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I played yesterday with a player from her.bay; on that resource, the TE version of the game rules, in which spells are distributed across magic books differently. At the final stage of the game, the opponent flies over ГО and is supposed to reach my capital on the next turn. Having Earth Expert and TP, I teleport home and replenish my mana. The opponent flies, visits an overview, and a barrage of questions begins about how I got home from the underground. I tell him that once we finish the game, I'll send him the saves for the entire match—let him experiment. On the next turn, I catch up to him and wipe him out in two rounds, enjoying a rain of artifacts—game over. And then the arguments start about how I got home with an expert Town Portal! Because when the opponent loads the multiplayer game, my hero only teleports to the nearest town.

I still couldn't explain to him that because he installed TE, he messed up SoD and now TP probably works for any city with Fire Expert (I think that's how the spell shifted from the Earth book to the Fire book in TE).
Conclusion—well, I don't even know what the conclusion is—after a normal, interesting game, a 30-minute swearing match starts because a super experienced fighter (screaming in ICQ that he knows how to play!!!) doesn't understand the issues caused by different versions....

I'll also add that if the opponent who generates the map has similar version mixing, look for the Slow spell on the second tier of magic (somehow I built 4 first-level towers in game and it wasn't there, but it was hiding on the second).

Good luck in your games to everyone, patience, and mutual understanding
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What's your nickname?

Ideally, if you were playing on SoD (Shadow of Death), and the host made a significant mistake in the settings, decisions regarding such cases are not made in their favor.
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What’s the nickname? In theory, if they played on SoD and the host made a gross mistake in the settings, then decisions on such cases are not made in his favor.

The player apologized, so I don’t think the nickname is needed. I’m just tired of asking the moderators if SoD is mixed with TE… But as they say, there’s a different gaming ideology there, to each their own.
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Hello everyone. My castle is glitching... It turned gray... I reported it to my opponent... The castle glitched right when I was swapping two heroes within the castle. On that turn, I took a city from my opponent with an unredeemed army. My opponent says I'm cheating... That I cheated to take the city for strategic reasons... I have a screenshot and a save file.
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Hello everyone. My castle is glitching... It turned gray... I informed my opponent... The castle glitched right when I was swapping two heroes within the castle. On that turn, I captured a city from my opponent with an unbought army. My opponent says I'm cheating... That I captured the city due to strategic reasons... I have a screenshot and a save file.
I looked at the screenshot; I'll check the save files at home.
I checked the save file; the glitch did occur – I couldn't enter the main castle, and archangels were stationed there... As a judge, I would suggest loading the nearest autosave where the castle is still red.
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В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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Hello. I had a controversial situation when I was playing with SEM-56. Here's what happened. I attacked the enemy Castle with Sepheniroph, defeated the hero Bron who was there, and took over the Castle. Then, with another hero, Gunar, I attacked another enemy hero, Bron, but something happened, and the battle didn't start for the opponent, and I couldn't finish it without the opponent's turn. We loaded the autosave. I attacked the Castle with Sepheniroph again, but I didn't remember all the moves because this battle wasn't very important to me, and the opponent demanded that I make the exact same moves as before. I made two moves differently than the first time, and then he said that because I violated the rules, he would end the game and could either annul it or award me a technical defeat. I suggested that we load the autosave again and he could tell me how to move, or that he could dismiss his hero, whom I defeated in the Castle, and I would spend the amount of mana I used in the battle, disband all the soldiers I lost (0), and take over the Castle. But the opponent didn't agree to that either and said that I had violated the rules and that was it. Now, it seems to me that the most fair option would be for us to load his autosave, I attack his hero Bron with Sepheniroph, defeat him somehow in the Castle, and then spend the unused amount of mana by, for example, scouting the land. After that, I would attack with my hero Gunar against Stig, and we would continue playing. The opponent has the most recent autosave. My option is fair because I get the same amount of experience and lose the same amount of troops and mana as in the battle before the disconnection. The opponent also loses his hero and city. I don't see why we shouldn't continue, especially since the connection was interrupted not during the battle, but after. Maybe I didn't violate anything when I made two different moves, and there's no reason not to finish the game. I also want to say that the battle between Sepheniroph and Bron for the Dungeon isn't very important for the game. I remember the spells I cast: Meteor Shower twice, Blindness once, Restoration three times. If the opponent remembers more accurately, let him say...
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There can only be one solution here: if the opponent insists on replaying turns in a battle that you won without any losses, they should provide a detailed description of the battle's chronology, load the auto-save, and replay the battle until the point of desynchronization.
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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If everything happened exactly as Hermit described, then those players deserve a penalty for such behavior! What is this desire to win at any cost?
And in Hermit's place, I would simply stop playing, due to the direct disrespect shown to the opponent! Very unsportsmanlike!!!! :smile18:
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I see that I am very popular here, so I will be brief:
1. The game with Hermit lasted a very long time; he asked to interrupt the game and continue later, and I agreed...
2. The continuation also took a long time, and it was very drawn out...
3. Regarding the battle, Hermit was right; everything happened as he said. But before the rematch began, I warned him about repeating the same moves, step by step. The opponent seemed to agree, but immediately made a different move. I told him about this, but allowed him to continue (it happens). After that, Hermit again makes two incorrect moves in a row to use less mana. That's all...
Therefore, I refused to continue...
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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If both opponents believe they have a chance to win this game, then there are 2 options:
1st (preferred): if the opponents still have the strength and mutual patience and respect, then agree via instant messaging who should make which moves before the battles, and continue the game;
2nd: upload (each) the latest available save file for judgment.
Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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Yes, he warned me, and I agreed and followed his instructions as closely as I could remember. I don't remember very well... maybe he really remembers better, but if so, let's load the autosave and tell me how to move! I really didn't do it on purpose. Let's say, if you want, I'll spend the amount of mana on surveying the land after the battle that I spend in the battle, and even less if possible. I've listed all the spells I cast. Personally, I can say that when I repeated the game and cast Meteor Shower, the manticore's resistance didn't work – the opponent was just unlucky, but it's not my fault.

At the moment, I'm probably going to lose in the second scenario. But I ask vbn to give me the opportunity to continue the game. It really turned out to be very long, and now I'm in a difficult position, but it's far from hopeless! I still have hope for victory!

Indeed, after starting the game, I got tired and asked for a break, and maybe I'll ask for another one if I mess up again, but why not continue after the break??? Why, if the game is long, can it be abandoned and not finished???
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There is respect for Hermit as a player, but there is absolutely no patience left, considering the length of the game (it's already been 245 turns)!!!
If he wants, we can play the final game, but victory won't be his...
Otherwise, judging by his impatience, the best thing to do is offer a draw and forget about this circus!!!
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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Okay, I agree to a draw.
That's all for this game.

But this will be the first and last time I play on this forum and agree to a draw. And I want to say this to everyone who wants to play against me. And I'm warning you in advance that next time I will play to the end, and all your reasons for me to agree to a draw will be irrelevant. Tomorrow I will write a little more detail about what this means.

Sincerely.
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Your victory is not in sight; I simply don't want to spoil your meager statistics, but for those interested, here are the hero stats:
Tazar 7 24 8 7, expert in armor, tactics, magic resistance, earth, and water...
Troops: 46 Viv Monarchs, 119 Dragonflies, 12 Chaos Hydras, 389 Gnolls, 120 Lizards, 40 Gorgons, 6 Angels...
Sephinroth 18 3 18 6: 15 Minotaurs, 25 Cats, 79 Eyes, 58 Basilisks, 48 Medusas, 5 Angels, 98 Harpies...
The outcome is clear...
Thank you for your attention!!!
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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I suggest that one of the strong players takes Sam's autosave and finishes the game with me, playing as Tazar against Roff. I've already watched my own replay, so anyone who wants to can watch it too. And the parameters for Sephiroth on Monday are (19 4 18 8).

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If everything happened exactly as Hermit described, then Sam deserves a -56 rating for such nonsense! What is this desire to win at any cost?
And in Hermit's place, I would simply refuse to play any further, as a sign of disrespect towards the opponent! It's very unsportsmanlike!!!! :smile18:

Thank you very much for your support, but I'd like to clarify the situation. Sam dogmatically used the rules to end the game not because he felt weaker and was afraid of losing. He was 100% confident in his victory and superiority over me, and I was indeed avoiding direct confrontation with Tazar at that time ("running around" isn't quite the right word), but this game, which seemed so boring and pointless to him, and so on, annoyed him so much that he decided to end it, even in this way, because the prospect of another 4-5 hours of such a game didn't even compensate for the joy of winning against me. That's why I agreed to a draw. But I was still hoping for a victory.

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