Posts from TE – your opinion.

I ask the admins to close the thread.
since I am the "creator."

I would say – not to close it, but even to delete it... because the thread doesn't lead to anything other than arguments, quarrels, conflicts, and proving with all your might that you are right.

The topic is called "Opinion on TE"
My opinion of TE (and that of everyone who has encountered it) is purely positive

Now let's discuss what Sir Navuch wrote here (meaning Captain)

Not everything is so straightforward here; in some ways, he is right... Point by point.

1) Of course, the same dying branch is not TE, but SoD, because (I try not to write judgments without reason, like "this is bad" or "this is good" without comments—that's wrong; a person must explain every argument)—the number of people playing TE is only increasing, while the number of people playing pure SoD is, unfortunately, decreasing (probably many know good players (even mega-strong ones, world champions who no longer play Heroes (I can name about 20 such people offhand)); those who stopped playing TE are few, while those starting to play are many times more)

2) In the world, of course, far more people play SoD than TE. This is because, unfortunately, the developer of TE—Horn and his team—cannot openly advertise or promote TE, as this would require the consent and permission of the Heroes brand owner, and they will not grant it, since their current goal is to make as many players as possible forget old versions of Heroes and switch to the fifth one, into which they poured so much money; therefore, it is extremely unprofitable for them to promote such a convenient and refined version of Heroes III..

3) Regarding the claim that TE players are hard to find—this is incorrect (at least if we are talking about Russian-speaking players). Sir Navuch (Captain) writes that he cannot find a partner for TE when he needs one—but that's no wonder, as this sir communicates and plays with Portal and Vold players, and very few there play TE; if he were to copy and message the ASL of Bay' same 200 people or so)—he would be able to find a partner for TE at any time of day or night (for example, whenever I appear in ASL (at any time of day), offers to play start pouring in immediately)

Now for my opinion on TE and SoD. TE is, of course, a very good version for players who frequently play Multiplayer and strive for the randomness and luck factor to have minimal influence on the game, and for the game to be as convenient as possible, with Gameplay taking minimum time, so that in the end, the truly more skilled and stronger player wins, not the luckier one.

Horn managed to implement this, and he deserves a monument for it. He succeeded, without turning Heroes III into another game (like VOG), in making the game take minimum time (fast army and artifact transfers with one button, splitting and merging troop slots into ones, introducing chess clocks into the game, forcing players to move as quickly as possible and not toy with the opponent—as happens in SoD—by dragging an entire horde of Zobs with a single wretched harpy, conducting many battles via quick battle to save time for more serious fights (this became possible because mana is not spent in TE battles), buying all troops in the Castle with one button), making the game more balanced and less dependent on luck (all heroes start with full armies, but the second hero in the tavern on the right has no troops—thus there is no longer such injustice as in SoD, where one player's starting hero and second native hero in the tavern arrive with only one type of troop (for example, only centaurs in minimum quantity when playing Rampart), while another player has native heroes both left and right in the tavern, and all of them (including the starter)—arrived with maximum troops, and after merging armies and buying from the castle, he effectively gets an army equal in size and strength to two weeks' worth and can simply go and kill the opponent immediately (especially if playing on a small map); he made ALL schools of magic equivalent—previously in SoD, Fire and Water lacked transport magic, and in this, these schools lost significantly to others, and rarely did anyone specifically choose these types of magic, as early mastery of transport magic is almost victory, while Water and Fire only had good combat spells; now, Fire and Water are taken first (otherwise the hero cannot portal wherever they want and make one single jump instead of two DD jumps (by the way, DD was cut to two jumps instead of 4 in SoD, and you don't have to track saves like before to check this, as by all rules in SoD jumping more than once was forbidden), but at the same time Air and Earth remained worthy magics that people gladly take and are happy to find books for; in Air—Fly and Haste remain, as well as Lightning and Chain Lightning, while Earth—Earth has no transport spells, but it has Mass Slow—the most powerful early-stage magic, which recently in an online game allowed me at the start of the second week, without building level 5 and 6, to break through a large horde of Efreet; there is Mass Shield and Skin—also powerful early spells that minimize losses, as well as heavy-hitting spells like Explosion, Restoration, Meteor Shower, and Raise Dead. It's worth remembering that only Restoration helps in battles with magic-immune monsters, and Explosion is the most powerful direct damage spell, and furthermore very helpful when taking the Dragon Utopia, where it affects everyone except black dragons) and Horn also managed to make the game much more diverse than in SoD, where rules restrict gameplay as much as possible (since now in every castle and generally there are many heroes who are great for the lead role, rather than like before—only a few (logistics, attack/armor specialists, and that's it... (mages with level 4 specials are forbidden in SoD); now it is profitable to upgrade ALL skills, not just some of them as before (since taking a "bad" skill gives you bonuses—for example, the "Catapult" skill, if you also have "Archery"—not only allows controlling catapults during city assaults but also significantly increases archery damage; "Navigation" becomes an analog to Logistics and increases hero movement speed if they have the "Scouting" skill (and "Scouting," in turn, allows a hero to crash into the ground, which is extremely important for lead heroes in the absence of Town Portal))

And since monsters and computer heroes behave the same in battle as in usual and familiar SoD, all monster properties are the same, and the game strategy remains exactly the same as in SoD.

But...

Despite all this, there is a large mass of players who either play extremely rarely and find it too tedious to read the TE manual for one game a month, finding it much easier to play old SoD; there are players who play a lot—but mainly with weak players and beginners, who have only just entered the world of online Heroes and haven't even heard of TE (and there is no point in them switching—they only recently started playing same III and haven't even figured it out completely); and then there are veteran conservatives who like SoD, like the lottery, and the fact that you can be very lucky or unlucky at the start, in utopias, and with magic, and they continue to play familiar SoD—and there is something to that too, and you cannot simply condemn them for it...

I recently played on SoD with a good player from Portal—Deep Mike (this is where I broke through the large horde of Efreet in the first days of the second week)—and it gave me no less pleasure than TE (especially when I got Mass Slow on the 6th day of the first week :) ), and in TE, when I play, I also try to disable as much as possible to make it as close to SoD as possible... (I'm a conservative, what can you do; I play Heroes II that way too...)












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Again 25 :) -:
As for the second ones, I'm a leader there :) be jealous ;)
and I taught you, on the League, if you still remember :)
By the way, you also imposed rules there—removed DD, introduced other nonsense, and fight by YOUR rules, as YOU know how—namely pumping Barbarian and just running... MONOTONOUS war :smile29:

Wow, I'm in shock at how arrogant and shameless one must be to write such a thing, taking advantage of the fact that this is another resource :smile22:

For reference:

1) I started playing Heroes II on Portal online some time ago; I had absolutely no theoretical knowledge, but thanks to skills in Heroes III—I started playing same II quite well and took first place in the season, and in the next one, players from offline arrived. I played with some of them, and after that, I wrote to one of the authoritative Heroes experts—that Dust and Deep Mike are very strong players, and Sir Navuchodonosor (Captain) and Lovelas are extremely weak. Even though it was specifically Dust who impressed me with his play on 7 Lakes. And yet Captain writes that he "taught" Dust how to play :)

2) DD and other things were removed on Portal (where Captain is from), but certainly not on the League, of which Dust is a representative and which held an online tournament only this summer using rules taken from Portal!!!! because seasonal online tournaments for same II have been running on Portal for several years.

3) The funniest thing I read is that Sir Captain is a leader in same II :D
And this is written by a person who, no matter how hard he tried (using dishonest methods) to take first place in the same II season on Portal for more than one year—NEVER managed to do so.

Among his "achievements," one can only mention that he "won" the cup for same II by defeating me, but he did it DISHONESTLY by hacking the game before creating it and viewing saves in another game that had not yet ended. I have all the evidence of this; a highly authoritative player of same II confirmed that it was 100% save-viewing during the period between recording games until the end of the game itself, and 99% hacking in another game created by Sir Captain. The investigation into this was on Portal, but for some reason it fizzled out without explanation (thinking the reason is that Gorbik—the founder and owner of Portal—is a fellow countryman and friend of Sir Captain). Instead of explaining those more than strange things in the game on the part of Sir Navuchodonosor (Captain), there followed a whole stream of arrogant lies and filth (arrogant because Sir Navuchodonosor (Captain) lied despite knowing that anyone entering the Tavern and reading the events he described would see that everything was the opposite (after this, "contempt" for this person is putting it mildly...))

You can read about it here (starting from the 5th post counting from the bottom):
http://www.hommportal.ru/tavern/?id=196865&pagenum=3

And yet he continues to lie just as much here and on the League...

I don't want to prolong this argument any further – **admins, please close the thread.** P.S. Gunnar, you've already been shown all the evidence on the Heroes portal – and your "why is it..." well, understand that you can't prove something to a person, you can't force it into their head. If you believe it, then you believe it, even if you're the only one against the entire portal. (If you want, open a thread HERE, but make it YOUR OWN – invite experts, post our saves, your "proof," and we can discuss it further here – it might turn into an interesting challenge.) P.P.S. Regarding my "bragging" – if someone has achieved something, I mean winning three highest-level games in Heroes, why shouldn't they talk about it?

What should I quote? First, take a look at your signature... it's strange that the moderators haven't noticed you yet ;)

Okay, if it's offensive, I'll remove it.

Adelaide answered all the questions - I no longer have the desire to "beat around the bush."

Unfortunately, Adelaide didn't answer any of the questions. Her message only shows a biased attitude towards Dust_HL, who was behaving quite correctly, and a reluctance to see insults directed at him by the "recognized player" Captain... Well, and the threats to delete the topic, apparently, that's the only way to argue on this forum, all you hear is: "delete" and "close."

The topic leads nowhere except to arguments, quarrels, conflicts, and proving with all your might that you are right...

But what is the purpose of the forum? Is it only for universal praise and mutual encouragement? No, no, and no. You need to be able to resolve controversial issues; in life, you don't always have the option to "delete the topic."

Thank you, Gynnar, for the detailed story; it's a pity that so many words will be wasted for nothing, once again... And after the second part of the story, I completely lost the desire to prove anything here. Ugh.

I request that the administrators close the thread.
since I am the "creator".

At the request of the thread creator: the thread is closed.

Sincerely.

Unfortunately, Adelaide didn't answer any of the questions. Her message only shows a biased attitude towards Dust_HL, who was behaving quite correctly, and a reluctance to see insults directed at him by the "recognized player" Captain... Well, and threats to delete the topic, apparently, that's the only kind of argument they know how to use on this forum: "delete" and "close."

But what is the purpose of the forum? Is it only for universal praise and mutual encouragement? No, no, and no. You need to be able to resolve controversial issues; in life, you don't always have the option to "delete the topic."

Oh well... Prophetic words. It seems that's all they know how to do here.
The topic is closed (((