Posts from SoY-2: Online Tournaments "Seasons of year" - "Seasons of year" - Autumn Season 2007

I thought it over, consulted, and made a decision: we will ban the ability to add monsters, but diplomacy can remain and be developed, but it should only be used for buying off enemies.
I am making changes to the rules.
Of course, we can discuss it, but the decision is final and will not be subject to further changes.

it isn't even chosen! The map number and participants are only revealed right before the game!!! about 1.5 minutes beforehand...;);)

It isn't chosen at all! The participants find out the map number only before the game!!! About 1.5 minutes before...;);)

That's what I meant when I said how it's decided which map the game will be played on. Thanks for the info.

Dear tournament participants! I won't be available on Saturday, and possibly on Sunday as well. The games scheduled for these days will be managed by Evgeny; he has helped me out many times before, so please contact him and play!

I thought about it, discussed it, and made a decision: we will ban the recruitment of monsters, but diplomacy can still be used and developed, but only for buying off enemies.
I am making changes to the rules.
Of course, we can discuss it, but the decision is final and will not be changed further.

What about Rusty and other monsters (if there are any on the map) that can definitely be recruited based on the map's design?
Please explain.

VuzZzA ((Rampart)) vs Amster ((Stronghold)). Map: one and one #3.
On the 6th day of the 2nd week, the opponent surrendered. It's a pity, the map is a bit strange, but interesting...
VuzZzA win.

NEWS:
Let's welcome the third semi-finalist. The great and terrible...VuzzzZZZzzzaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Having crushed all opponents in his group, he rightfully took first place and is now a prime contender for the "Autumn Cup".

I also had to turn to this topic (((
By the way, +1 to banning diplomacy;)
The thing is, in a game between Alex_R & Moriart, one of the players dug up the Grail but hadn't built it yet... the question arose - is it allowed to play with the Grail?
...due to the controversial situation, the game had to be stopped until the issue was clarified with the tournament organizer....

Also, I would like all the rules regarding prohibited artifacts, spells, skills, etc., to be highlighted in a separate post, as I couldn't find them anywhere, and I have to constantly clarify these points with the tournament organizers.

Let me explain the situation in more detail...
Mori@rt(Tower, Aine) vs Alex_R
Map #3, One&One.
I'll say right away that I didn't participate in the last "Seasons" tournament, just like many other participants in this (autumn) tournament.
Before signing up, I read the rules and didn't find anything about the Grail. After signing up, I kept track of changes to the rules so I wouldn't miss anything (like army merging). The Grail wasn't banned during the tournament. Now, about the game...
There are 8 obelisks on the map, 6 of which are in neutral territory.
I found out the name of the map a few minutes before the game. I looked it over and saw that I could view all the obelisks (except for one) without going into the opponent's territory. I came up with a plan for the game:
1. Use Goblins to quickly break through the dungeon's defenses.
2. Send 2-3 more heroes in there.
3. Collect the obelisks.
4. Dig up the Grail.
Based on this, I didn't develop my Castle the way I would have if there wasn't a Grail.
And on day 1.3.7 - it happened - I dug it up. I immediately sent it in a chain to the Castle to start building.
The main hero and one assistant (who were digging) remained standing, losing their turn. Then Alex attacked me.
No problem, I thought, the Grail is with another hero. And Aine will just run away, and it will be easier later. But suddenly, Alex tells me that I'm not allowed to dig up the Grail. :( Even though the rules don't forbid it.
And if something isn't forbidden, then it's allowed, especially if there are obelisks on the map.

Amidst all the discussion, I'd like to ask my own question: For example, the hero Solmyr is banned, but can another hero learn his Chain Lightning spell and use it through the "Literacy" skill? And I'd also like to clarify: can banned heroes be used until their level increases BY two levels or UP TO level 2, after which such a hero must be dismissed?

Amidst the general commotion, I'd also like to ask my question:
For example, the hero Solmir is banned, but can another hero learn his Chain Lightning spell and use it through the "Literacy" skill?
And I'd also like to clarify: can banned heroes be used until their level increases by TWO levels, or up to level 2, after which such a hero must be dismissed?

Of course, it's possible... but on many maps, Solmir doesn't have Chain Lightning, but rather a regular Lightning spell in the book. And sometimes it's just a simple arrow. Regarding heroes, their level shouldn't increase by 2. That is, if they were level 5, you should dismiss them at the end of the day when they reach level 7.

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Let me explain the situation in more detail...
Mori@rt (Tower, Aine) vs. Alex_R
Map #3, One&One.
I'll immediately say that I didn't participate in the previous "Seasons" tournament, nor did many other participants in this (autumn) tournament.
Before signing up, I read the rules and didn't find anything about the Grail. After signing up, I kept track of changes to the rules so as not to miss anything (for example, army merging). The Grail wasn't banned during the tournament. Now about the game...
There are 8 obelisks on the map, 6 of which are in neutral territory.
I learned the name of the map a few minutes before the game. I looked it over and saw that I could view all the obelisks (except for one) without going into the opponent's territory. I came up with a plan for the game:
1. Use the Gremlins to quickly break through the Dungeon's defenses.
2. Send 2-3 more heroes there.
3. Collect the obelisks.
4. Dig up the Grail.
Based on this, I didn't develop the Castle as I would if there were no Grail.
And on day 1.3.7, it happened - I dug it up. I immediately sent it to the Castle to start building.
The main hero and one assistant (who were digging) remained standing, losing their turn. Then Alex attacked me.
No problem, I thought, the Grail is with another hero. And Aine will just run away, and it will be easier later. But suddenly, Alex tells me that I'm not allowed to dig up the Grail. :( Even though it's not prohibited by the rules.
And what is not prohibited is allowed, especially if there are obelisks on the map.

The Grail is not prohibited. It's not stated in the rules. I believe you should continue the game.

Also, please clarify regarding rusty dragons and other monsters that are 100% available for hire. Can they be hired or not?
Also, please make changes to the first topic of the thread "[TOURNAMENT] Online Tournament "Seasons" Autumn 2007" so that there are no problems.

I'm in favor of completely banning the hiring of any monsters. Otherwise, the tournament rules should remain unchanged. With respect, !!!I!!! %)

Sage (Castle: Valeska, Valeska) VS Kamikaze (Stronghold: Gurnisson, Gurnisson). Map: One & One. Sage lost on 3-4-3. In general, the game was long – six and a half hours. I saw the map for the first time and had the map editor open. I chose a strategy focused on developing cavalry because the map wasn't very large, although it was swampy. Blue had a slightly better starting position and began clearing the dungeon first, but his hero with 1 goblin (who was clearing the dungeon) soon died at the hands of Valeska. In principle, I was a little faster at claiming territory. Around the middle of the second month, the first encounter between Valeska and Gurnisson took place. Valeska had to pay a ransom after almost her entire army was destroyed, leaving the enemy with 3 upgraded monsters, 1 thunderbird, and about 30 upgraded orcs. Then, Valeska, with a two-week growth advantage, attacked blue again, who, in turn, with the remnants of his army and 2 phoenixes bought at the outpost, went to attack red. However, they missed each other in the dungeon. I should have attacked, but I decided that blue would only have about a week's worth of growth in his castle, so on the 7th day, the castle was stormed. I didn't pay close enough attention to the number of defenders, and as a result, the battle was lost without a chance of winning. Valeska fled the battlefield. Gurnisson went to the red castle, not bothering with the mines, but was defeated (paid a ransom of 1 monster and ten upgraded orcs) by Valeska. Then there were a couple of weeks of truce (you can't really move around much in the swamp). On 3-3-1, another battle took place in the swamp: Valeska 10-8-8-6 60 mana _______________ Gurnisson 15-6-5-6 60 mana Combat skills: expert leadership, water magic, archery, ______??? ordinary slow, lightning, bless initial armor. Bless, ice arrow 210 damage. 89 archers..............................................10 cyclops kings 54 crusaders..........................................59 wolf riders 3 archangels...............................................105 orc chieftains 25 fanatics.............................................6 ancient beings 13 champions.............................................21 thunderbirds 76 royal griffins............................343 hopgoblins 35 grand elves.........................................55 ogre shamans Valeska attacked in open territory. Gurnisson was forced to pay a ransom of 16 ogre shamans. Valeska had 33 crusaders left. However, after losing the battle, blue won the war because, about a week later, he arrived with a superior army (about 1-1.5 growth advantage) and stormed the red castle; the cyclops kings broke down the gates, after which the defenders' resistance was quickly suppressed. What else can I say? I couldn't implement the strategy for the map due to too reckless actions in the second month of the game. I had as many as 3 heroes with the +350 gold specialty. Therefore, I didn't build even 2000 gold in the castle for a long time. There were no slow or haste spells in the first guild of mages. The opponent had slow. It turns out, Kamikaze dug up the Grail, and I somehow missed that moment (obelisks have become part of the landscape for me, I don't even remember when I last dug up a Grail). Thank you, Kamikaze, for the game.

Please give me a moment of your time! There has been a player change in groups 5 and 6.
Tieru has been replaced by Sage, and DarkKnight has been replaced by Amster, as Anton (Tieru) was hospitalized, and DarkKnight declined to participate due to a lack of time. Tieru is not seriously injured and is ready to continue in the tournament.
I offer my sincerest apologies to Sage, on behalf of the organizer and myself.
Tieru needs to play his games as soon as possible.
I especially apologize to FreeZtyleR, Dudge, and Kamikaze.
You will need to play these games as soon as possible, but given the circumstances, we can add a certain amount of time; this is up to Adelaide to decide. ;)

That's all for now.
Sincerely, ewgeniy

Tieru wasn't seriously injured and is ready to continue the tournament.
I offer my sincerest apologies to Sage, on behalf of the organizer and myself.

Tieru (or his friend) has already informed me about this in ICQ, and I don't object to his return.