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Well, in that case, what the heck was all this fuss about? They could have removed the Clans a long time ago. Let me explain it simply...
The so-called "bazaar" wasn't started by RAPER or those who were interested in resolving this issue.
But since RAPER started thinking about it, he posted this information in this thread. And then, as everyone who participated in this thread knows, things unfolded. :)
The topic has been submitted to the Creator for consideration. LeSHiJ-MaX
In general, I am simply outraged by your behavior as a moderator. P.S. Please respond to my posts either in a separate post or in a private message (I hope you know how to do that) and don't perform for the public (You seem to be good at that as a moderator).
I didn't respond with a separate post because it wasn't necessary. Why create a bunch of posts if the discussion is already going in a different direction? The fact that most of the posts are only indirectly related to this topic leads to a change in the subject of discussion, which leads to arguments and spam. And as a result, no one remembers why the argument started and what was being discussed; it just becomes an argument about who is right... And the resolution is delayed.
Hacker, So that I don't have to reread a hundred posts – could you summarize: - which Clans you want to eliminate (names); - why (reason, but please keep it brief); - what for (what changes do you expect from such an action?); - what else would you, as a moderator, like to do before you start cleaning up (maybe there are more important things for you to do on the forum? just your opinion, so we can understand how important and urgent this issue is for you)... Thank you in advance.
Personally, I don't want to eliminate any, but I also don't think it's necessary to keep inactive ones.
Well, I read and read, and I couldn't stand it anymore! What is this?! Seriously, can't you see that this topic wasn't just brought up randomly?!
Some Clans are still quite new, and MAYBE they just haven't had time to prove themselves... Let's not touch them...
But there are some old Clans that are (unfortunately) clearly dead – why clutter up the forum? Like "League of Tournament Fighters," and (unfortunately) "Dark Templars" – there's no one there, so WHY is it needed?
I'll share my opinion on Vanechka's last post (if there are no objections).
A list of Clans needs criteria for "inactivity" – the length of time without activity, whether the activity of one or two members of the Clan will be taken into account, etc. Based on this, it will be possible to remove two or more Clans at the moment.
The reason is that some Clans don't exist and aren't active; their players don't participate in tournaments, and some don't even appear on the portal. That is, the Clan, as a team and Community, doesn't exist – so it needs to be removed. And another problem is newcomers who create Clans and then stop appearing after a week or two. Such Clans are dead from the start.
Changes – Clans won't just be formal associations; they will be created for the game and for the sake of the game. Simply wanting to be a leader or a member of a Clan isn't a reason to create a Clan, IMHO. So there will be fewer Clans, but more active ones, and then it will be possible to create a truly well-thought-out system for inter-Clan tournaments, for example.
That's basically it... I think it's quite logical.
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Tanya, they just wanted to do something good... honestly, I've already organized meat fights with four and six people, you just need to approach it responsibly, but this is, of course, my IMHO...
Zhenya – believe me – they wanted to do something good... ;) Besides, it was summer – many people have more time – and even then, they couldn't find a suitable time.... Believe me – gathering a STRICTLY DEFINED group of people at a specific time for 5-6 hours (or even more) and still avoiding disconnects, connection problems, etc., is VERY difficult... Try to organize a similar "Clan war" with your Clan – you'll see all the problems yourself. Of course, I would really like to do this myself and would gladly participate in such an event – but organizing such a "Clan war" is difficult, difficult, and difficult again...
Tanya, writing a post in all the colors of the rainbow makes it DIFFICULT TO READ Archibald – in this case, it's justified – I was responding to two different posts – it was necessary to highlight this! Second, you don't change Hacker's "signature" blue, do you?;) I often write in purple and/or green... so I think next time, leave everything as it is? Okay? :)
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes: Лидер клана "Из многих единое" Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
Some clans are indeed still young, and MAYBE they just haven't had time to prove themselves... Let's not touch them... But there are also old clans that are (unfortunately) clearly dead - why clutter up the forum???? Like "League of Tournament Fighters," or (unfortunately) "Dark Templars" - there's no one there, so WHY is it needed???
It seems to me that if you had clearly stated your position from the beginning - "we won't touch the new ones; there are old, empty clans like 'League of Tournament Fighters' and 'Dark Templars,' let's get rid of them" - then no one would have argued with you (and especially if there's no one there, you could have quietly deleted them, and then no one would have objected)... But the "activity/inactivity" among existing clans, whose members visit the forum, I consider a relative criterion and complete nonsense...
My words also applied to the old clans... it's time to remove them.
Arandor, please understand that after such posts, misunderstandings and arguments will start again. Please be more specific: - name - why (numbers? ratings? forum activity?) - what for - how relevant and pressing is the issue
Added 1 minute later P.S. I'm afraid this is my last post in this thread... I don't see much point in arguing... unfortunately...
Quoting my message about which Clans need to be disbanded... Message #63 in this topic ==================================================================== Okay, let's try analyzing the activity of the Clans based on these rules.
Let's look at the clan composition: "Guardians of Illiar" KRuGeR1991 Last activity: 30.08.2007 20:31 Dice Last activity: 21.06.2007 02:51 Bladson Last activity: 27.07.2007 18:42 iseM@N Last activity: 14.05.2007 13:31 Here are the first four members of the "Guardians of Illiar" clan... Hmm...
Next: Clan "League of Tournament Soldiers" natasha Last activity: 04.11.2006 01:08 PALADIN Last activity: 23.11.2006 02:48 nprf Last activity: 07.12.2006 07:44 Pred Last activity: 29.11.2006 04:23 This is a complete mess....
Of course, these aren't all the Clans. There's also the case where the leader visits the forum regularly, but the members don't... But if the leader doesn't visit the forum, then the clan definitely won't be active.
These are the first Clans that should be disbanded. Or, there's an option for someone to want to revive the Clan; in that case, they can become its leader and recruit new players.
If anyone is interested in one of the listed Clans and is willing to become its leader and recruit a new team, please write me a private message or in this topic.
post 63 written 14.09.2007, 15:18 Hasn't the hacker done that yet? And haven't those who wanted to create their own clan had enough time to report it? I think that in 40 days, everyone has already decided whether they need a clan or not.
In short, delete these clans. Or do you think this topic isn't slowing down the forum?
In general, I read and read, and couldn't stand it anymore! What is this PIIIIIIIIIIIIII?! Seriously, don't you guys understand that this topic wasn't just brought up randomly?! Some Clans are indeed still young, and MAYBE they just haven't had time to prove themselves... Let's not touch them... But there are also old Clans that are (unfortunately) clearly dead - why clutter up the forum???? Like "League of Tournament Fighters," and also (unfortunately) "Dark Templars" - there's no one there, so WHY is it needed???
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Well, which Clans are so smart that they should be touched only as a last resort, because they might be tried to be revived, and the topics annoy more than a dead Clan!
Added after 2 minutes RAPER;120484
I'll explain it simply!!!! 1) Each Clan gets its own separate subforum!!!! 2) 20 topics don't put as much load on the forum as 20 subforums where no one communicates anyway... 3) I think it's useless to warn the leaders (of dead) Clans, because many of them haven't appeared for a long time!!!!!!
Added after 1 minute ps A couple of dead Clans can also be deleted without return - and I think this won't bother anyone, because neither the leader nor the members of the Clan visit the portal!
Yeah, right, Einstein, you calculated who burdens whom, but what if you think for a couple more minutes, because if that's the case, why create a website if you're afraid of it being overloaded:smile35:
Well, all the clans seem to be very smart; you should only touch them as a last resort, because they might try to revive them, and the topics annoy people more than a dead clan!
Actually, if you read the topic CAREFULLY, the suggestion to revive dead clans was already made a long time ago by Hacker. No one responded. And the members of the "Dark Templars" and "Tournament Fighters League" clans (including the leaders) haven't appeared on the forum since last year! So, what else is there to talk about? There's no need to throw around loud phrases about how smart everyone is... First, check all the facts before you become a laughingstock....If anything, you're acting pretty smart yourself.
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело. Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:
Actually, if you read the thread CAREFULLY, the suggestion to revive the dead clans was already made a long time ago by Hacker. No one responded. And the members of the "Dark Templars" and "League of Tournament Fighters" clans (including the leaders) haven't appeared on the forum since last year! So, what else is there to talk about? There's no need to throw around grand statements like everyone is so smart... First, check all the facts before you become a laughingstock....If anything, you're acting pretty smart yourself.
I apologize for writing; I promised not to write in this thread, but I couldn't resist: And from our side, it's funnier to us than it is to you. It's a shame Nimizida didn't have time to respond to you. And your message smells like flame and spam...
I apologize for writing; I promised not to post in this thread, but I couldn't resist. And from our side, it's funnier for us than it is for you. It's a shame Nimizida didn't have time to reply to you. And your message reeks of flame and spam...
Don't break your promises. And please, don't switch to "you" form! Actually, if you haven't noticed, Nimizida wrote his post no less rudely => "the message reeks of flame and spam."
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело. Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:
Guys, let's all get along! Please express yourselves in a less harsh manner and be considerate of the ladies, otherwise, you're not acting very heroically! This post is off-topic, of course, but I can't just stand by and watch the arguing.
I don't understand where the flame and spam are here????? Spam is a continuous, monotonous, repetitive action or message.... Flame is pointless chatter....
This message cannot be attributed to either of these groups.....!!!!!! So before you say something, you should think first!!!!
Vlad
