Posts from Online tournament: The best hero.

In the game OJERO (Castle - Sir Muelich) - BOTINKI (Tower - Nela) defeated OJERO. To Crash and Uran: I'm ready to play with you anytime! P.S. My avatar is my ICQ icon.

Именно! "The Best" :smile48:

Guys, take OJERO as an example! He has already played all the games!

I'm fed up with the disorganization, unfairness, and the completely random chance of winning or losing... And on these maps, the Necropolis faction is practically invincible! In the beginning, you can't get through to them, and in the end, it's impossible to defeat legions of skeletons! And if you ban the use of artifacts (Angel Wings), then it should also be banned on the map! Otherwise, on the 3rd week, you try to break through to a Utopia, lose your army, and then get an artifact that you can't use! I'M FED UP WITH LOSING BECAUSE OF THESE MAPS AND THE ORGANIZERS' MISTAKES! AND MOREOVER, THEY STILL INSIST ON THEIR RIGHTNESS INSTEAD OF AT LEAST APOLOGIZING!!!!!!!!! I refuse to continue participating in this chaos!!!!

The rules state that tournaments are not held on random maps! Yes, indeed, they add even more randomness to these random maps in the form of 3(!) Dragon Utopias and impenetrable defenses between opponents, which prevents players from using rush tactics, for example... That is, it just turns into a race to develop as much as possible and see who gets the better Utopias and artifacts in that time! And what does the best hero have to do with it?... call it a tournament properly - "Oh, Lucky One!!!"

I'm fed up with the disorganization, unfairness, and the completely random chance of winning or losing... And the Necropolis faction is virtually invulnerable on these maps! In the early game, you can't break through them, and in the late game, it's impossible to defeat legions of skeletons! And if you prohibit the use of artifacts (like Angel Wings), then it should also be prohibited on the map! Otherwise, on the 3rd week, you try to break through a Utopia, lose your army, and then get an artifact that you can't use! I'M FED UP WITH LOSING BECAUSE OF THESE MAPS AND THE ORGANIZERS' MISTAKES! AND YET, THEY STILL INSIST ON THEIR RIGHTNESS INSTEAD OF AT LEAST APOLOGIZING!!!! I refuse to continue participating in this chaos!!!!

The rules state that tournaments are not held on random maps! Yes, indeed, they add even more randomness to these random maps in the form of 3(!) Dragon Utopias and impenetrable guards between opponents, which prevents players from using rush tactics, for example... That is, it just turns into a race to develop as much as possible and see who has the better Utopias and artifacts in the meantime! And what does the best hero have to do with it?... call it a tournament properly - "Oh, the lucky one"!!!

I COMPLETELY AGREE.... moreover... I warned about it right away... at the beginning of the topic... that the tournament was not well thought out... Kostya told me what situation turned out this time... and I was amused by the fact that the organizer, jois, doesn't know the rules of his own tournament... I won't give an example, although I could... further - I follow this tournament periodically... and, frankly, I am very unhappy with the CARELESS attitude towards creating maps... I won't explain why, but I think 3 Utopias for each player is not normal (because one player might have all 3 weak, and the other might have 3 strong... the outcome of such a match is predetermined). Furthermore, how can you prohibit the use of artifacts in the rules, but not on the map?... I also don't understand... in general, THINK WHAT YOU WANT... I just expressed my opinion... and I'll tell the organizers - LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES... and to future creators of online tournaments - LEARN FROM OTHERS' MISTAKES ;);)
ps I DON'T UNDERSTAND... why put guards between players... it's not interesting that way... developing to gigantic armies... RUSH is impossible...

I disagree with both of you! The guys put in their time to create a tournament for us forum users, and you...
To Crash
In our game, it could have been the other way around, and you would have won. Then you would have been sitting quietly and not saying anything. But now you've probably been eliminated from the tournament and are blaming the organizers. I also encountered bad maps in the tournament, but I didn't make a scandal about Utopia giving me this or that!
To Raper
And you are "doing great":smile21: From the very beginning of the tournament, you've only been criticizing the organizers instead of helping them!!! Have you ever created a tournament yourself?

I'm fed up! Honestly...

I declare that some of the tournament organizers are participating
in this tournament under different nicknames, and there is evidence for that.

Let's just say, there wouldn't be any complaints if the maps were completely random,
but no, they are being reworked by the organizers to benefit themselves,
adding useful buildings and artifacts to ensure victory.

It's not a tournament – it's a fabrication! :smile29:

to ALL
Everyone, calm down! Let's not waste our nerves and time on...
The situation is much worse (but simpler);) and at the moment, we are awaiting the results of the investigation into the current situation.
Soon, everything will be clear to everyone!!!:smile26:

Regarding playing under different nicknames, I can't say anything because I haven't noticed it.
As for everything else, in the first post of the tournament thread, the organizers apologized in advance for any inaccuracies or shortcomings, as it was their first time organizing a tournament, and they asked for advice and suggestions on how to do things better, but NO ONE gave any useful advice about the tournament, and they did everything as best they could!
I also had situations where I played on unfinished maps and lost, but I didn't make a big deal out of it!
Raper, I haven't heard any constructive advice from you on how to run the tournament, but you are a master at criticizing!

Lopetos and Ojero, thank you very much! Your homeland will not forget you! Only you supported us, the organizers. As for the rest, I can't say anything. It's easy for you to write to me, "Joyce, make a map," and within 30 minutes or an hour, I'll send you the save file, and you'll play. But you don't think that maybe I'm busy or already wanted to go somewhere, but no, I sit down and make a map for you. And now you're saying that you're tired of the bonuses on the map... So, try creating a tournament and see what it's like to be an organizer. Here's an interesting detail! All the complaints about the maps are made only by those who lost, and the tournament is probably already over for them, right?

To Raper
And you are quite the "hero":smile21: From the very beginning of the tournament, you've only been criticizing the organizers instead of helping them!!! Have you ever organized a tournament yourself?

Ojero, I don't care what you think about me... maybe I haven't created a tournament yet, but I've been here (on the forum) for quite some time and know how tournaments are created, I've participated in them, etc.
And in this tournament, I didn't even participate because from the very beginning I saw that it wasn't well thought out.......
Organizers - guys, you should have first looked at how online tournaments are conducted, their rules, mistakes, etc. (I was giving an example with Ani's tournament - SOY).

To Crash
In our game, everything could have been reversed, and you would have won. Then you would sit quietly and be silent.

But here I disagree with you.....because Kostya analyzes his own development and that of his opponent after every game and concludes whether he/his opponent lost/won LEGITIMATELY or if something else happened......
Further, there is something else I wanted to say about the maps....to be honest, I watched 1-2 games played by my sister... and also noticed that winning/losing depends only on Dragon Utopia........ then, since YOUR maps are based on randomness, the Necropolis faction is invulnerable on them, because when creating randomness, the computer places monsters of level 1-2 for defense practically everywhere.....
Then, another thing I don't understand is why you can play against one Castle for several games....it turns out that you play 2-3 games against the Necropolis and you are eliminated from the tournament (because they are invulnerable due to randomness)..
Also, you will say that the Necropolis can be defeated - yes, it can - with a rush attack, but since there is a guard between you, you are not given such an opportunity.......

I declare that some of the tournament organizers are participating in this tournament under other nicknames, and there is evidence.

So far, I haven't noticed this, but everything can be checked by scanning IP addresses...(VDV did this at the offline War of the Vikings tournament, so if it was possible offline, then it should definitely be possible online=)).

Raper, I haven't heard any useful advice from you regarding how to run the tournament, but you are a master at criticizing!

I think I gave some advice
here and here....in my opinion, these are very simple tips....

All complaints about the maps are made only by those who lost, and the tournament is probably already over for them???

Do you want me to tell you why?.....perhaps because the player lost only because the map was poorly designed... I won't explain, but I will return to Crash's example: he lost 2 games against the Necropolis... in both cases (as far as I know), everything was decided by Dragon Utopia... is it normal to raid a Dragon Utopia on week 3, spend resources, and get the fattest thing out of it - a banned artifact - wings that cannot be used...? And the opponent gets an orator's hat, etc....is this normal?...and imagine - with magic and 1000-3000 skeletons, what can such a hero do...? I have already said that the outcome of such a duel is predetermined......

I think I explained my point of view... if you disagree with me, don't write messages, don't clutter up the forum with insults, because I will still argue ;), or just consider all these posts as the ravings of a madman.

And what about me?

:o I forgot to mention – of course, I have Barbarians and Dessa to play against you! I hope she won't let me down! ;)

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By the way – unfortunately (sorry, Joyce and Step – you both know that I have a good opinion of you), but in the argument that arose, I will still support Crash and Rapper. The maps are not well-designed, and such randomness means a lot... I myself had something similar in one of the games – but I decided not to make a story out of it. And still, I think – if skills and artifacts are banned on the map, then it should be indicated in the map properties – and there will be no questions!!! Because it's really strange – in one of the games, I spent a lot of effort to free a hero from a well-guarded prison – and there turned out to be Kira, level 10! Fun, right? I had to dismiss her... :( I understand that it's the first tournament – and all that – but I repeatedly told the organizers everything – however, the reaction is still somehow strange... (Step and Joyce – once again, I apologize – but I still think that it would be better for you to listen to the advice and try to fix everything – instead of getting offended!!! Okay?;))

You know, I've read a lot of different arguments here, some convincing, some not so much... and it's getting to me... My position on this issue was neutral; whether it has changed is up to you to judge. Dear friends, each of you is right in some ways, and naturally wrong in others... Regarding the three utopias. It's certainly unfair if someone gets three good utopias while another gets terrible ones... here, we can only hope that we should anticipate this and develop accordingly, trying to prevent it... how we do that is up to each of us. Regarding the maps. Fellow organizers, we all understand that you have limited free time... But couldn't you have considered different game scenarios in advance??? And then, there's no point in complaining that people are messaging you on ICQ and demanding a map... You yourselves decided to run the tournament... Therefore, the time spent on the tournament is significant... You yourselves decided to use random maps... You could have easily used fixed maps and run the tournament on them... it would have taken some time, but in the end, you would have spent much less time on the maps... I'm also puzzled by situations where banned artifacts or scrolls with banned spells are found... this is a huge negative point against you. Regarding losses due to bad utopias. We all had the opportunity to familiarize ourselves with the tournament rules before the tournament. We definitely did... And yet, we participated in it, which means we fully agreed with the tournament rules!!! Therefore, complaining about certain points in the rules makes no sense... Three utopias? So be it... As they say, you don't wave your fists after a fight... but unfortunately, we are... To OJERO: That's the point!! You won, but if you had lost, would you be so sure that you didn't do the same thing?? And this isn't the first time you've been lucky with utopias... To Jois: And why should their homeland not forget them??? And as far as I know, your homelands are not exactly the same... That's a bold statement. As they say, you get what you earn. There's no need to blame others for not supporting you... And that's why many people don't create opportunities because they understand how much work it is and how much free time it takes... And all of this is written with good intentions towards you. Step_1985 and Jois... You have been accused of something serious, but you haven't responded... that's strange... Do you agree with this?? Respond, clarify the situation....

Your homeland will not forget you!

It's just an empty phrase.

And I can't say anything to the rest.

What should I say when everyone agreed to participate in the tournament, and now they have so many objections? They should have voiced them earlier, when the tournament was just starting.
And regarding whether I agree with this, I'll say right away: "NO." I know that not all the accusations are baseless, but I don't even want to read most of them!

Besides, this tournament was always intended to be a friendly one. And in friendly tournaments, the main thing is not victory, but participation!!!

damn, who's here?

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damn, who's here?