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PLEASE, NO ONE BUT THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE DEBATE SHOULD POST ANYTHING HERE! Topic: Can a human be replaced by a machine (computer)? Prizrak is trying to prove that it is impossible. ZYbr is trying to prove that it is possible. Please behave respectfully, as this is just a game:)
Умирает не тот, кто устал, а тот, кто остановился.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
"You have a friend. A good guy, but sometimes he gets on your nerves so much that you want to kill him. What if you replaced him with a smart robot?"
Well, we replace our friend with a robot, and we gain obedience and agreeableness. When you're bored, he can entertain you, and when you want to be alone, you can just turn off the robot, and that's it. He will always listen, always agree if needed, and always support you."
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
But we also get a minus – lack of soul and insensitivity... Who is a robot without these qualities? How can you communicate with it normally? No way, just hello, goodbye, etc....
always agree if required, always support
Thereby depriving the child of life experience, because we are not always ready for the difficulties ahead, something sometimes should not work out;)... This is what builds character.
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"You have a friend. A good guy, but sometimes he gets on your nerves so much that you want to kill him. Wouldn't it be better to replace him with a smart robot?"(c)
And in the end, any machine can break down.
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And we also get a negative – a lack of soul and insensitivity. Who is a robot without these qualities? How can you communicate with it normally? It's impossible, just hello, goodbye, etc....
Well, that already depends on perception. There will always be someone who doesn't notice this insensitivity, or, on the contrary, someone who thinks that the robot understands them, etc. (I remember in my early childhood, I used to talk to a soft toy, and it seemed to me that it sympathized with me.)
Thereby depriving the child of life experience, because we are not always ready for the difficulties that lie ahead; sometimes, things should not work out. This is what builds character.
We program it to agree or disagree in certain cases. We set an algorithm, i.e.
And in the end, any machine can break down.
A broken machine can be repaired, but if a human friend "breaks down," you experience more sad feelings. A robot has immortality.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
No, not immortality... Let's imagine for a moment that there's an energy crisis around the world... And if the robot simply shuts down, that would also cause a lot of sadness. All machines are too demanding – they are energy-dependent, lack empathy (no matter how you look at it, you can't insert a soul), and there are many other issues... It's impossible to teach a robot to think properly (at least in the next 20 years), and what if you ask a question that the robot doesn't know the answer to? A person can somehow find a way out, but with a robot, it's clear... We would deprive humanity of normal communication; people would simply become uncivilized... A robot that a child never receives a refusal from will somehow survive, but this child, when faced with the real world, will simply be unprepared for it...
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
The theme is reminiscent of the movie "Alien vs. Predator." P.S. I'll try not to post anything else here.
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ. Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
Let's imagine for a moment that there's an energy crisis affecting the entire world... And that the robot simply shuts down, and that's it.
Well, that's just a specific case. You could just as easily consider a situation where a human friend doesn't live very long.
I'm only considering general things. For example, a robot will never get tired. Then, as a child, it can watch over them around the clock, play with them whenever they want. If you think this will spoil the child, then, please, we can program the robot to play with the child for no more than 2 hours, for example.
You can't teach a robot to think properly.
And what does "thinking" entail? The ability to find an answer to a given question? Then, a robot can think better than anyone else, and its "thinking" speed is much higher. I agree that it's impossible to achieve originality in thinking, but the number of processed mental operations will significantly exceed human thinking abilities. A robot is rationalism. It lacks a creative element. But rationalism is also a good thing. The ability to find the most optimal solution to a problem.
We will deprive humanity of normal communication; people will simply become savage.
Why would they become savage? On the contrary, we provide the robot with a powerful knowledge base so that it can support any conversation, and people will be far from savage. They will also chat about various topics, but the only difference will be in the conversational partner.
A robot that a child never receives a refusal from will somehow manage, but this child, when faced with the real world, will simply be unable to adapt to it...
Honestly, I don't understand what you mean by that. I've already said that any program can be introduced into a robot; it only depends on imagination.
By the way, human upbringing doesn't always prepare a child for the real world either
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Yeah, it's fine. Being engrossed in the game replaced socializing.
But you've strayed from the topic. My eccentricities aren't relevant to the subject.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
the ability to find an answer to a given question? then the robot can think like no other, and its "thinking" speed is much higher.
Millions of operations will have to be loaded into its "head," which is very expensive, and it is also impossible to record everything, and artificial intelligence has not yet been created, and it will not be created anytime soon;)...
Yes, it's okay)) being engrossed in a game replaced communication.
No, it's just that I'm not like that:), that's why I asked, I can stay alone for a long time, but I feel uncomfortable, I want to talk, to unwind...
And in general, all machines are quite unpredictable, as Major Vikhr said;)... He might just malfunction and start doing something to a child that is just... (Forum rules)
I don't understand how you can sit and talk to a piece of metal??? When you communicate with living people, you feel their emotions, facial expressions, etc. But a robot has an aluminum face, 2 LEDs, and a loudspeaker...
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
He would have to store millions of operations in his head, which is very expensive, and it is also impossible to record everything, and artificial intelligence has not yet been created, and it will not be created anytime soon...
Well, no one has set any time limits for us here) so, if there is an opportunity to create artificial intelligence, let the robots have it:)
And in general, all machines are quite unpredictable, as Major Whirlwind said... He might just mess up and start doing something to a child that is just...
People also make mistakes, and sometimes it is harder to forgive them;)
I don't understand at all how you can sit and talk to a piece of metal??? When you communicate with living people, you feel their emotions, facial expressions, etc. But a robot has an aluminum face, 2 LEDs, and a loudspeaker...
But you can talk more openly, you are not constrained by their gaze, etc. Isn't that possible?;)
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
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