Is diplomacy necessary? — In the Wake of Gods / WOG / ERA

Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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Tador;158181

In the Castle, you usually recruit the main troops, and then it depends on what you get. If a good army joins you, which will be useful for the hero in battle, you can replace the weaker creatures in the hero's army with it.
In general, there are as many opinions as there are people.

In the Castle, you recruit fodder so that monsters will attack! When 50 TITANS are ready to join you for free (as everyone knows, TITANS are cool :D), you'll start to wonder why you even need your own Castle, except maybe to build a guild of mages :-)

The Death Knight

18 years ago

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If you're playing as Necropolis, it makes sense to take the first-tier monsters and convert them into skeletons using the Skeleton Transformation spell. In general, Diplomacy is only useful at the beginning. Later on, in large battles, it becomes meaningless. Overall, I consider Diplomacy to be a useless skill for me, and the aforementioned reasons are just minor advantages of it.

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Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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The Death Knight;158436

If you're playing as Necropolis, it makes sense to take the initial monsters and level them up using the Skeleton Converter spell. In general, Diplomacy is only useful at the beginning. Later on, in large battles, it becomes meaningless. Overall, I consider Diplomacy to be a useless skill for me, and the aforementioned reasons are just minor advantages.

In what large battles is this the case? How many months are you planning to play? 10? For example: a hero descends into a dungeon, recruits, say, 120 Demons, 30 Naga Queens, 59 Mighty Gorgons, 25 Titans, 45 Catapults, 200 Magogs, and 17 Angels... By the end of the first month, all of this comes to you.
Question: how (or what) are you going to use to keep all of this without Diplomacy?

The Death Knight

18 years ago

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That's complete nonsense. To have even the weakest of the mentioned creatures join you, you need a large army. And by the end of the first month, you won't have that. Besides, even if you had all of that, any experienced player would easily defeat you. At most, 1-2 monsters from your entire army will move per turn. Moreover, when I played with one person on an L-map, by the end of the second month, there were no monsters left on the map; we were destroying them all to gain levels and upgrade commanders and creatures. Furthermore, I can't understand where you're getting these numbers from. I'm eliminating monsters of level 7-8 in Haven by the second week. You're either playing poorly, playing on an easy difficulty, or playing on some custom-made maps. Overall, you're providing some unclear and inaccurate reasons. I've said everything I wanted to say.

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Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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Ha-ha-ha!! You're still talking! You were the one whose monsters got destroyed :D I was actually playing with professionals, if you must know! And diplomacy is forbidden during gameplay!! Read the reports about online games! And about what would happen if you play using diplomacy!!!

Here’s a specific example of a game!
/topic/at/145546/

Ask anyone! Although, maybe don't bother asking! It's clear to me who you are!!!! :smile18:

Ley

18 years ago

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2 The Death Knight:
actually, just follow the link. There you will find all the information. I don't think you will deny the fact that pros don't play with diplomacy; the question is: why?
If you think about it logically, diplomacy gives too much of an advantage, IMHO. There's no point in arguing about it.

It's easier to just accept it and use it to your advantage ;).

Sincerely.

AmberSoler

18 years ago

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Diplomacy, when implemented effectively, can determine the outcome of the game... Monsters of level 7 sometimes join on the second week – you just need to understand HOW this is done... How the game will progress further is quite obvious...

The Death Knight

18 years ago

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Dirty Player Ignore. I mentioned the reason in another thread.
Ley Thanks, but we play with friends. And we don't have any special rules. We just don't use Diplomacy, and if someone wants to, they can. I don't see any advantages. Having a lot of strong creatures in one army without the Alliance of Angels is a direct path to defeat. Morale - 3 is not enough for good.
Best regards.

RAPER

18 years ago

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Having many powerful creatures in one army without the presence of the Haven faction is a direct path to defeat. The moral of the story is that good doesn't always win.

Well, I don't know... of course, if you play for 5-6 months, then yes, there will be enough different creatures, etc.
When playing online, a small number of creatures (even just one type) is enough to put up some resistance... and morale of 3 can happen, but don't forget about leadership and various high-morale items, such as an amulet (+3 morale + 3 luck). So, you just need to play skillfully with diplomacy.

The Death Knight

18 years ago

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Of course, but they are not always available, and Leadership is also not always granted at the beginning. And morale affects many things.

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Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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The Death Knight;158744

Of course, but they are not always available, and Leadership is also not always given at the beginning. And morality affects a lot.

For those who don't understand! There is a hero named Ryland, a ranger, with a specialization in Dendroids. He starts with Basic Leadership and Basic Diplomacy. We start with Rampart and go to collect monsters! If the opponent doesn't have diplomacy, VICTORY IS OURS!! THAT'S IT!!

P.S.: There are, of course, fixed maps where all monsters are wild (never join), but I think everyone understands that this is an exception, and we are talking about random_maps.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

18 years ago

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Dirty_Player;158761

Riland

Not Riland, but Roland:p

Now it's clear who you are!!!! :smile18:

You have no right to insult him or anyone else.:mad:

RAPER

18 years ago

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my off-topic

Not Ryland, but Roland.

I'll make a discovery... about America... in different versions, he is called differently (different translations), and it's not just him. The same thing happens with the gender of Kiryushkin... in one version, it's a woman, in another, it's a man... that's one thing. two - enough off-topic in this thread =)

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Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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monarh;159002

Not Ryland, but Roland:p

Why say something if you don't know it??? :smile35: In the original, that is, in English, it is written Ryland
Now let's all think and read!!!!!

Ta Kotoraya...

18 years ago

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Hmm... for some reason, it seems to me that there are 2 heroes - Ryland and Roland... I need to check - because I can't be sure ;)
It seems like one is from the Rampart - using woodcutters... the other is from the Castle - using swordsmen (I might be terribly mistaken - if something is wrong, please forgive me) :)

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