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I thought the topic was closed...
I'll share my opinion - messages and reputation aren't indicators because people join clans for the sake of playing and earning medals, and maybe for the sake of team spirit, not for communication and reputation, and the rules invented by the creator are correct; I completely agree with Archi, but regarding the trial period of 1.5 months, I would agree; we waited that long for registration, and during that time, I think the clan will show itself, at least in one tournament. In general, my position remains the same: I'm against the new additions...

Colleagues, I've made some minor edits to the existing Clan Rules.

I certainly agree with you completely, but I think the Creator should change the rules... because he's the one who has to deal with the inactive clans... =) And I would still add a few more points... but I'll keep quiet for now.

Don't stay silent!
I posted this specifically to spark a discussion!
I believe that WE, specifically us – representatives of ACTIVE clans – need to develop a solution that we can agree on and then propose to the Creator for consideration.
This is just my perspective, and there are definitely other good ideas!
After all, it is us who will have to operate under these rules.

okay, I'll try to explain how it will all work now! =)

I agree with Qwerty.)
But regarding being an active participant, that's not quite right. 1 message in 6 months isn't much and wouldn't qualify as submitting an application.
And the required time spent on the forum should be increased.

GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR HeroesWorld CLANS

CONTENTS:
1. "GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR HeroesWorld CLANS:"
2. "HOW TO CREATE YOUR OWN CLAN ON HeroesWorld"
3. "HOW TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR CLAN REGISTRATION ON HeroesWorld"
4. "REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLAN REPRESENTATION THREAD ON HeroesWorld"
5. "REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLAN LEADER ON HeroesWorld"
6. "TYPES OF CLANS ON HeroesWorld"

1."GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR HeroesWorld CLANS:"
· A clan is a combat/analytical collective [Go to section] of like-minded individuals (players).
· The Leader must develop an ideology that fundamentally (preferably) distinguishes the newly created clan from existing ones.
· A Clan Leader is mandatory. Requirements for the leader: [Go to requirements]
· Clan composition: 4 or more members. Each member must have posted at least 20 messages on the forum and possess positive morale.
· Each clan member must be a registered HeroesWorld user and an active participant in the forum.
· A clan and its members may choose one or more of the following directions for their gaming activities:
Heroes 1 offline, Heroes 2 offline; Heroes 3 offline; Heroes 3 online; WoG offline; WoG online; TE ofline; TE online; Heroes 4 offline; Heroes 4 online; Heroes 5 online; Heroes 5 offline.
· It is not permitted to be in two clans simultaneously.
· A clan must have a Representation thread in the Inter-clan section.
· The clan representation thread must satisfy the requirements set for representation threads. [Go to requirements]
· The Clan Leader must constantly update the Representation thread if any changes occur (after official registration of the clan on HeroesWorld, they are granted the necessary permissions for this).
· In the event of a lack of activity from the Clan Leader for more than 5 months, the clan is disbanded. However, in the case of a change of Leader (provided there are no objections from the previous leader and with the consent of at least 2/3 of the clan composition consisting of at least 4 active members), the clan may continue to function. If 70% of clan members do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without stating reasons, the clan is disbanded.
· In the event that the numerical strength of the clan is less than 4 active forum participants, the clan is given 2 months to complete its composition. If after this period the number of active members remains fewer than 4, the clan is disbanded.
· If a clan does not participate in HW portal tournaments (if the clan is "COMBAT") for 5 months, then the clan is considered inactive and will also be disbanded.

· Clan activities are regulated by the Forum Rules and resolutions of the inter-clan organization LZMS – League of Laws-Inter-clan Council.
· The powers of LZMS extend only to clans. LZMS resolutions may be either recommendatory or mandatory for execution.
· In case of a violation of Forum Rules by a member of the clan, as well as a violation of ethical communication norms, a warning is issued to the clan (regardless of the "General Portal Rules www.HeroesWorld.ru"). After a repeated violation, a second warning is issued. Upon receiving a third warning, the clan is disbanded, and its Leader is deprived of the right to register clans for a period of 7 months. After 7 months, the former Clan Leader has the right to petition LZMS for the restoration of their clan registration rights.
· LZMS shall decide whether a post is a violation and how serious it is to issue a warning to the clan. Based on the results of the meeting, a resolution may be adopted with a recommendation such as an apology or a probationary period, or something more serious, up to issuing a warning to the clan.

2."HOW TO CREATE YOUR OWN CLAN ON HeroesWorld"
1. Familiarize yourself with the General Provisions for clans on HeroesWorld
2. Choose what type of clan it will be - whether it will be "COMBAT" or "ANALYTICAL" - the answer "MIXED" is not accepted!
3. Gather the necessary clan composition.
4. Set up a Representation thread in the Inter-clan section
5. Submit an application for clan registration.
After checking the representation thread and the clan's compliance with the General Provisions for clans on HeroesWorld, the Clan Leader will be notified via Private Messages on the Forum regarding further actions.

3."HOW TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR CLAN REGISTRATION ON HeroesWorld"
1. Click the "SUBMIT APPLICATION" link SUBMIT APPLICATION
2. In the window that appears, in the "Subject" input field, enter: "Application for clan registration {xxx}", where {xxx} is the name of your clan.
3. In the "Message" input field, enter the link to your clan's representation thread.
4. Click the "create message" button.

4."REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLAN REPRESENTATION THREAD ON HeroesWorld"
· The representation thread must contain the date of the clan's founding.
· The representation thread must contain information about who is currently the clan leader and a link to their profile on HeroesWorld
· The representation thread must contain information about the clan composition and links to the profiles of each of its members.
· The representation thread must contain information about the chosen directions of the clan's gaming activities.
· The representation thread must contain the clan charter.
· Basic ideological positions. Plagiarism (use of materials from other clans) is punished by issuing a warning to the clan.
· The representation thread may contain the clan crest or other clan attributes, as well as information about the achievements of the clan and its members.

5. "REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLAN LEADER ON HeroesWorld"
· Any active registered HeroesWorld user with a positive morale balance of at least two "positive birds" can create a clan. After recruiting 4 active members (including the Leader), the clan is registered.
· The concept of "Active Forum Participant" is introduced. An active participant is a leader who must accumulate a minimum of 30 messages over the last 2 months. And only after 2 months can they register their clan!
· The Leader must declare the Goal of this clan!!! Whether it will be a "COMBAT" or "ANALYTICAL" association.

6. "TYPES OF CLANS ON HeroesWorld"
· On HW, 2 types of clans can be registered:
a) "COMBAT"
b) "ANALYTICAL"
· If a clan is "ANALYTICAL", its work (results of their activities) will be checked from time to time (approximately once every 1-2 months) - if none are observed, the clan will be disbanded for lack of necessity!
· An "ANALYTICAL" clan needs to write a report on the work performed in a specially created thread once every 1-2 months!
· If the clan is "COMBAT", at least 2 members of the future clan must participate in HW tournament/tournaments BEFORE or during its creation.
· A "COMBAT CLAN" needs to write a report in a different form - state the number of Tournaments their representatives participated in, list the representatives, the amount of activity, and whether there are prize places (and who has them)
· Also, a COMBAT clan is NOT forbidden from engaging in Analytical activities, and an ANALYTICAL one - Combat. Such a clan will be conditionally considered "MIXED"
*note: The Clan Leader must declare what kind of clan they will have - the answer "Mixed" is not accepted - because forum members must clearly understand what this clan will represent in the future! Whether it will participate in tournaments on HW, or engage in analytical activities and introduce them to forum members. But the direction that the leader chose for the clan must be priority


ps I wrote what I added or changed in red....=)

If 70% of the clan members do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without giving a reason, the clan will be disbanded.

If 70% of the clan members are absent for 2-3 months, how will they provide a reason? :smile32:

In the event of a clan member violating the Forum Rules, as well as violating ethical communication standards, the clan receives a warning. After a repeated violation, a second warning is issued. In the event of receiving a third warning, the clan is disbanded, and its Leader is deprived of the right to register clans for a period of 7 months.

Hmm... but what about

The main rules of the portal www.HeroesWorld.ru :
Comply with all laws of the Russian Federation.
It is forbidden to use obscene and offensive language in your avatars, messages, and signatures, and it is forbidden to insult users and guests of the portal.
Each author is solely responsible for their messages.
The administration has the right to edit or delete messages and topics at its discretion. Moderators may delete and edit messages in accordance with the rules of the moderators.
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Message from RAPER
In case of a clan member violating the Forum Rules, as well as violating ethical norms of communication, the clan receives a warning. After a repeated violation, a second warning is issued. In case of receiving a third warning, the clan is disbanded, and its Leader is deprived of the right to register clans for a period of 7 months.


Hmm... but what about

Quote:
Main rules of the portal www.HeroesWorld.ru:
Comply with all laws of the Russian Federation.
It is forbidden to use obscene and offensive language in your avatars, messages, and signatures, and it is forbidden to insult users and guests of the portal.
Each author is solely responsible for their messages.
The administration has the right to edit or delete messages and topics at its discretion. Moderators may delete and edit messages in accordance with the rules of the moderators.
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I don't understand... what's wrong????

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If 70% of the clan members are absent for 2-3 months, how will they indicate the reason?

Well, I think not everyone lives in the countryside (for those who access the internet using a phone - it's forgivable)... now there are many places where you can access the World Wide Web (internet cafes, gaming clubs, friends)... and check in on the native portal... and it's best to warn about the reason in advance... say that "you won't be around for some time due to personal problems, for example."

It's not that reprimands and the disbanding of a clan due to someone's foolishness are a collective responsibility, but according to the Basic Rules, the responsibility should be personal...
"You kicked him out – you take responsibility" (and I agree with this), and not "you kicked him out – and everyone gets punished for you"...

There's a saying: "Seven against one." - Clan members should support each other and be collectively responsible for the actions of one member!

What makes you say that?..
A Clan is an in-game, combat-oriented team, not an institute for noble young ladies.
A Clan should participate in tournaments, not uphold the "moral image" of wayward sons...

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the saying about the seven little goats is not relevant in my opinion... it's about something completely different.

The rules clearly state that the author is solely responsible for their messages. However, in the "BASIC RULES FOR CLANS on HeroesWorld," written by esteemed RAPER, it is stated that the entire clan is responsible, which contradicts the Portal's rules.

· A clan is a combat collective of like-minded individuals (players).

And although the word "combat" is used, the word "collective" has long become the defining term within our forum!
Debates on this topic took place at the very beginning, when the first clans were created... I don't want to raise this issue again, as everything has already been explained to everyone.

As I understand it, the clan is responsible along with the author of these words if they relate to other clans. If I misunderstood, then explain how the “BASIC RULES FOR CLANS HeroesWorld:” written by Respected RAPER can be accepted if one of the points directly contradicts the rules and violates them?

Yes, your suggestions are more radical. However, how justified is this strictness? Let's remember how the currently ACTIVE Clans were created. All Leaders had a positive morale of at least two points. However, not all of them had 30-50 posts. Here, you simply understand the situation... For example, what should I write? What should the posts be about? If I write some materials about the second game, it's just 1-2 posts, they are just a little longer and hopefully more informative than the infamous "Titans rule" or "Undead will tear everyone apart." I express some things in the section about the third game, but the more the forum exists, the less there is left to say... Therefore, I think that the requirement of 30-50 posts is still too strict. Besides, there is a whole category of players who only play and hardly write any posts. Now, regarding ideology. Our Clan, for example, does not have any developed ideology. Perhaps we can formulate this point as: "· The representative topic should contain the Clan's charter, as well as the main ideological provisions. Plagiarism (using materials from other Clans) is punishable by a warning to the Clan. · The representative topic may contain the Clan's emblem or other Clan attributes, as well as information about the Clan's achievements and its members." Further. Regarding participation in tournaments. This is a very delicate matter. For example, we have a participant - Mugais - who does not participate in tournaments. But he is engaged in other interesting and useful activities, generating and discussing ideas for the development of Heroes. I have no complaints about him, and I believe that theoretically it is possible to create a Clan that will not participate in tournaments at all, engaging in analytical, literary, translation work, as well as programming and development of Heroes. I think we would be happy with such people. I played a couple of tournaments this year with very modest results, but I write analytical materials about the second game, and many people have already thanked me for it. Now, regarding the excellent suggestion about the absence of people on the forum. Firstly, this point can be highlighted as a separate point. Secondly, I think that this strongly echoes "· If the number of members in the Clan is less than 4 active forum participants, the Clan is given 2 months to complete the composition. If, after this period, the number of active participants remains less than 4, the Clan is disbanded." If your idea was specifically about weeding out "dead souls" from the Clans, let's think more about the wording of your point. And regarding the trial period. Maybe we can soften it to "Each participant must leave at least 25 posts on the forum and have a positive morale"? It may be problematic regarding tournaments. If a person does not play Heroes 3, then you can wait quite a long time for a tournament... Let's continue the discussion!