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FOURTH OFFLINE HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC I "CAMPAIGN" TOURNAMENT


TOURNAMENT RULES


1. To participate in the fourth offline Heroes of Might and Magic I "CAMPAIGN" tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and submit an application in this thread.

2. The tournament is conducted using the Russian version of Heroes of Might and Magic I from Buka. Saves will be generated on the Russian version 1.1.

3. The tournament will consist of 8 stages, as that is how many campaign maps were created by the developers. The goal of the game is to defeat the enemy or fulfill a specific condition within each individual scenario.
- Upon completion of each stage, a player rating will be awarded, which will accumulate with each subsequent successful completion of a stage.
- A reward will be given for each stage (in the profile and under the avatar), thereby providing an incentive for the player at every stage.
- The overall winner of this tournament (across all stages) receives a prize in the form of a trophy (in the profile and under the avatar).
- This is a rated tournament, so you should start earning your rating now, as the highest-rated player on our site at the end of the year will receive a separate prize in the form of an absolute winner's trophy, as well as an honorary certificate sent by mail.

4. Results will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time. If several players have identical completion times, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING EQUIPPED ARTIFACTS of the player's best hero; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

5. The list of prohibitions can be read in the thread:

Offline Tournament Rules + FAQ!, or on the website www.handbookhmm1.narod.ru

6. Send saves to the email address VDV_forever@BK.RU

The submitted save must contain the tournament number (4), the stage number, the participant's number in the application table, the stage abbreviation (for the first stage P - PROLOGUE), and the player's Nick.

Example:

4_1_1_П_VDV_forever.CGM


7. In case a player is suspected of cheating or other malicious intent while completing the map, it is necessary to save every game day, as well as before and immediately after a difficult battle.
In such an event (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to the tournament organizer to determine whether the play was fair or unfair.
The result of a player who played unfairly will be nullified, and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also reflect poorly on their reputation.

8. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically disqualify themselves from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

9. The first stage of the tournament starts on October 6 and lasts until October 20 (inclusive!) 2007. Results will be announced on October 23, 2007.

The second stage of the tournament starts on October 23 and lasts until November 11 (inclusive!) 2007. Results will be announced on November 14, 2007.

The third stage of the tournament starts on November 26 and lasts until December 10 (inclusive!) 2007. Results will be announced on December 14, 2007.

The fourth stage of the tournament starts on January 12, 2008, and lasts until February 1 (inclusive!) 2008. Results will be announced on February 4, 2008.

The fifth stage of the tournament starts on March 13, 2008, and lasts until April 13 (inclusive!) 2008. Results will be announced on April 16, 2008.

The sixth stage of the tournament starts on May 26, 2008, and lasts until June 20 (inclusive!) 2008. Results will be announced on June 23, 2008.

The seventh stage of the tournament starts on July 7, 2008, and lasts until August 7 (inclusive!) 2008. Results will be announced on August 13, 2008.
Note - this stage of the tournament is also conducted as part of the annual Van Kanigem tournament (Stage 6 of the Van Kanigem tournament).

The eighth stage of the tournament starts on September 20, 2008, and lasts until October 20 (inclusive!) 2008. Results will be announced on October 23, 2008.

10. After your save is received, you will see in the application table that:

save accepted - indicated by a bold Nick.
save counted - indicated by a blue bold Nick.
save not counted - indicated by a red bold Nick.
This list can be expanded by new participants!
We invite everyone to participate in the tournament!

Saves will only be considered for players who are in this table, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

Tournament Participants:

PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICK
1 :o
2 Kamikaze
3 RAPER
4 Alex_R
5 ewgeniy
6 GRAMM
7 Kolb@zzer
8 Sage
9 Арчибальт
10 Lisichka
11 Starhan
12 Psixxx
13 OlegRS
14 Koren Zla
15 Inquisitor
16 Nzol
17 BigAke
18 Catch
19 Romanuel
20 Ley
21 Lord Vampire
22 Ник 1
23 Andrey44_44
24 Oblion
25 SEM_56
26 WishmasteR
27 Fireball
All about starting saves

Starting saves for stages
from 26.11.07 download save:
map from which the save was generated:
standard

Sequence of actions:

1.Download the save.

2.The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes of Might and Magic I.

3.Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4.After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.

5.A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If provided, the best ones will be published in the thread: "Hall of Fame own our best heroes"!

6.Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

7.Wait for the results.

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time playing and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.S.S. If there are any additions or comments, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings in the same process of conducting the tournament.
Respectfully, VDV_forever
Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:
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The save files of the respected Catch were analyzed, and it was concluded that when the turn transitions from the 4th to the 5th day, the computer does not act as it should according to Catch (i.e., the save file does not reflect reality).
I am familiar with such situations where the computer indeed does not act as it logically should.
Based on my experience, I can say that in such situations, when a computer, superior in strength (and even a weaker one), is left completely alone and without a Castle, it will attack a Castle with a 90% probability, especially when it is within its reach. It may not attack only in two cases:
1) The opponent's strength significantly exceeds its own.
2) A game glitch (which may be the case here with the English version of the game).

Since in Heroes 1, the computer's moves when skipping a turn are strongly influenced by the actions of the first player (the computer), the actions of the Barbarian in this case are absolutely logical and consistent:

When skipping a turn, the yellow player, left alone, attacks a less powerful opponent (red) and captures its Castle. The Barbarians scatter in different directions so that they cannot be reached in one game day.

Despite my respect for Catch, I was unable to achieve the situation where the yellow player does not attack the knight and does not capture its Castle, for the reasons mentioned above, and numerous replays with skipping a turn only confirmed my assumptions, so Catch's save file was not accepted.
//I am not considering the situation with the computer's inaccessibility to the player in this case//

P.S. Of course, I know how to make the yellow player not attack and not take its Castle, but I think that Catch is not a cheater; he simply encountered a glitch or bug that is present in the English version of the game.

Well... I did play on the English version, so formally, I violated the rule stating that I should play on the Book version. But... I disagree that the computer's moves in my version are called a glitch or bug, as this usually affects localized versions, and it is more logical to consider the computer's scattering in the Book version as a glitch or bug. And secondly... if it were impossible to make 5 days pass on the Book version, I would have asked not to accept my save file, but, as Nzol showed, this is possible, and I think that I would have achieved the same result on the Book version. In the English version, I also had to struggle a lot to make the computers act exactly like that.

P.S. Yes... one more thing. Before this tournament, I didn't know that the computer's moves in the original and Book versions are so different; doubts arose only after completing the playthrough. Before that, I played in various tournaments, both on one and the other versions, and did not notice any differences, so, not having the opportunity to play on the Book version, I played on the English version without any ulterior motive.
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Yesterday, the website wasn't working since morning, and I only got home now. My head is pounding from the hangover. I'll be back to normal closer to the evening and will send the save files. There are just so many of them that I need to spend some time finding and matching the right beginning and continuation.
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Well, as usual, I'm last, my streak is 9 days.
I can't bring myself to replay the tournaments for the first Heroes game.
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Well, as usual, I'm last, my score is 9 days.
I can't bring myself to replay Tournaments with 1st-level heroes.

Not at all ;) The results have already been posted here:

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Hooray, second to last place!
I'm curious about which hero was chosen; it seems like my main hero had better stats.
Or does the organizer choose the hero himself?
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Dear participants! I also have the English version, but I play on the Bukovskaya New Year's version (I spent 450 rubles in December :)). After testing the saves of the respected Catch on my Bukovskaya version, I also could not achieve the desired result. But when I loaded the save on the English DOS version, Atlas, for some reason, turns south about once every 4 attempts when transitioning from the third day to the fourth :confused:, but it does turn! I certainly don't claim to be a grandmaster in recognizing cheats and bugs, but I think that if you replay all the moves according to Catch's strategy, Atlas will run down again. Here is my analysis of the situation!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like to note the radical difference in the movement of computer players on different versions. In particular, the moment when, in the original English version, the heroes do not leave any "brakes" (orcs, dwarves, centaurs) in the castles is very telling. In Bukovskaya 1.1, the heroes try to accelerate, like experienced offline players ;)

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I would like to note the radical difference in how computer-controlled players move in different versions.
It is especially evident when, in the original English version, the heroes do not hesitate (Orcs, Dwarves, Centaurs) when moving within castles. In HotA 1.1, the heroes try to accelerate, like experienced offline players ;)

I also tested it and noticed this :) But! Only the starting heroes leave Orcs, Dwarves, and Centaurs behind. The ones hired later run with them just fine :)
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Now, let's talk about the tournament that just ended.

First and foremost, the good news is that we gathered the maximum number of participants – 9 people. That's great.
Furthermore, all participants showed more or less acceptable results.
There was an incident, but perhaps the organizer will reconsider their decision.
I want to note the likely victory of Nzol, as well as the excellent result of Romanuel.

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As of today, in the clan ranking for this tournament, E Pluribus Unum is in the lead with 544 points. 2. Homo Homini - 529 3. Order of Phoenix - 352 4. Gods - 68

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Overall, it's quite satisfying... satisfying because if I had the time, I would have tried a variation where I capture another artifact in the lower right corner. So, I wasn't expecting a great result. But the thing is, I just couldn't manage to complete it in 6 days using a different strategy. The blue hero was hiding behind the necromancer's town. And even though it seemed like all the castles could be taken, I just couldn't manage to capture all three heroes. After many days of attempts, I abandoned that idea. In short, if the winner posts their save files, at least after the final day and the victory, I would be very grateful. It's always useful to learn from the masters.

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And Catch's save files would also be of great interest, I think. I thought that Alex_R was the only one who excelled in terms of overall results on the portal. And here, two people are playing a day faster!!! Awesome.

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And also, why is Nzol's victory considered "presumed"? Could it be that there's some kind of clan rivalry going on?... Then the save files are simply necessary to clear his name from these accusations.
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and the saves from Catch, I believe, are also of undeniable interest. I thought that Alex_R was the only one on the portal who was a master in terms of total results. And here, 2 people play faster in a day!!! Awesome.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to upload the saves until later this evening; I'm already at work, where I don't have them. But if Kamikaze has the opportunity to upload them earlier, then let him do it.

and also - why is Nzol's victory considered a foregone conclusion? Is there some kind of clan rivalry going on?... then the saves are simply necessary to clear his good name from the accusations.

I think it was written that way only because Kamikaze is probably hoping that my result will still be counted. There are no suspicions at all, and there cannot be. But Nzol will be first in any case, since my total parameter score is 11.

I'm uploading the saves.
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I think it was written that way simply because Kamikaze is probably hoping that my result will still be counted. There's no talk of any suspicions, and there can't be. But Nzol will be first in any case, since my total parameter score is 11.

No, not for that reason. I predicted his victory :o, when I realized that the limit for this map is 5 days (as you may have noticed, everyone captured the castles on day 5), and I only managed 6.
But, the truth is, I really hope that Catch's result will be counted. It's 95 points for the E Pluribus Unum team :smile01:

to Romanuel:
I suggest you join a clan, at your own discretion. Because with your results, you would help any of the clans on our portal ;)

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