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18 years ago
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So, I play as my hero against everyone, on both sides, right? And Kyle, for example, plays against my hero once and as my hero once. Is that how it works?
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18 years ago
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Qwerty;133655
After the first stage of the game, a dueling map – an “arena” – is created, and the player’s hero, along with identical troops from the saved game, their arrangement, primary and secondary skills, luck and morale modifiers, mana, and artifacts, is transferred to it. On the arena, each hero will fight every other hero, twice each: they attack in turn. All participants who reach the finish line will be sent “arenas” featuring their heroes. Seven days after the arenas are sent, each player can send a reply with their verdict on the results.
The final decision on the arena results is made by the tournament judge.
I think this excerpt from the rules is the answer...
In simpler terms, Qwerty will send you as many duels as there are participants who complete the tournament (-1 because of you... you won't be fighting yourself :) ).
And in each duel, you will fight for yourself and for your opponent, twice – the only difference will be which hero attacks first...
P.S. and I will fight with all my heroes against his and with his against all... and only poor Qwerty will create all these duels and fight more than anyone else
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18 years ago
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Why can’t I make the opponent controlled by the computer? (on the arena)
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18 years ago
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Starhan;139443
Why can't the opponent be controlled by the computer? (in the arena)
The computer fights very poorly! And it's much easier to defeat than a human ;)
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18 years ago
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then the auto-battle will decide everything :)

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just play against yourself... play very honestly... another person would play differently (playing against yourself).
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18 years ago
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it's not about combat practice, it's definitely great... especially 18 battles for both sides... but it turns out to be not objective (and in some cases, I understand, the judge will decide everything)

and to make it objective, you need to do this: :) how many turns will it take you to destroy the enemy? :)



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although that's not entirely objective either... only online will decide everything ;)

oh! and you can also do it like in chess by mail... that is, you sit down to play, each on your own computer, and communicate your moves to each other (like pawn e2 e4) griffons on the right-top attacked swordsmen :) or the hero cast Ice Ring on trolls, and so on.
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18 years ago
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Let's skip the games... :D
Read the topic carefully (especially the first page), for example, post #9... especially this part - and all questions will disappear ;)
Qwerty;133807
1. Criteria for evaluating arenas.
There are four possible options for players' verdicts on an arena:
1) The opinions of both participants coincide;
2) The opinions of the participants do not coincide;
3) One of the participants did not send a verdict;
4) Neither participant sent a verdict.

Based on these situations, the judge:
1) in the case of an identical verdict from the players, with a probability of over 95%, will agree with their decision;
2) in the case of different verdicts from the players, will request a максимально detailed (possibly with screenshots) justification for the decision. Based on the arguments of the players and his own preliminary decision, a final verdict is issued;
3) In the case of the absence of a verdict from one of the players, the PRELIMINARY verdict of the judge begins to play the role of that player's verdict. The situation then develops according to the scenario described in paragraph 1) or 2);
4) in the case of the absence of a verdict from both players, the situation automatically transitions to option 1) with identical PRELIMINARY verdicts from the judge. Thus, the PRELIMINARY verdict of the judge for this match, with a probability of over 95%, becomes final.

2. Guarantees of objectivity and impartiality of the judge - this is my reputation. I will not play in this Tournament, as you can understand. I will judge the arenas fairly and, of course, I will try to find the strongest moves from both sides. In the event of protests, I will analyze each case in detail. I want to say that the issue of judging arenas is a very delicate matter. I can say that I have some experience in battles, as well as in modeling without a computer. I also have some experience in judging Competitions, and not only offline and not only in Heroes.

Any more questions!


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Starhan;139455
Oh! and you know what, you can do it like in chess by mail... that is, you sit down to play, each on your own computer, and communicate moves to each other (like pawn e2 e4). Griffons on the right-top attacked the swordsmen :) or a hero casts Ice Ring on trolls, and so on.
I suggested Qwerty's option - to hold some duels in online mode... to which he replied with agreement - the main thing is that both opponents agree and can communicate... so please - I am ready to have an online sparring with everyone - there is only one small thing left (to go through the Tournament and send the save) :D :D :D
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18 years ago
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I don't doubt the judge's competence; I just suggested a way to avoid potential difficulties. :) (as a suggestion, in case there are more tournaments like this in the future).
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18 years ago
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Of course, 21 days is a bit short. The hero can't manage everything. I'll definitely send you the save file, as I've already completed it once. P.S. Should I delete the extra heroes on day 22?
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18 years ago
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Please add me to the tournament table. I want to participate in the New Year battles.
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18 years ago
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Sign me up too. I'll try to make it. I'm already registered on the HL website. Do I need to register on their forum for the tournament itself? There are already way more than 10 people participating. The judge will definitely get tired.
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18 years ago
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Qwerty;133655
8. The first stage of the tournament starts on December 14th and will last until January 15th (inclusive).

Question to the organizer:

Qwerty, will the deadline for this tournament be extended under any circumstances?
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18 years ago
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Ley;140773
Question to the organizer:

Qwerty, under no circumstances will the deadline for this tournament be extended?
I'm not the organizer, but I'll answer...
I think the deadline won't be extended because the tournament is hosted on two platforms, and coordinating the deadlines is a very difficult task. I don't think they'll go for it.

Happy New Year!
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18 years ago
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That’s a shame. Time is running out…

P.S. The New Year was great; he even said, “We should play in the ‘New Year’s Arena 2008’ tournament”:D
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18 years ago
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A good tournament, it's a shame I don't have time for it.
Good luck to everyone.
I'm looking forward to the next tournament:)

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