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Offline Драккошка
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It would be better if we could reliably coordinate our actions during the Mafia game. So that the killer never finds a way to eliminate another player >_>
А, вот почему.

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Yashur and Medzh, how could you execute Arandor?
Like a mafia, of course. Yesterday, he was all over the place, pretending he wanted to execute Ment, but he didn't even vote for him.

Today, he's gotten bolder and is just spamming.

I haven't heard any constructive arguments, reasoning, or suspicions.

Master, at least, outlines different scenarios and tries to prove his innocence. And he has some kind of list of suspects.

Nay, I read what you wrote about the mafia trio Yashur-Master-Ment, but that doesn't make any sense. Like, the townspeople were choosing between two mafia members, and the mafia members didn't even try to find a third candidate to execute? Mafia-Master dug up evidence against his teammate and stubbornly tried to get him executed?
Maybe you should consider other options?
What do you think about Arandor's behavior, for example? What's wrong with switching your vote to him?

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
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Nebos, I don't know, it seems to me that Aretz is more useful. I'm leaning towards the idea that Master and Yashur, or Master and Neyra, are the ones who are being targeted.
А, вот почему.

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Okay, I reread yesterday's events. Here's what stood out. 1. At some point, Arandor supported the theory about the killer, just like Ment, and just as much as Neb. He hesitated for a long time, readily supported the execution of Yashur, and less readily supported the execution of Ment. This was more like just adding his vote. 2. Neyra supported the execution of Ment, following Neb's initiative and Drakkosha's lead. Just in case, the mafia needs to cast at least a third vote to avoid a situation where the entire team ends up adding their votes at the end. Then, there's a weak support for the execution of Ment. It's a tricky situation, theoretically a normal move for the mafia. 3. Yashur. He was indecisive throughout, didn't suspect anyone, but also wasn't eager to vote for Ment. I can assume that, like me, he simply didn't want to execute just anyone. So, that's roughly the order in which I'm ready to vote. And, to be honest, I don't like Koshi's gameplay objectively. 50% of his posts are just following Neb (hopefully, at least with some justification), and the other 50% are "It's obvious here" and "I don't understand anything."
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Please, no swearing. Just no swearing at all. And just in case, I'll repeat myself - I came here primarily to have fun and enjoy myself, and whether we win or not is just a matter of luck.
А, вот почему.

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Lacking anything more substantial, **execute Arandor**.
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Kosh is chatting aimlessly – she probably thinks the game will last a while.
Arandor is chatting aimlessly – seems like he's Mafia, not offering anything useful.

Yashur isn't rushing to execute Ment, because he has doubts and doesn't want to execute just anyone.
Arandor isn't rushing to execute Ment, because he doesn't want to eliminate his own teammate, even though they already have the required number of votes (Arandor still hasn't learned how to play as Mafia properly 😞).

Everyone on the bus laughed at my conclusions (me and Nebk's personalities). Sometimes I'm too slow to execute someone, sometimes I vote too quickly, and sometimes I just add my vote. If anything, experienced players don't play Mafia and Villagers like that; it's more typical of boring city players, because it's boring.
When I thought there were only six toads, but it turned out there were more...

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Hey, I read what you wrote about the three Mafia members in the Ящур-Master-Мент trio, but it doesn't make any sense. Like, the townspeople were choosing between two Mafia members, and the Mafia members themselves didn't even try to find a third candidate for execution? Did the Mafia Master dig up evidence against his teammate and stubbornly try to get him executed?
Maybe you should consider other options?
What about Арандор's behavior, for example? What's wrong with switching your vote to him?
That was just a suggestion; I wanted to write something along the lines of "my statements aren't the ultimate truth," but then I started thinking. I don't know why Мент acted so strangely and self-destructed. He didn't even put up a fight at the end, which is unusual for me. For example, if he's not on the same team as Ящур, it's unclear why he didn't try to push that line and steer the game towards a No New Victims (NNV) or Ящур's execution. On the other hand, he might have wanted to protect his teammate in this way. Therefore, Мент is either on a team with Ящур, who easily defended himself by redirecting the people's anger towards the princess, or with Мафстер, hoping to divert attention to Ящур, who they planned to execute based on a fabricated accusation. I believe that in the Ящур-Master pair, one is Mafia, and the other is most likely a town member.

I wrote yesterday about why I don't like Арандор. I'm willing to execute Арандор instead of Мафстер if we're sure he's on the Mafia's side and not Гибил. However, executing Гибил is better than executing a town member, especially if Гибил visited Мафстер and received a killing Night Defense (ND) from him. But overall, it's worth thinking everything through, as we still have time, and things aren't critical yet.
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Nebos, I don't know, it seems to me that Aretz is more useful. I'm leaning towards the idea that Master and Yashur, or Master and Neyra, are the Mafia.
I think it's safer to eliminate Arandor. For me, he's a guaranteed negative. The problem is with the others. If we end up in a mirror match, we've basically lost. We already took a risk once, and it won't work a second time. Only at night does the protector absolutely have to protect the governor.
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Alright, fine. Arza will be executed.
А, вот почему.

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Kosh is just chatting – he probably doesn't care about the outcome.
Arandor is also chatting – seems like he's just a Mafia member, not offering anything useful.

Yashchur isn't rushing to execute Ment, because he has doubts and doesn't want to execute just anyone.
Arandor isn't rushing to execute Ment, because he doesn't want to eliminate his own teammate, even though there are already enough votes (he still hasn't learned how to play properly with 100 Mafia members 😞).


This message can be described as "demagogy."

You've created analogies between pairs of players, intended to show their equivalence and the incorrect, unequal treatment they're receiving.
However, these analogies are based on only one "characteristic" or one "fact" within the topic.

The players here have presented a very complex picture. And, as it seems to me, they are not equivalent at all.

That's why I'm calling you out, because I can't expect anything other than demagogy and pointless chatter from you.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
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But I really don't like how all the suspects in Arca have been rounded up. I think he's actually useful to the city.
А, вот почему.

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I was the only one on the second day who thought Nebok was revealing himself through his mana usage and offering his theories? Of course, it's stranger to do this than to test it, but to offer so many theories, you need to have two very successful runs. (I'm not claiming to be in that role, just asking.)
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In a pair of Lizardman-Master, one is Mafia, and the other is most likely innocent.
I thought the same thing before. Master has been sitting in the block for two days, and maybe we should think about why.
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That's why I'm voting for you because I can't expect anything but demagoguery and spam from you.
That's because I ABSOLUTELY have no information, and the clues have stopped everyone from guessing and even commenting. As for psychology and analyzing posts, this method has been proven useless time and time again, because you can just as easily execute someone randomly, and the success rate will be practically the same. If we look at the percentage ratio, I even have more successful Mafia executions with random guesses than the city does with its successful executions for these reasons.
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I think he's still useful to the city.
Without me, the city will be licking a frog's paw, or maybe even an old man's

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because the city has a successful record of executing Mafia members for these reasons.
There are no other options. Or are you suggesting we guess the clues?)
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Well, yesterday, Mentha was rightly executed for oology. And my circle of suspects is very small and tight-knit.
А, вот почему.

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