Posts from Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors

Tox, calculate what the luck level should be for me to not only ask you to write a quest for me, but also for us, with our not-so-bad real-life acquaintance, to end up in the same team...

You two are like a married couple. You live together throughout the game, get along great, argue during the day, he gets over it, but she keeps sulking, even though you both provoke each other.

Girls always come up with nonsense faster and take longer to get over it :D

Tox, I haven't named or specified my role even once in 3 games; you might have gotten used to it.

Let's assume, just assume, that Alex and Gumer are both mafia. Explain this to me:

I can believe in the Alex - Heroist pairing, I can believe in the Alex - Nefela pairing. The Alex - Gumer pairing is something out of science fiction.

Heroist doesn't give up his peaceful role easily. You defend yours. I can hope for green ink in my envelope. We don't see anyone who would be pushing the Master. Why? Is it psychology?

Why are the pairs exactly like this? Who among us has the same status?

As a paranoid thought:

Are we sure we put up the double protection? Or did we have a shot from Arandor that broke the protection?

We definitely eliminated Player Two. It seems like Alex is moving things along as the Master. That's precisely why, since I don't understand the Master's logic in pairing players, I still suspect that he's the Mafia member...

3 checks. 4 people.

This leads to pairs. In one of the status pairs, there's an inaccuracy. Or 2 unknowns. We don't know if all 4 statuses of the presumed Despair are known.

And if Humer and Alex have the same statuses, then the second mafia member is not Humer. Or not Alex.

And who is it? Yes, I will consider the version with the Heroesist being the mafia.

Nephela, I want to share a thought with you. Please don't get offended, don't get upset, just listen and point out any logical errors if you see them. The hypothesis is as follows: The Master is Despair. To consider this, you need to accept that I am a town member, okay? On the third day, he attacks Alex and calls Happiness to him. Also, somewhere in the thread, the Master posted a message directly stating to Alex that after they took down Suffering's defense, Alex (specifically Alex!) would not be able to be targeted when his execution defense is down. We draw an intermediate conclusion 1: The Master saw Alex in a dream, and that's why he called Happiness to him. Seeing that Happiness was already with him, he assigned Alex to us as the First Warrior. Now, let's move on to the second question. Why does the Master claim that Alex-Gumer is an unrealistic pairing? Because they most likely have the same status. For the Master, Alex is definitely mafia, and I am definitely a town member. Therefore, he didn't even need to call Happiness to you; for him, Gumer was Happiness based on the remaining options. I think something in this chain is clearly broken. We just need to figure out what it is. If the Master saw Alex in a dream and considered him the First Warrior, then why did he specifically prevent Gumer from being his second mafia partner? Until we solve this mystery, we must play based on the probability that the Master is mafia, and Despair is Alex

And who is that? Yes, I will consider the version with a Mafia Heroist.

Regarding psychology? If so, then how is the Master more peaceful than the Heroist?

In short, the Master probably didn't see Gumer and Alex in his dreams; it just doesn't make sense...

Okay, I'm not a master, but I'll vouch for him. LET'S SAY he tested me, and I was decent. And he tested not Gumer. He tested Heroist and Nefelu, and they were both terrible, and neither of them had enough roles.

Alex, if he saw Nefela as a nightmare, then why call upon Happiness to come to her specifically? That's also completely illogical; Nefela cannot be Happiness in this scenario...

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This lack of logic in the Master's actions, if he is indeed Despair, is what makes me doubt.

Well, that was yesterday. And he's whitewashing Gumera today. Or he's just a mafia member and got a little carried away.

No, on the third day he wrote that Alex/Gumer are in opposition, that Gumer is more peaceful, and that happiness should go to Alex!

Why do this if he didn't check Gumer? That's why?!

It seems Alex is the one making the moves.

You should remember the topic better than I do.

Is Alex doing this only today, or was he doing it yesterday too?

I don't have much faith in my own psychology, but Alex also fits into the category of people with peaceful behavior.

Therefore, he didn't even need to call Happiness to you; for him, the remaining part of Gumer was equivalent to Happiness.

Most likely, Happiness, after visiting me, would have provided arguments for my execution, without needing to walk the tightrope of modding.

Yeah, but in the end, happiness went to the Master himself...

Nothing seems to work out, anyway. We'll think about it again tomorrow. We really need Gumer.

I wasn't here at all yesterday.

Again, if the mafia is Alex/Nefela, then why the hell didn't Gumer give us Nefela as a safe player by going to her? It's so complicated!

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Seriously, I'm putting myself in Gumer-Happiness's shoes. I was unavailable yesterday, and Master is leading the town. Master writes that he has two pairs on the remaining mafia candidates. Master asks Happiness to go to Nefela. If I were the town's Gumer-Happiness, I would do just that. It's the most logical, simple, and correct move.

Protecting Nefela that night would have given us everything! There are only three candidates left for Happiness: me, Gumer, and Master. I'm not considered for obvious reasons, and Master won't start attacking Gumer, trying to expose himself as Happiness, because after his behavior on the third day, that would just be a fail.

We would then have a guaranteed safe Gumer, and we could calmly sort things out.

But Gumer either didn't make that move, or he's simply not Happiness!

And if he's not Happiness, then Nefela is a guaranteed safe player! And we just need to figure out the Master-Alex pair!

In short, I just don't know, with each post, I'm increasingly convinced that Gumer-Master are the mafia...

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And again, I come to the conclusion that it's safest for us and Heroist to lynch Gumer...

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In short, Master, if the mafia is Alex-Nefela, then I personally apologize to you. But I don't believe in Gumer being safe, and you were the one defending him...

If he, as Happiness, messed everything up with his move towards you, then we deserve to lose.

Cancel the vote on Nefela, lynch Gumer

He didn't even need to call Happiness to her; for him, the remaining Gummer represented Happiness.

It's all simple. I called Happiness to Neffela not for myself, but for you, so you could see that there isn't another peaceful role for her.

In short, I've reviewed the topic. Neffela is still more likely to be a Mafia member than a Hero (most likely). Okay. But let's not start throwing votes around yet. ToX, vote for Alex. Neffela, if you claim to have any peacefulness at all, you owe Alex a vote.

In general, there's a ton of information right now. And you've even started to think correctly; not all is lost. All my actions, starting from the first day, can be easily justified logically, and I haven't contradicted myself even once. If you want to, you can read it. If you lose the game in this situation, you simply won't have an excuse.