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#6800 7/6/2025 2:43 PM UTC

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Kamidory attacks Warrior-2
Warrior-2 takes 120-13=107 damage (-106/330)
Black Jack uses Hypnotize (+)

Initiative
[MAX] Genza (121/313)
[30+] Kamidory (175/175) Turn: 2/3
[22] Black Jack (300/300) ++- Turn: 1/4
>[18] Honor (247/247) Turn: 1/3 Portraits: one, two, three
[18] Scar (89/250) Turn: 5/7
[16] Ushumgallu (305/370)
[16] Sheila (157/200)
[14] Calcite Warrior-1 (330/330)
[14] Calcite Warrior-5 (330/330) Hypnotize
[14] Calcite Warrior-7 (250/330) Taunt - Illiman
[14] Calcite Warrior-8 (330/330)
[14] Calcite Warrior-9 (330/330)
[14] Calcite Warrior-11 (330/330)
[14] Calcite Warrior-12 (287/330) Hypnotize
[14] Calcite Warrior-13 (250/330)
[12] Ferrus (105/185)
[12] Illiman (168/200)
[12] General (190/250) Turn: 7/10
[12] Atim (78/150) Arrows: 13/15

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#6801 7/6/2025 2:49 PM UTC

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Honor at 11, Scar is delaying, Ushu at 13, Sheila at 7? I suggest saving the last Honor for now.

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#6802 7/6/2025 2:55 PM UTC

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Honoru is better than the first one above, Ushu is better than the one below, and 13 is better than the 5th one on the left. Shramu is better than the 8th one above. I think it will be safer for the homeless foreigner this way...

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#6803 7/6/2025 3:03 PM UTC

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You can block the 5th unit with the 13th, yes, but I would still keep Shramidze further away so as not to waste his Fury.

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#6804 7/6/2025 3:09 PM UTC

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lol, I thought it was about neither of those.

Either Honor on 9, Wushu on 11, or Honor on 1, and we keep the last one absolutely.

But since the hypnosis worked and Kami is nearby, we have enough health on the left for now, but what about the right:
The 13th is blocked, but it doesn't deal much damage on that flank, so we definitely need to move someone, and besides Wushu, no one else can go.

Before that, I'll ask - does the Honor attack on 9 work for sure now? Are there no saving throws or ways to move away?

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#6805 7/6/2025 3:10 PM UTC

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That's the worst-case scenario: if both 8 and 1 survive, they'll both attack, and at least one will land a critical hit. But even in that case, his General will heal him, and they probably won't reach Atimu if you position yourself well. In the end, only 9 and 11 remain, but they're far away... You just need to block 8 to prevent him from flanking Genzu.

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#6806 7/6/2025 3:17 PM UTC

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as an alternative - Honor 9, Wushu 11 (or 1, maybe that's even better), Scar replaces the 6th corpse and deals 13 damage. Since the taunt on Illidan is on the seventh, there's only one enemy left, who will attack Scar; even with a critical hit, it shouldn't kill him, and then you can heal him. The fifth can also deal damage to the 13th. Seems good.

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#6807 7/6/2025 3:27 PM UTC

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How does taunt work if the target is inaccessible? For example, if a unit with 5 attack will attack a unit with 13 attack, bypassing Illidan, will it block the path for the unit with 7 attack?

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#6808 7/6/2025 3:31 PM UTC

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if the target is unreachable, it will attack whoever is within range. But I don't see a problem here; they have spears that attack two squares away. So, 5 can attack 13 from above and to the right of the Orc, and 7 can attack the Orc from two squares to the right.

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#6809 7/6/2025 3:37 PM UTC

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Yes, I completely forgot about that... But let's put Honor at position 1 and Ush at position 8. And move Scar to position 6.

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#6810 7/6/2025 3:41 PM UTC

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as an option - Honor 9, Ushu 11 (or 1, maybe that's even better), Scar takes the place of the 6th corpse and deals 13 damage.
since on the seventh turn, the taunt is on Illiman, there's only one enemy left, who will attack Scar; even with a critical hit, it shouldn't kill him, and then you can heal him. The fifth one can also deal damage to the 13th. Seems good.

Plus, let Ushu be the first from the bottom, so he can help with the eighth or cover the rear if needed.

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#6811 7/6/2025 3:42 PM UTC

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Although, even if 8 manages to get through, on the next turn you can build a "fence" around Atima, and no one will be able to reach him. The main thing is not to stand too close.

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#6812 7/6/2025 3:48 PM UTC

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yes, we'll try to manage on the 8th

so, to summarize:

gonor hits 9
ushu 1 from below
scar goes to the place of the 6th corpse and hits 13
sheila should shred 7
5th hits 13 from above-right of ilik

12th - let's see how it gets there

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#6813 7/6/2025 3:49 PM UTC

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Look, basically... 1 will attack Genzu from the right, 8 will move above 1 and also attack Genzu, and 11 can simply move 4 steps forward. This is a scenario that must be avoided... Genzu and Ush will be cut off from the rear.

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#6814 7/6/2025 3:51 PM UTC

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Before I ask, does the Honor Guard's attack in Might & Magic IX always work, without any saving throws or ways to avoid it?

Will.

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