this success.:smile49:

Unfortunately, I must inform you that there will be no second stage of paired games, as there are not enough participants for them:(

Good luck to everyone in the second stage!


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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Guys... I guess nobody wants to play anymore? :(
We don't have much time left.
Maybe we can still get together and finish the game?:)


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А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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We definitely need to finish the game. Contact me on ICQ when you have time, and we'll arrange a game.

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Unfortunately, I didn't manage to finish the tournament over the weekend. In the next 2 weeks, I personally won't have much opportunity to play. Sadly. :(
I suggest closing this tournament and, later, when activity returns to normal, running the 2nd stage again. I hope more participants will join, and people will miss the game. Let's consider the 2nd stage as a warm-up.


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А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Due to a forum bug, ZYbr cannot access HeroesWorld.
Therefore, I am taking matters into my own hands and announcing the closure of the 2nd stage of the "Journey through Axeoth" tournament due to a lack of player activity and the expiration of the tournament deadline.


And now it's time to announce the closure of the HoMM IV Online Duel Tournament "Snowstorm".

I would like to personally thank everyone, on behalf of myself and the organizers, for participating in the tournament and congratulate the winner of the 1st stage, "Summit" - Dr Motor :smile12: Bravo, Alexander! Keep it up! :smile49:
I would also like to personally thank the organizers for their maps and for the tournament as a whole! :smile01:

Duel tournaments are just beginning to develop on our forum, so we are only at the very beginning of this type of competition. I am sure that the next Duel Tournament is just around the corner! :smile02:

Let's play more often, my friends! Let's get active - the hibernation period is over! :smile14:

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."