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My Uland received an expert diploma at level 6, I think, but the result was still bad...
Ideally, 2 diplomats should have been scouting the map, and the third should have been waiting in the boat for the troops... If going by sea... And someone probably cleared the dragons before joining the Gorgons, right, Dim? :D
Or am I wrong? :)
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For the report, you'll upload the save file before joining the Gargons here. I'd like to see what they might surrender on the second week. My army composition was like this on the third week during scouting:
Snakes Up = 18
Basilisks Up = 17
Hydras = 4
Pegasus Up = 36
Wyverns Up = 8
Gargons Up = 12
Warlock = 1

I tried removing one slot (except for the Warlock) - no luck - those bastards didn't surrender :)

What the...? You even built Hydras...? And why didn't you have Swordsmen?
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I tried removing one of the slots (except for the Sorceress) - no luck - those guys wouldn't budge.
You should have taken the shield; it was lying around in the north - then it would have been easier to recruit them... They are very susceptible to trinkets... :D
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Ideally, two diplomats should have been scouting the area, while the third waited in the boat for the troops... If they were going by sea... And I think someone was probably taking out the dragons before joining the Gorgons, right Dim? :D
Or am I wrong? :)

That couldn't have happened, Amber. Even if he did defeat the dragons, there would definitely be nothing left of the army, and then he still had to join...
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Here, scouting is the ultimate scouting: I had to “sift through” all the heroes. Without the digging skill, I would have been completely stuck.
There were many diplomats, but I needed to find one who had diplomacy skills at an expert level early on, plus either logistics or pathfinding. I couldn't find any with logistics.
When I realized this, it was too late. Besides, the shovel was already smoking.
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What the...? You even built Hydras...? And why weren't there any Swordsmen?
Hydras joined... On the island, I think...
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Ideally, two diplomats should have been scouting the area, while the third waited in the boat for the troops... If going by sea... And someone was probably clearing out the dragons before joining the Gorgons, right Dim? :D
Or am I wrong? :)

No, I sailed by sea.
If you have Crystal Dragons, clearing them doesn't really give you much advantage – you end up facing Rust Dragons. So, I joined the Wyverns and Gorgons and went straight through.

Here's the save file with the joining...
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Кто сильнее или шаблон для сравнения городов по силе.
Различие офф-лайна в Heroes II и Heroes III.
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Before the Gorgons, you still needed to add the Wyvern Monarchs – they are more “compliant”.
Oh, I just forgot to add that – I’ve been spamming spells all day, and I finally finished it today :) I had 12 Gargons with me.
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Hydras joined... On the island, I think...

So, he probably wasn't talking about those Hydras; there were supposed to be 10 of them initially...
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You should have taken the shield; it was lying around in the north – then it would have been easier to annex... They are so easily swayed by trinkets... :D
Does the attack + defense + strength + knowledge skill get taken into account when surrendering?
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Hey, are attack, defense, strength, and knowledge skills taken into account when surrendering?

No, they are not taken into account when surrendering, but when joining.
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Maybe he's not talking about those Hydras; there were supposedly 10 of them initially...
I remember clearly – 4 Hydras joined... near the swamp castle. But you needed a stronger army... i.e., you needed some monks or swordsmen... Basically, you just needed to build an optimal scheme for joining troops in terms of minimizing time... through trial and error... But it took a long time to figure it out, even with cheats.
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Seriously? You even built Hydras...? But why weren't there any Swordsmen?
:) What Swordsmen? By the third week, I didn't have time to gather troops anymore; I was focused on conquering. Kirill leveled up his diplomacy to expert level, I don't even know how long it took, and I didn't have any other diplomats. At first, I was leveling up Edrik, but then I gave up on him, but he managed to gain enough experience to reach level 8. :) That dog :) So he remained a support unit. :) I understood that I needed to try to finish the game by at least the third week because I suspected, just like you, that the leaders would be somewhere in the early third week.
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Hey, are attack, defense, strength, and knowledge skills taken into account when surrendering?
Of course! Attack and defense are counted. The others are not... Well, get out of the tank already... :)
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I remember exactly – 4 hydras joined... There, near the swamp castle. But you needed a stronger army... That is, you needed to have some monks or swordsmen... Basically, you just needed to build an optimal scheme for joining troops in terms of minimizing time... Through trial and error... But it took a long time to do even with cheats.

Well, you confused me, because you were talking about an island, and there were 10 hydras on the island...:)
And everyone had their own scheme in mind, but some people just came up with a better one. ;)
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