Posts from [HMM II TOURNAMENT OFF] New Year Arena - 2008

29 days would be a better duration for the arena on this map. The intended ideas would be easier to implement, the arenas would be more interesting, and, paradoxically, less real time would be spent.

Alright.
All previous posts that create a negative atmosphere will be deleted.
Regarding Alex_R's skill level: he is a strong player, as proven by his performances in tournaments. His skill level places him in the top twenty players in the Russian-speaking community. Please believe me, your self-proclaimed mega-expert (just kidding) - he knows how to play. And I ask that you treat him with respect.
Dust is one of the strongest players in the Russian-speaking community. And I ask that you treat him with respect.
In general, colleagues, with such a grand event - the consolidation of the Heroes community - mutual bickering seems rather inappropriate.
Let's respect each other.

Dear colleagues, I propose the following: Please independently edit the posts, removing all contentious points from them (including from quotes). At the same time, I would like you to also remove any demoralizing comments. I would prefer not to resolve this issue by deleting posts; I am counting on a constructive approach. We are all working towards a common goal...

Colleagues. At the moment, I see the situation as follows. I know and respect Alex_R. I know and respect Dust. I see three possible paths for further development. 1. All interested parties meet in a neutral chat, such as on Mail.ru, and calmly discuss everything. I can act as an arbitrator. This option seems preferable to me. 2. All posts related to this are moved to another section. 3. All posts related to this are deleted. I cannot post the results of the participants after such posts because I am very concerned about this situation. I repeat once again, both Alex_R and Dust are important to me, and I don't want to lose anyone. I hope for understanding and a prompt, constructive response.

Dust.

Ranlu the Necromancer

Attack 7
Defense 7
Spell Power 17
Knowledge 8

Expirience 37622
Level 15

Mana Points 80 / 80
Morale -2
Luck +3

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
2339 skeletons (14388.3585)
1 gargoyles (17.5450)
14 crusaders (2469.9360)
7 bone dragons (2491.1495)
28 zombies (263.0180)
(19630.0070 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Pathfinding, Logistics, Wisdom, Luck, Necromancy,
ADVANCED: Diplomacy,
BASIC: Mysticism,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Thunder Mace (+1 Attack)
Power Axe (+2 Attack)
Divine Breastplate (+3 Defense)
Traveler's Boots of Mobility (increase movement on land)
Black Pearl (+2 Spell Power, +2 Knowledge)
Spell Scroll (ability to cast special spell)
Staff of Wizardry (+5 Spell Power)
Spade of Necromancy (increase necromancy skill)

Spells:
5 level: Mirror Image, Dimension Door,
4 level: Chain Lightning, Mass Slow,
3 level: Fireball, Teleport, Anti-Magic, Death Wave, Animate Dead,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin, Disrupting Ray, Dragon Slayer, View Artifacts,
1 level: Haste, Slow, Bless, Stoneskin, Curse, Dispel Magic, Shield, View Mines.

PReDS.

Rialdo the Necromancer

Attack 8
Defense 3
Spell Power 8
Knowledge 9

Expirience 56478
Level 18

Mana Points 90 / 90
Morale -1
Luck +2

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
2743 skeletons (16873.5645)
16 liches (1003.1440)
11 bone dragons (3914.6635)
50 zombies (469.6750)
6 gargoyles (105.2700)
(22366.3170 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Pathfinding, Logistics, Wisdom, Eagle Eye, Necromancy, Estates,
ADVANCED:
BASIC: Mysticism, Luck,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Thunder Mace (+1 Attack)
Gambler's Lucky Coin (luck +1)
Ankh (double effectiveness of Resurrect and Animate spells)
Black Pearl (+2 Spell Power, +2 Knowledge)
Spade of Necromancy (increase necromancy skill)

Spells:
5 level: Dimension Door,
4 level:
3 level: Teleport, Death Wave, Animate Dead,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin, Disrupting Ray,
1 level: Cure, Haste, Slow, Stoneskin, Curse, Dispel Magic, Magic Arrow, View Mines.

SDV.

Natasha the Sorceress

Attack 6
Defense 3
Spell Power 14
Knowledge 9

Expirience 27866
Level 14

Mana Points 180 / 90
Morale +3
Luck +1

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
3 red dragons (2087.4540)
2 gargoyles (35.0900)
1 gargoyles (17.5450)
2 gargoyles (35.0900)
14 black dragons (11939.8790)
(14115.0580 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Logistics, Navigation, Wisdom,
ADVANCED: Archery, Mysticism,
BASIC: Scouting, Luck, Estates,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Witches Broach (+3 Spell Power)
Medal of Courage (morale +1)
Medal of Honor (morale +1)
Medal of Distinction (morale +1)
Thunder Mace (+1 Attack)
Book of Elements (doubles effectiveness of summoning spells)
Black Pearl (+2 Spell Power, +2 Knowledge)
Spell Scroll (ability to cast special spell)

Spells:
5 level: Summon Water Elemental, Dimension Door,
4 level:
3 level:
2 level: Dragon Slayer,
1 level: Cure, Haste, Slow, Bless, Stoneskin, Magic Arrow, View Resources.

Catch.

Fineoz the Barbarian

Attack 9
Defense 10
Spell Power 8
Knowledge 3

Expirience 43531
Level 16

Mana Points 15 / 30
Morale +0
Luck +0

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
56 elves (940.1000)
999 skeletons (6145.3485)
55 gargoyles (964.9750)
-
5 red dragons (3479.0900)
(11529.5135 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Archery, Logistics, Diplomacy,
ADVANCED: Pathfinding, Scouting, Leadership,
BASIC: Wisdom, Estates,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Divine Breastplate (+3 Defense)
Ice Cloak (-50% damage from enemy cold spells)
Staff of Wizardry (+5 Spell Power)

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level: Mass Dispel, Paralyze,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin,
1 level: Slow, Magic Arrow, View Mines.

AASTR.

Natasha the Sorceress

Attack 5
Defense 7
Spell Power 21
Knowledge 12

Expirience 18498
Level 11

Mana Points 240 / 120
Morale +2
Luck +1

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
4 red dragons (2783.2720)
5 wolves (131.0600)
35 orc chiefs (543.0250)
14 cyclopes (2576.8470)
13 war trolls (920.6340)
(6954.8380 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Logistics, Navigation, Wisdom,
ADVANCED:
BASIC: Archery, Scouting, Mysticism,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Witches Broach (+3 Spell Power)
Medal of Courage (morale +1)
Medal of Honor (morale +1)
Divine Breastplate (+3 Defense)
Minor Scroll (+2 Knowledge)
Gambler's Lucky Coin (luck +1)
Lightning Rod (+50% damage of lighting spells to enemy)
Book of Elements (doubles effectiveness of summoning spells)
Black Pearl (+2 Spell Power, +2 Knowledge)
Spell Scroll (ability to cast special spell)
Staff of Wizardry (+5 Spell Power)

Spells:
5 level: Resurrect True, Summon Water Elemental, Dimension Door,
4 level: Mass Cure, Town Gate,
3 level: Teleport, Mass Haste, Mass Dispel, Paralyze,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin, Dragon Slayer,
1 level: Cure, Slow, Bless, Magic Arrow, View Mines, View Resources.

Pash.

Natasha the Sorceress

Attack 3
Defense 2
Spell Power 8
Knowledge 6

Expirience 18932
Level 12

Mana Points 60 / 60
Morale +1
Luck +3

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
10 power liches (795.4500)
10 crusaders (1764.2400)
-
65 rangers (911.9500)
7 bone dragons (2491.1495)
(5962.7895 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Logistics, Navigation,
ADVANCED: Pathfinding, Luck,
BASIC: Archery, Wisdom, Mysticism, Ballistics,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Gambler's Lucky Coin (luck +1)
Lightning Rod (+50% damage of lighting spells to enemy)

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level: Teleport,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Disrupting Ray, Dragon Slayer, View Artifacts,
1 level: Haste, Bless, Curse.

Inquisitor.

Ruby the Knight

Attack 5
Defense 3
Spell Power 2
Knowledge 3

Expirience 6546
Level 6

Mana Points 22 / 30
Morale +2
Luck +0

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
11 war trolls (778.9980)
23 wolves (602.8760)
10 cyclopes (1840.6050)
22 ogre lords (1379.9940)
51 orc chiefs (791.2650)
(5393.7380 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Pathfinding,
ADVANCED: Ballistics,
BASIC: Leadership, Estates,

Artifacts:
none

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level:
2 level:
1 level:

Lavageth.

Natasha the Sorceress

Attack 4
Defense 3
Spell Power 12
Knowledge 6

Expirience 15765
Level 11

Mana Points 58 / 60
Morale +2
Luck +2

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
13 champions (895.4205)
10 crusaders (1764.2400)
24 veteran pikemen (599.2680)
22 master swordsmen (899.9980)
80 rangers (1122.4000)
(5281.3265 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Logistics, Navigation,
ADVANCED: Scouting, Wisdom, Luck,
BASIC: Archery,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Witches Broach (+3 Spell Power)
Medal of Distinction (morale +1)

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level: Teleport, Mass Bless, Earthquake,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin, Cold Ray, Disrupting Ray, Dragon Slayer,
1 level: Slow, Bless, Dispel Magic, Magic Arrow, Blood Lust, Shield, View Mines.

Freza.

Natasha the Sorceress

Attack 2
Defense 2
Spell Power 6
Knowledge 4

Expirience 8576
Level 7

Mana Points 40 / 40
Morale +0
Luck +0

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
13 cavalries (720.9085)
22 swordsmen (753.3240)
26 veteran pikemen (649.2070)
9 medusas (539.7255)
56 rangers (785.6800)
(3448.8450 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Logistics, Navigation,
ADVANCED: Wisdom,
BASIC:

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Gold Watch (double effectiveness of hypnotize spells)
Ice Cloak (-50% damage from enemy cold spells)

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level: Teleport, Mass Bless, Earthquake,
2 level: Steelskin, Cold Ray, Disrupting Ray, Dragon Slayer,
1 level: Slow, Bless, Dispel Magic, Shield, View Mines.

Me4nik.

Fineoz the Barbarian

Attack 4
Defense 2
Spell Power 1
Knowledge 1

Expirience 2301
Level 3

Mana Points 10 / 10
Morale +1
Luck +0

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
8 trolls (465.6960)
14 ogre lords (878.1780)
22 wolves (576.6640)
58 orc chiefs (899.8700)
66 goblins (217.9980)
(3038.4060 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT:
ADVANCED: Pathfinding,
BASIC: Diplomacy, Estates,

Artifacts:
Ice Cloak (-50% damage from enemy cold spells)

Spells:
5 level:
4 level:
3 level:
2 level:
1 level:

Manticore.

Galon the Wizard

Attack 2
Defense 2
Spell Power 14
Knowledge 10

Expirience 7314
Level 6

Mana Points 100 / 100
Morale +2
Luck +0

Army with SPREAD combat formation:
4 trolls (232.8480)
2 wolves (52.4240)
5 cyclopes (920.3025)
2 wolves (52.4240)
4 trolls (232.8480)
(1490.8465 TOTAL)

Skills:
EXPERT: Wisdom,
ADVANCED: Pathfinding,
BASIC: Leadership, Estates,

Artifacts:
Magic Book (ability to cast spells)
Witches Broach (+3 Spell Power)
Thunder Mace (+1 Attack)
Minor Scroll (+2 Knowledge)
Book of Elements (doubles effectiveness of summoning spells)
Elemental Ring (half cost of summoning spells)
Black Pearl (+2 Spell Power, +2 Knowledge)
Spell Scroll (ability to cast special spell)
Staff of Wizardry (+5 Spell Power)

Spells:
5 level: Summon Water Elemental, Dimension Door,
4 level: Mass Cure, Town Gate,
3 level: Mass Dispel, Paralyze,
2 level: Lightning Bolt, Blind, Steelskin,
1 level: Slow, Stoneskin, Dispel Magic, Magic Arrow, Shield, View Mines.

Colleagues!
Currently, 72 arenas have been created. There are 38 more to be made, with the participation of Dust and Mantik0re.
The existing arenas have been sent to ALMOST all players, except for those from whom I need additional information regarding the completion, confirmed by save files.
In the future, round-robin arena-style tournaments on our forum are unlikely to be held. I will divide the players into groups and then hold a final.
If you knew what was coming soon regarding the awarding of arenas...

Colleagues!
In the future, it is unlikely that we will hold round-robin-style arena tournaments on our forum. I will divide participants into groups and then hold a final.

Why is that? Is the process of processing the results too time-consuming?

Why is it like that? Is the process of handling the results too time-consuming?

Because 110 arenas need to be generated, sorted by participants, archived, sent to everyone, and judged. You would know what will happen next week when I start judging the results. I will be called all sorts of names here...

Based on the arenas I've tried, it's always a one-sided game. The only creatures that have a chance against my skeletons are the aastr elementals, but their chances are very slim: they don't have the Ring of Protection, and my skeletons can take down the summoned stack with a single attack. In the other arenas, there's no need to come up with any strategies. P.S. Theoretical discussions about the task are good, but I suggest asking Pred to share his walkthrough for HeroesWorld, as he seems to have completed the task better than anyone else in practice. As for the missing arenas, MantikOre yields the same result. In the arena with Dust, everything comes down to who gets hit first. The fact that he doesn't have liches (which means his skeletons move before mine) gives him an advantage in maneuvering, and I get hit first. Combined with Dust's wider selection of spells, his advantage is undeniable.

Pred is a registered user of our forum. He has the right to express any opinion within the Forum Rules. I am waiting for feedback from all players regarding the arenas. The arenas have been sent to all players. All have been checked, except for one.

So, overall, we seem to be on schedule.
I envision the further development of events as follows.
On Monday-Tuesday, a table will appear, containing the VERDICTS of the PLAYERS themselves regarding the arenas.
Shortly after, a table with my verdicts will be published.
After that, I will remove all negative comments directed at the judge who unfairly evaluated the match.
Then, we'll work on it a bit more, and after some time, I will post the table with the final results.
I will not assign penalties for incorrect statements directed at the judge, but I will definitely remove all offensive language.

Where should I send the verdicts – to the email or in the topic?

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And should I enable AUTOBATTLE?

Where should I send the verdicts – to the email or in this thread?

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And should I enable AUTOBATTLE?____________________________

We already wrote about AUTOBATTLE :)
Step-by-step: you choose to load the game, online game, on one machine, 2 players, and select the arena you are going to analyze. In battle, try to make the strongest moves for both sides yourself. When analyzing yourself in attack, you need to load the arena where your nickname is listed first, and in defense – second.

Come on, colleagues! I'm waiting for your verdicts! I especially look forward to the opinions of Mantic0re and ask you to carefully review the match between Pash and Lavageth.

Player Verdicts on Arenas

Nick	Army Power	Stats	Dust	PReDS	SDV	Catch	AASTR	Pash	Inquisitor	Lavageth	Freza	Me4nik	Manticore
Dust	19630.0070	7-7-17-8 (80)		2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0
PReDS	22366.3170	8-3-8-9 (90)	0-2		2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0
SDV	14115.0580	6-3-14-9 (180)	0-2	0-2		2-0	0-2	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0
Catch	11529.5135	9-10-8-3 (15)	0-2	0-2	1-1		0-2	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0
AASTR	6954.8380	5-7-21-12 (240)	0-2	0-2	2-0	2-0		2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0
Pash	5962.7895	3-2-8-6 (60)	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2		2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	0-2
Inquisitor	5393.7380	5-3-2-3 (22)
Lavageth	5281.3265	4-3-12-6 (58)
Freza	3448.8450	2-2-6-4 (40)	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2		2-0	0-2
Me4nik	3038.4060	4-2-1-1 (10)
Manticore	1490.8465	2-2-14-10 (100)	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	0-2	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	2-0