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Gremlins:
English pilots first began talking about them during the Second World War.
During flights, for no apparent reason, engines and machine guns would suddenly start acting up, and sights and other instruments would malfunction. The occurrence was difficult to explain, as aircraft were generally thoroughly checked before every takeoff.
Counterintelligence officers worked themselves to exhaustion searching for Nazi saboteurs. But what Counterintelligence and numerous commissions failed to do, the rank-and-file pilots achieved — they found the culprits. They turned out to be tiny evil spirits. They nested in the aircraft — in the slots and under the cladding — and played pranks. They were dubbed gremlins. After some time, gremlins appeared in America. But unlike the English gremlins, they settled in other types of machinery as well.
There were those who took them seriously and those who were skeptics. Refusing to believe in evil spirits, the latter ridiculed them in every way. Walt Disney was among the skeptics, employing a caricatured image of gremlins. From sinister creatures, they were transformed into funny, cute rascals. Laughter killed the belief, and by the end of the war, people stopped talking about them.

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Gremlin (Eng.Gremlin) — a mythical creature]], a malicious prankster, akin to a domovoy.

Apparently, the term first appeared in 1940 among English pilots and aviation technicians during the Battle of Britain. The first publication about the gremlin "phenomenon" was a story in the "Royal Air Force Journal" from April 181942.
It is believed that gremlins love to settle in the engines of cars, planes, and other machinery. It is precisely because of their pranks that equipment won't start or even breaks down. To appease gremlins, it was customary to use a mixture of beer and machine oil, which was poured into a tin can and placed in the immediate vicinity of the technical unit.


But this is just as an aside... It's just that if you're going to create creatures, you should create them... rather than using a caricature...
Ничего нет только у мёртвого - у живого есть хотя бы жизнь...
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Gremlins:
English pilots first started talking about them during the Second World War.
During flights, motors and machine guns would suddenly begin to act up for no reason, and sights and other instruments would malfunction. This was difficult to explain, as aircraft were generally thoroughly checked before every flight.
Counterintelligence officers worked themselves to exhaustion searching for Nazi saboteurs. But what Counterintelligence and numerous commissions failed to do, the ordinary pilots achieved — they found the culprits. They turned out to be tiny evil spirits. They nested in the aircraft — in the grooves and under the plating — and played pranks. They were dubbed gremlins. After some time, gremlins appeared in America. But unlike the English gremlins, they settled in other types of machinery as well.
There were those who took them seriously and there were skeptics. Refusing to believe in evil spirits, they mocked them in every way. Walt Disney was among the skeptics, employing a caricatured image of gremlins. From sinister creatures, they were transformed into funny, cute rascals. Laughter killed the belief, and by the end of the war, people stopped talking about them.

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Gremlin (EnglishGremlin) — a mythical creature]], a malicious prankster, akin to a domovoy.

Apparently, the term first appeared in 1940 among English pilots and aviation technicians during the Battle of Britain. The first publication regarding the gremlin "phenomenon" was a story in the "Royal Air Force Journal" from April 181942.
It is believed that gremlins love to settle in the engines of cars, airplanes, and other machinery. It is because of their antics that machinery fails to start or even breaks down. To appease gremlins, it was customary to use a mixture of beer and machine oil, which was poured into a tin can and placed in close proximity to the technical unit.


But that's just an aside... Just that if you're going to make creatures, then make them... rather than using a caricature...
Thanks for the story, but if we do everything according to myths, then Titans should be monsters, but here they are completely different, and Zombies shouldn't be like that, nor Gargoyles, and Golems according to myths should actually grow, and Elves shouldn't be like Tolkien's at all, and Imps should be different, not to mention Poltergeists, and Mist Ghosts shouldn't die immediately
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Thanks for the story, but if everything were based on mythology, then Titans should be monsters, but here they are completely different, and zombies shouldn't be like that either, and neither should gargoyles. Golems, according to mythology, should grow, and elves shouldn't be like Tolkien's elves. Demons should also be different, and I'm not even talking about poltergeists; ethereal ghosts shouldn't die immediately.

Titans - in mythology, they are not monsters.

Zombies - an animated corpse, incapable of thinking, feeling, or making independent decisions, existing only to carry out the orders of its creator - a sorcerer. How are the Zombies in the game incorrect?

Elves:
Elves are similar to humans, only smaller, more beautiful, and more refined. They live in forests and lead a nocturnal lifestyle.
In early Germanic-Scandinavian mythology, they are an ageless, magical, beautiful race, living like humans on Earth, or in their own magical country, which was also described as physically real (since, according to legends, people go there and return alive). This view of elves, partially preserved, even reached the Middle Ages and remained imprinted in language, names, culture, and genealogy.
So, everything is basically correct.

Demons - yes, demons should be different.

Ghosts - yes, the instant death of ghosts is a drawback.
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Titans — in myths, they aren't monsters.

Zombies — a reanimated corpse, incapable of thinking, feeling, or making independent decisions, existing only to execute the orders of its creator — a sorcerer. In what way are Zombies in the Game incorrect?

Elves:
Elves are similar to humans, only smaller, more beautiful, and more refined. They live in forests and lead a nocturnal lifestyle.
In early Germanic-Scandinavian mythology — an ageless, magic-wielding, beautiful race, living on Earth like humans, or in their magical land, which was also described as physically real (since according to legends, people enter and return from there alive). Such a representation of the alfar, partially preserved, reached even the Middle Ages, remaining imprinted in language, names, culture, and genealogy.
So, in principle, everything is correct.

Imps — yes, imps should be different.

Ghosts — yes, the downside is the killing of ghosts.
Well, the titans, or rather, weren't monsters; there were 12 of them, 6 men and 6 women, and they mated, and this could lead to their children being underdeveloped in the future, and also in the Greek pantheon they were barbarians, embodying brute force
titans - in Greek mythology, the first generation of gods, born of the earth Gaia and the sky Uranus; their 6 brothers (Oceanus, Coeus, Crius, Hyperion, Iapetus, Cronus) and 6 sister-titanides (Tethys, Phoebe, Mnemosyne, Theia, Themis, Rhea) married among themselves and sired a new generation of gods: Prometheus, Helios, the Muses, Leto, etc. The name titans, possibly associated with solar heat or dominion, is of pre-Greek origin. The youngest of the Titans, Cronus, at the prompting of his mother Gaia, castrated Uranus with a sickle to end his endless fertility, and took the place of the supreme god among the titans; Zeus, born of Cronus and Rhea, was in turn destined to deprive his father of power and become the head of a new generation of gods — the Olympians. The Titans (except for Oceanus) emerged from Mount Othrys; the gods born of Cronus and Rhea — from Olympus (hence their name, Olympians). The battle (Titanomachy) between the titans and the Olympians lasted 10 years until the Hecatoncheires came to Zeus's aid. The defeated Titans were cast down into Tartarus, where the Hecatoncheires became their guards. Titans are
archaic gods who personified the elements of nature with all their catastrophes. Titans possess no rationality, order, or moderation; their weapon is brute force, which is why they do not listen to the advice of Prometheus and Gaia-Themis to make peace with Zeus through cunning. The primitive wildness of the titans gives way to heroism and the wise harmony of the cosmos of the Olympic period of Greek mythology; this period reflected the struggle of pre-Greek gods of the Balkan substrate with the new gods of the Greek tribes invading from the north
the thing is, that zombies
to raise one, you need to bind it to someone:
There are 4 ways of zombie-texturing:
1. Ordinary. Poison a person with fugu fish toxin, they enter a special form of lethargy, they are buried, and the sorcerer later digs them up, but such a zombie does not live long, about a month, but on the plus side, it does not decay
2. Raising the dead as a zombie and binding it to oneself, but because of this, the sorcerer spoils their own energy, though the zombie could last longer
3. Raising the dead and binding it to a surrounding object; it does not pollute the mage's energy, but it decays quickly
4. The dead person becomes a zombie on their own. Due to the peculiarities of the tectonic structure of the earth in a given area, such a zombie must be especially feared; a single touch and the person dies, and the zombie carries their soul to the grave to feed on the aura spectrum and energy of that person
Elves in the lower mythology of the Germanic peoples are spirits; concepts of elves trace back to the Germanic-Scandinavian alfar; like them, Elves are sometimes divided into light and dark. Light elves in medieval demonology are spirits of the air, of the atmosphere, beautiful little people (a few inches tall — cf. Andersen's Thumbelina) in flower caps. They can dwell in trees, which in that case must not be cut down. They love to dance in circles by moonlight; their music charms listeners, forcing even inanimate nature to dance; a musician cannot interrupt an elf's melody until the violin is broken; the activities of light elves are spinning and weaving, their threads are flying cobwebs. In a number of beliefs, Elves have their own kings, wage wars, etc. Dark elves are dwarves, underground smiths who keep treasures in the mountains. Sometimes in medieval demonology and alchemy, lower spirits of the natural elements were called elves: salamanders (spirits of fire), sylphs (spirits of air), undines (spirits of water), gnomes (spirits of earth)
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Yes, I haven't encountered any intelligent zombies yet either. But on the other hand, there's a reason they eat brains. :)
And elves, besides being a proud magical people, were also depicted as small humanoids, very small, living in the forest, (not exactly beautiful), shearing wool from animals, and making life difficult for farmers. In general, these parallels in mythology are very interesting. Take, for example, the dragon: it exists in almost every culture. Sometimes it's a huge lizard, sometimes a three-headed snake, or, like in Chinese mythology, a completely different creature. Forest Heresy is very similar; all these living trees... brr... A satyr is a goat-legged creature (partly a leshy), to whom the ability to lead people astray is attributed. Also common are half-human, half-animal creatures, or human-like animals, such as beorn, and various kinds of werewolves.
And according to Scandinavian mythology, dark elves are creatures that, according to one version, are related to dwarves (they are essentially the same), and according to another, to trolls. Nowadays, dark elves are drow, and Salvatore loves to write books about them.
Oh, by the way, regarding observations about Shrek: he is called either an ogre (a giant or a man-eater) or a troll. A troll is a dweller of swamps and rivers in Scandinavian mythology, living under a bridge (a mandatory condition), shaped like a barrel, and shorter than a human. In modern interpretations, a troll is a creature akin to a mountain and embodies its strength.
Orcs are creatures representing early concepts of evil, embodying the dark side of Pluto (Greek Hades). In the Saga of Beowulf, orcs are something like zombies (which is probably why they resemble Tolkien's orcs, he likely took inspiration from there), and their greenish skin is like corpse spots. According to other interpretations, an orc is a creature with a boar's head (as seen in Heroes of Might and Magic IV), as well as Warcraft-like freedom fighters (similar to those in Heroes of Might and Magic III). Also, orcs are elves transformed by magic (or fallen elves). In general, there are many theories, and it's hard to grasp them all at once.
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Yes, I haven't encountered any intelligent zombies yet either. But on the other hand, there's a reason they eat brains. :)
And elves, besides being a proud magical people, were also depicted as small human-like creatures, very small, living in the forest (and not beautiful), shearing wool from animals, and making life difficult for farmers. In general, these parallels in mythology are very interesting. Take, for example, the dragon: it exists in almost every culture. Sometimes it's a huge lizard, sometimes a three-headed snake, and sometimes, like in Chinese mythology, it's something else entirely. Forest heresy is very similar, all these living trees, brr... A satyr is a goat-legged creature (partly a leshy), to whom the ability to lead people astray is attributed. Also common are half-human, half-animal creatures, or human-like animals, such as beorn, and various kinds of werewolves.
And according to Scandinavian mythology, dark elves are creatures that, according to one version, are related to dwarves (they are the same), and according to another, to trolls. Now, dark elves are drow, and Salvatore loves to write books about them.
Oh, by the way, regarding Shrek - he is called either an ogre (a giant or a cannibal) or a troll. A troll is a dweller of swamps and rivers in Scandinavian mythology, living under a bridge (a mandatory condition), and is stout and shorter than a human. In modern times, a troll is a creature similar to a mountain and embodying its strength.
Orcs are creatures from early depictions of evil, embodying the dark side of Pluto (Greek Hades). In the Saga of Beowulf, orcs are something like zombies (which is probably why they resemble Tolkien's orcs, and he probably took them from there), and their greenish skin is like corpse spots. According to other interpretations, an orc is a creature with a boar's head (as in Might and Magic IV), as well as Warcraft-like freedom fighters (similar to those in Might and Magic III). Also, orcs are elves transformed by magic (or fallen elves). In general, there are many theories, and it's hard to grasp them with a clear head.
They don't need to eat brains, just like a vampire doesn't need to if he doesn't want to become a ghoul. And also, the Chinese dragon is not a "fake," but rather it's not a dragon at all; it's more like a water snake than European dragons, and its name is "lung."
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A valid opinion is that all opinions about mythological creatures are equally valid. That's what makes them mythological. Even in ancient times, there was no uniformity in the depiction of mythical creatures, and with the advent of Tolkien, everything changed drastically. Therefore, there's no point in arguing about who or what they should look like.
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By the way, Magnus, this isn't the only way to create a zombie.
Soul-sucking.
1. At night, a sorcerer approaches the door of the intended victim's house, presses his lips to the door crack, and sucks out the soul of the sleeping person, placing it in a special bottle. The person, deprived of their soul, soon dies, is buried, and at midnight after the burial, the sorcerer and his assistants dig up the grave. The victim's name is spoken, after which the dead man supposedly tries to lift his head – because the sorcerer is holding a vessel with his soul in his hand. As soon as he does this, the vessel is brought to the deceased's nose and opened for a fraction of a second, as if releasing part of the captured soul. It is believed that this restores life to the body. Completing the ritual, the sorcerer leads the revived zombie past his house and recites spells to forever deprive the victim of memories of his past life.
2. Another way to steal a soul is for the sorcerer to place a vessel with magical objects under the pillow, which will attract the soul. Finally, the sorcerer can prepare a special potion that paralyzes a person and thus deprives him of the ability to resist.
Ничего нет только у мёртвого - у живого есть хотя бы жизнь...
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By the way, Magnus, this isn't the only way to create a zombie.
Soul-sucking.
1. At night, a sorcerer approaches the door of the intended victim's house, presses his lips to the door crack, and sucks out the soul of the sleeping person, placing it in a special bottle. The person, deprived of their soul, soon dies, is buried, and at midnight after the burial, the sorcerer and his assistants dig up the grave. The victim's name is spoken, after which the dead person supposedly tries to lift his head – because the sorcerer holds a vessel with his soul in his hand. As soon as he does this, the vessel is brought to the deceased's nose and opened for a fraction of a second, as if releasing part of the captured soul. It is believed that this restores life to the body. Completing the ritual, the sorcerer leads the revived zombie past his house and recites spells to forever deprive the victim of memories of his past life.
2. Another way to steal a soul is for the sorcerer to place a vessel with magical objects under the pillow, which will attract the soul. Finally, the sorcerer can prepare a special potion that paralyzes a person and thus deprives him of the ability to resist.
1. This is well known. There is also a method of introducing a special spider; I forgot what makes it special.
2. To prevent a person from saying anything, in Haiti and other islands where Voodoo magic is feared, after death, the person's mouth is first stuffed with earth, and then a shaman sews it shut. Usually, relatives guard the grave because it is considered a great shame if the zombie returns to your home; it is usually washed away with blood. Zombies are usually short-lived, rarely surviving for 3-5 years, because in many cases, decomposition occurs. In addition, in cases where the sorcerer binds the zombie to himself
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And there's also Zombie Powder... =)
Ничего нет только у мёртвого - у живого есть хотя бы жизнь...
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And there's also Zombie Powder... =)
Yes, I was talking about it. It's made from pufferfish, or something else, and it's very psychotropic. A person enters a special state of sleep, which causes the heart to beat very slowly. In general, it's a prolonged lethargic sleep, but the person dies completely after 1.5 months because brain cells gradually die off.
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Yes, I was talking about it. It seems to be made from pufferfish, or something else, and it's very psychotropic. A person enters a special state of sleep, which causes the heart to beat very slowly. In general, it's a prolonged lethargic sleep, but the person dies completely after 1.5 months because brain cells gradually die.

Here is information about the powder.
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Copy-pasting isn't always a good idea, and stealing other people's thoughts isn't right. If anyone is interested, they can look it up themselves, and there's no need to claim someone else's words as their own. They didn't even bother to rephrase it in their own words or, at least, cite the source.
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I don't know about you, but I like the Orcs from Warcraft, and the Elves and Dwarves from Tolkien. You should read Tolkien's "The Hobbit"... especially the last battle... the Battle of the Five Armies. I used to read it at night with a flashlight under the covers, it was so interesting.
Скажи мне, о чем ты думаешь, и я скажу, чем.
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Wikipedia
Copy-pasting isn't always a good idea, and stealing other people's thoughts isn't right. If someone wants to, they can look it up themselves, and there's no need to claim someone else's words as your own. You didn't even bother to rephrase it in your own words or, at least, cite the source.
Yes, I forgot to mention it here... I should have indicated the source... And I wasn't claiming them as my own...
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