Skip to content

Posts from Discussion about Sylvan (Wood Elves).

4.2 (5 ratings)
In reply to WitcheR-L
User Avatar
#707
Auto-translated
WitcheR-L;148534

Nonsense, utter nonsense! In the first few weeks, everyone knows that Necropolis will be the dominant faction. What? 1 week, 70 vampires???? How??? Explain to me how you'll gather 70 vampires at level 8????
If everything works out well, meaning there's a vampire outpost on the map and it's vampire week, then you can gather 70 even at level six... But that's just a dream.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
User Avatar
#708
Auto-translated
ValgallaWolf
If everything works out well, meaning there's a Vampire outpost on the map, and it's Vampire Week, then you can gather 70 units even at level 6... But that's just a dream.
This kind of situation happens in the game, but not on all maps, and not always; it's just an incredibly rare chance, like 1 in 10,000, compared to the Lich.
P.S. Don't think I'm defending my own opinion; I used to play as Necropolis, and I know what's what!


User Avatar
#709
Auto-translated
Well, 70 vampires cost a significant amount of mana, and at level 8, you can only recruit a limited number per week. As a result, all the mana will be spent on small increases in the number of vampires, so by that time, there will be more elven archers, plus light magic, buffs, and the vampires won't have it easy. Of course, you can hire a few extra necromancers, but that's an unnecessary expense, and the elves won't require it. Again, this is just my opinion; if I'm wrong, please correct me.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
User Avatar
#710
Auto-translated
I mostly agree with everything, but the undead are very cheap. For comparison, all Sylvan units are 60 coins more expensive than Necropolis units (nymphs are 15 more, archers and liches are 50 more), except for messengers. So, calculate how much you save with this, and you'll get a couple of extra heroes. But still, the undead are too strong. Sylvan easily defeats them.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
#711
Auto-translated
And let's not forget that to raise vampires, you need to defeat creatures that can be turned into vampires. And these aren't just levels 1-2, which you can easily defeat at the start; these are more serious creatures, and to defeat them, you need to have a decent army. So, I think our friend Laksti exaggerated a bit.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
In reply to ValgallaWolf
User Avatar
#712
Auto-translated
ValgallaWolf;148509
Peasants are very useful, considering that you can level them up into archers (even if there are few of them), and they also bring in money (+Elaine). As for Minotaurs... Dancers will take them out faster... And after the archers, there will be nothing left of the Furies, so in the early levels (if the Warlock doesn't have strong spells, then Dungeon is weaker in my opinion).
Peasants as a unit are useless in themselves. To upgrade them, you need to find money + then upgrade them, which costs even more money, and by the time you do that, it's no longer the beginning of the game. Will Dancers take out Minotaurs? Level 2 against a level 3 tank? Yes, the Dancers will take a beating from the counterattack and then the Minotaur's simple attack will follow. Of course, nothing will remain of the Furies against the archers, but they aren't archers either, so it's incorrect to compare them. Not much will remain of them against the Dancers either.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
In reply to Vayshan
User Avatar
#713
Auto-translated
Vayshan;148708
Peasants as a unit are useless on their own. To upgrade them, you need to find money and then upgrade them again, which costs even more money, and by the time you do all that, it's no longer the beginning of the game. Will Dancers defeat Minotaurs? Level 2 against a level 3 tank? The Dancers will take a lot of damage from the counterattack and then the Minotaurs' regular attack will follow. Of course, nothing will remain of the Furies against Archers, but they aren't Archers either, so it's not a fair comparison. Not much will remain of the Dancers either.

The Dancers won't defeat the Minotaurs, but with the defense bonus for moving through a cell, they will hold out well, especially if buffed. I would use the Minotaurs as a distraction while the Archers attack the Furies, and then switch to the Minotaurs with the rest of the units. Besides, there will still be Dryads left, who won't take much damage from the counterattack. Another obstacle for the Minotaurs on their way to the Archers, although a small one.
Regarding the fact that the Undead are cheaper, yes, that's true, but if you consider the ratio of Stronghold units and a couple of additional Necropolis heroes at the beginning for Dark Energy and a certain number of troops, the Stronghold units will pay for themselves much sooner. They will be better at defending mines than the small increase in Dark Energy from two level 6 heroes.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
In reply to Vayshan
User Avatar
#714
Auto-translated
Vayshan;148708
Peasants as a unit are useless on their own. To upgrade them, you need to find money + then upgrade them again, which costs even more money, and by the time you do all that, it's no longer the beginning of the game. Will Dancers cut down Minotaurs? Level 2 against a level 3 tank? Yes, Dancers will take a beating from the counterattack and then the Minotaurs' regular attack will follow. Of course, nothing will remain against Archers, but they aren't Archers, so it's incorrect to compare. Not much will remain from the Dancers either.
I'm telling you, they will cut them down!!! 70 Dancers with Wind and Luck will cut down 70 Minotaurs!!! (and Luck will most likely work, while Luck is rare in Dungeon).
Are you saying that Peasants are a useless unit? Apparently, you've never been stunned by them. Will Dancers take a beating from the counterattack? Well, what kind of defense will they have? So they will cut them down easily.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
User Avatar
#715
Auto-translated
They won’t cut it down. Then, you need incredibly high luck, maxed out, plus some kind of lucky charm, and then they will often deal double damage. But since we are talking about the early levels, a little bit of luck won’t help much against Minotaurs. By the way, I wouldn’t say that Warlocks have problems with luck; I think it’s fine. I always level up luck for Warriors, and there’s also a lucky Wizard, which is a very good bonus for a Warlock.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
#716
Auto-translated
A little off-topic. Luck can be increased for any race without much difficulty, except for Necropolis. Necropolis has a 2% chance of luck increasing, while Academy has 15%, and the rest have 8%. And Warlocks with luck appear quite often. The stunning attack of the militia is certainly powerful, but it doesn't happen very often. And in battle, you shouldn't rely on them as a serious force. Most other level 1 units directly contribute much more in battle.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
In reply to Майор Вихрь
User Avatar
#717
Auto-translated
Major Whirlwind; 148741
Just a little off-topic. Luck can be leveled up for any race without much difficulty, except for the Necropolis. The Necropolis has a 2% chance of it dropping, the Academy has 15%, and the rest have 8%. And Warlocks with luck appear quite often. The stunning attack of the militia is certainly powerful, but it doesn't happen very often. And in battle, you shouldn't rely on them as a serious force. Most other level 1 units directly contribute much more in battle.

I'm not saying they're super amazing, but I'm just proving that you can't dismiss them.
Also, with Warlocks, I'm not saying that they can't level up their luck, but I'm saying that if they get constant luck (and they will), then it will appear much earlier for the light factions. This is what I'm trying to prove: that dancers with buffed defense will defeat Minotaurs.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
User Avatar
#718
Auto-translated
Dancers are still a somewhat situational unit when fighting Minotaurs (although they are my favorite unit in terms of appearance). Minotaurs simply have more hit points. And you can't rely on luck 100%. Also, the possibility of increasing true luck by 1% has been confirmed (I've tested it many times).
In reply to Dracon Малласа
User Avatar
#719
Auto-translated
Dracon Mallasa;148760
Dancers are still a relatively weak unit when fighting Minotaurs (although they are my favorite unit in terms of appearance). Minotaurs simply have more hit points. And you can't rely 100% on luck. Also, the ability to permanently increase luck by 1% (I've checked this many times)
You are confusing permanent and true luck... Permanent luck is easy to obtain, and you can rely on it; in addition, you can add the Elven +25% from the Elven special ability, which is easily acquired (play Ossir in a duel, and you'll understand that you can still rely on permanent (NOT TRUE) luck.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
User Avatar
#720
Auto-translated
Yes, you can rely on it, but as I understand it, we are talking about the early stages, and it will hardly be possible to fully develop luck. And even if it is possible, there is a chance of losing other valuable skills.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
User Avatar
#721
Auto-translated
True luck is a great super ability... it looks especially good on a Winged creature, but there are still better build options.