Posts from Mafia 110. Heckelia Auto-translated

Piona is doing a good job; for the reasons mentioned earlier, she ruined Inar's setup and the redirection from the Mafia.

Makka was Aolus. As far as I'm concerned, Albei would be described differently, and he fits the role of a member of the mercenary organization Chinax and, probably, his long-term subordinate better than the others.

I don't really like Tox because, on the second night, when it was already clear that Nebok was the one killing in the first night, he was still trying to frame Neira as Albei, even though Alm is simply incapable of killing her. Initially, I thought he was Albei himself, pretending to be a dead person, without noticing the attempts to impersonate Shendet. Moreover, Shendet is not a role that benefits from revealing himself in the game, considering that the Negatives gain more from it. But this is still Tox, and he likes to go out of his way to act like a Negative, even when playing for the Town. And we know for sure that he (as well as Ment and Yashur) is not the Serial Killer.

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Ah, and Crabbi can't be the Serial Killer either; I completely forgot about him.

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While Tox is a shady type who can easily justify why the Mafia doesn't target him (they don't want to provoke Shendet!) and scare off the Town (so that the kill doesn't go to waste), while at the same time distracting checkers or blockers (whom Lo can ignore), I'm still not sure if this is just a result of his strange playstyle. I don't remember Tox particularly guessing clues, but I don't remember how often he does it in general. In any case, the Mafia (especially the one who can't be executed) has a much lower priority than Inar (who is strong on his own) or Necoran (who can go wild if something happens to Theodore). Possible candidates for the Serial Killer, based on block-isolation, are:
MedjersoN_HP
Nefela
Morning
Tiel
Arandor
Heroist
MasteR
Me

Tox and Ment are ruled out due to the previously mentioned isolations with blocks. Crabbi is ruled out because he fell victim to black magic, which Shendet could not steal and use on Necoran himself, and to which Inar is immune. And this is without mentioning the fact that Inar was most likely in isolation and would not have appeared in the newspaper. For the same reason, I cannot be Inar either. Unfortunately, I cannot prove by analyzing the newspaper that I cannot be Necoran.

MedjersoN_HP
Nefela
Morning
Tiel
Arandor
Heroist
MasteR
I

I'm ready to eliminate Gumer and MedjersoN.

As for the others, I'd rather not, either for personal reasons or due to their activity in the game...

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I'm really looking forward to the game where I draw the black card and you all think I'm a peaceful player. XD

I could try to identify who I find suspicious based on their psychology, but I'm not very good at that, and I don't know or remember the playing styles of other players very well. I would only mention Loca, who hardly participates and offers little constructive input, but that could easily be due to being busy or having a weak interest in the game. Or it could be due to his playing style. In other words, I don't think this is a strong enough reason for a ban.

Now, let's look at the snail riddles. If we still consider "periny" to be the answer, we can build this chain:

Periny -> Sardanapal -> Assyria -> Judean Kingdom -> David -> Medj's avatar

Well, that's what came to mind. I'm not claiming this is a high-quality solution. And I apologize to Medj that this is the third (or is it?) time I've identified him as a Berber based on the list in the newspaper post.

4 negative traits + an unpunishable ruler... well, in principle, it's possible, but I don't know how worthwhile it is.

Well, I wasn't suggesting anyone be executed just yet. I was just suggesting we take a closer look.

Yashur and Moni, who don't want to play

Yashur wants to play, but he doesn't understand what's going on at all...

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Vova Vist looked very depressed and didn't want to talk to anyone.

Well, he isolated himself from society... Right? Why did everyone decide that this was the act of a maniac???

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along with her, the hope of the Heckelian people for a happy future definitely died.

Nowadays, he leads the research started by Chinax's team and shows great promise for the progress of Visterian science.

a team of scientists led by Weiling managed to discover a new method of processing and theoretical use of certain minerals that the south of Vistaria was rich in. If the theorists' assumptions are correct, this discovery could mark the beginning of a technological revolution and a new era in the history of Vistaria.

And what the hell is Rafaga?...

Well, he isolated himself from society... Right? Why did everyone decide that this was the act of a maniac???

Inar's isolation is not reflected.

And what the hell is Rafaga?...

On the first night, he killed Nebok/Alm; we already know this for sure. He was the one who started promoting the idea on the first night that it wasn't Rafaga who acted, but a Fortress. The description of the death is very specific and only fits a couple of roles, only one of which is male. And this is where the whole point lies, because the Fortress cannot kill a female character, but only blocks them for two nights. From all this, a simple conclusion follows: Rafaga was removed from the game.

Rafaga is there, Rafaga.

What if both Sky/Alm and the real Rafaga came to Neira, huh?

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Inar's isolation isn't displayed.

I meant Dario's isolation.

Revan, would the block from Alma and the kill from Rafagi be displayed in that case?

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I meant the isolation of Dario.

Dario, as far as I know, visited you. Either way, I don't think his isolation would be described in that way.

Regardless, the mafia (especially the one who can't be executed) has a much lower priority for us than Inar (who is strong on his own) or Necoran (who might go wild if something happens to Theodore).

Okay, fine. I still think that identifying any negativity is useful for the town, and even the mafia can be executed – there will be fewer murders at night, and it will be easier to get a block. I think Necoran should be identified through blocks. And there are (including the mafia block) as many as four blocks left. Since puppets are displayed in the newspaper, and he can't win without puppets, the days when puppets are summoned will narrow the search. Inar can be guessed based on clues, but even if he kills without clues, he can still die from Chinax. He can only win if someone else kills Chinax.

I think Necoran should be analyzed in stages. And there are four stages left (including the Mafia one). Since the puppets are mentioned in the newspaper, and he can't win without them, the days when the puppets are summoned will narrow down the search.

Black magic is also mentioned, which helps with the stages. And clues are given for creating the puppets. But I think Necoran won't start creating them until Chinax and Theodore are still alive. Most likely, he will only start doing it when it allows him to either have a lead in the votes or maintain control of the city in a tie.

You can guess about Inara based on the clues, but even if he kills without clues, he can still be eliminated by Chinax. He can only win if Chinax is killed by someone else.

As I understand it, Chinax will simply remove Inara's protection, but won't kill him. But we need clarification from Revan.

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Okay. I still think that identifying any negativity is useful for the city, even the Mafia can be executed - there will be fewer murders at night, and it will be easier to block.

The problem with the Mafia is that even if we identify one of them, we can only execute one. We only have three ways to eliminate a player at the moment: Shizuo's night action (the most reliable way), Inara's explosives, and Necoran's actions. And even Shendet can't block it, as her murder ignores blocks. She's not a Mafia member, but more like a quasi-maniac.

Night action from Shizuo (the most reliable method)

Shizuo cannot kill...

Oh, I seem to have missed that. So, only Shendet has a 1 in 3 chance to steal the correct Neutral Difficulty from her. What do you think of this "weak mafia," Tox?

Okay, I see that a lot of people are confused. I'll go over the interpretation of both newspapers that we came to again. If anything is unclear, Ples will correct me. Night 1: Alm-Sky kills Rafaga-Neyra. I am isolated by Dario. Ment is blocked. Fragment purges Neko. Inar places explosives on Sky. Floria visits Sky. Night 2: The explosives detonate. Alm-Sky and Fragment-One-Eye, who went to kill him, die. There is also a third victim with an unrevealed role, who was healed by Albea. Yashura isolates Dario. Crabby purges Neko. Mold defends Aulus. Lo successfully forged the orders. Floria visits me. Added 1 minute ago I personally will continue to believe that Makka was Dario. And there is also a pretty good version from Nefi that the feather is not a clue, but an indication of another redirection, from Shizuo. Added 2 minutes ago Oh, I just remembered my logic for why I was so sure that Ment was a town member on the first day. I was more than sure that the best move for Shizuo on the first night would be to use Inar's self-isolation (if there is no immunity, of course). And then do something else crazy. Now I'm not so sure about this logic, so I can assume that Shizuo was playing around with something else, for example, a mafia check.