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Ley;102462
Well, if I were in their shoes, I would argue the same way. "Us? How? What are you talking about? Nothing like that!" :D
It's an eternal topic... And it has no solution... Because it's impossible to prove... But I wouldn't use the clan rating from this tournament... Nor from other tournaments, for that matter... :)
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AmberSoler;102465
This is an eternal topic... And it has no solution... Because it's impossible to prove... But I wouldn't consider the clan rating in this tournament... Nor in other tournaments, for that matter... :)

In my opinion, everything is well thought out and quite logical :) - they are doing the right thing - they are making it challenging for everyone, which means it's worth it... It's just more difficult for some... And regarding the rating, I completely agree: everyone should have their own "resume".
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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Ley;102466
In my opinion, everything is well thought out and quite logical :) - they are doing the right thing - they are making it difficult for everyone, which means it's worth it... It's just a bit more challenging for some... And regarding the ranking - I absolutely agree: everyone should have their own "resume".
As long as the tactic can be justified, it should be used... I agree with you on this... The only question is whether the ideology behind the ranking will become a victim of its own illusions... :) Otherwise, there's no problem if everyone is playing by the same rules... :)
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Come on, why are you all whining here? If you have any accusations, state them; if not, stop it!
2 Ataman, whoever wants to will find [him]! It seems you don't want to look for differences because you're in cahoots with those who are causing trouble here...
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BotINKi;102471
No, why are you all whining here? If there are any accusations, state them; if not, stop!
2 Ataman, whoever wants to will find [them]! It seems you don't want to look for the differences because you're in cahoots with those who are messing around here...
All accusations must be substantiated. There are none... :) The question doesn't even arise...
What is the purpose of your attack? It's unclear...

And no one is messing around here; we've known each other for a while, right? :D Everything said has a logical basis and should be perfectly clear to you... There'
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So, let's say, a perspective from an outside observer:
And doesn't anyone remember when the results of the OF (Online Fights) were consistent? And if I'm not mistaken, there were no questions from the public at that time...
Out of many tactics, only one leads to the best result, and if several players who have been playing with each other for a long time have similar tactics, then it is perfectly normal that they have a similar, and perhaps even identical, origin, but in any case, if even something is to be accused of, it needs to be proven, and to speak in half-hints, to stir up trouble, and without saying anything specific is wrong.
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There can be no accusations here, let alone evidence. I agree that it would have been better not to touch on this issue at all. But since it has been brought up... All discussions about the calculation mechanism initially arise in the source thread, and indirectly – usually as an addition to the main conversation, and then, at the discretion of authorized people, they are moved to the appropriate place.
And this time is no exception, unfortunately...

What tournament is OF? Even if all players show the same result, it won't raise doubts, but rather, it will confirm that there was simply no other way to play. And when only a small part of the players demonstrates a fundamentally different winning tactic, they are usually applauded...

Just don't say that people who have been playing against each other for a long time choose the same tactic only because they have been playing against each other for a long time... In this game, heroes differ from chess in that there cannot be standard game schemes... And let's not start a new topic for this conversation, right?
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AmberSoler;102473
All accusations must be substantiated. There are none... :) The question doesn't even arise...
What is the purpose of your jab? It's unclear...
How can you say you're not raising the issue at all? You're clearly hinting at something... You're discussing something, conducting some kind of unclear action... and meanwhile, it's leading to slander against my clan's reputation (which is already not impeccable in light of recent events...). The "Trio" is our everything, and at this rate, few will join us. You are working against our clan - that's what my "jab" is about.
AmberSoler;102473
And no one is messing around here, we've known each other for a while, right? :D Everything said has a logical basis by definition, and you should understand it perfectly... There's no point in arguing, don't escalate. The question is for the accountants, who are trying to create a scheme for calculating the rating... But your reaction makes me think... ;)
I don't quite understand! You want to accuse us of something... what is the question? I'm not escalating, on the contrary, you are. We've known each other for a while, right? Well, not really - I don't know much about you at all. And what is the question for the accountants? I wonder what my reaction suggests? I like to argue - you know that! Especially when it comes to me! Think as much as you want - maybe you'll feel morally satisfied!!!

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Just don't say that people who have been playing against each other for a long time choose the same tactics only because they have been playing against each other for a long time... In Heroes, this is different from chess, where there can't be standard game schemes... And let's not start a new topic for this conversation, okay?
No one is saying that. It's obvious... We have the same school, similar game schemes... And even if it's objectively the best way to play. Chess is the same - it has been studied so thoroughly by grandmasters that they know all kinds of tactics, and the question of the winner depends only on who can better handle the psychology. Not starting a new topic? You started it yourself
Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

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Guys, don't worry. All these posts will be forgotten like "FLAME" :)
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What tournament is OF? Even if all players show the same result, it won't cause doubts, but rather, it will confirm that there was simply no other way to play. And when only a small part of the players shows a fundamentally different winning tactic, they are usually applauded...
Well, if there are many newcomers here, what can you do? We are not hostages of the situation!..

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Guys, don't worry. All these posts will fade away like "FLAME" :)
exactly!! but if someone wants to argue, let them.
Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

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BotINKi;102495

Exactly!! But if a person wants to argue, they create unnecessary problems for the Administration and may get banned.
Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but if the criticism is not justified, then it is a violation of the forum rules.
С уважением, Vlad

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Already 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I want the official results.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))
P.S.: Well, this is already my 17th...)
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело.
Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:

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The save file from the respected Ataman was sent to me for verification. I confirm the integrity of the result. I congratulate all players on the successful completion of the tournament.
Мы спасемся? Я не знаю. Верьте...
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Here are the results of the Tournaments.
PARTICIPANTS LIST
PlacePLAYER NICKDAYSGOLD
1 vbn 1016890
2 BotINKi 1127900
3 lopetos 1123325
4 vuzzza 1115000
5 Ataman 1114425
6 AmberSoler 1211400
7 IronAxe 1441000
8 Kamikaze162710
9 Перполькен 1745950
10 arwil 1711175
11 Svercha 2014070
12 Ley 2826215
13 """"Rizo"""" 3039000
14 Шамиль-тьма 3215235
15 BigAke 3312750
16 ewgeniy 4137625
17 LesniK* 5031345
18 Дубровин Павел56210525
19 SandroXXL 6187086
20 Dark Mon@rch 62170650
21 Entony6954090
Congratulations to vbn on the victory! :smile49:
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Congratulations to comrade vbn on the victory!!!

Please clarify the situation with the Grails, and also make a correction to my result - the amount of gold I collected is 27900.
Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

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