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I have a couple of interesting saves... I suggest we discuss them. The AC has them too, and from what I understand, their opinions are divided: some consider it maphack, others don't, and some perhaps don't want to or can't delve into it. To be honest, these are my own assumptions; I pestered Pasha and Scorp with questions but got nowhere. They're being secretive, and I don't really feel like torturing them... Anyway, while the AC is in limbo, maybe we can poke around?
I won't mention nicknames. Those who recognize these saves are also asked not to disclose names. And those seeing them for the first time—don't try to pry. :) I want an absolutely abstract discussion without getting personal. Please also refrain from phrases like "damn it, he's a cheater, it's obvious." Naturally, we cannot make any decisions based on this discussion.
The gist. The blue same-color stack Dimension Doors to the red secondary zone near the entrance to the treasure zone. He runs into that treasure zone, but not along the road; instead, he turns immediately and finds a sweet Dragon Utopia off-road. Since this happens in plain sight of the reds, it raises some suspicions and unpleasant feelings (the Dragon Utopia had just been discovered by them). Saves 146-211 are attached. If anyone wants to analyze the entire blue game in more detail, I'll attach the rest of the saves; I just don't have them on me.
The suspect's explanation (according to an AC member, I can't vouch for the accuracy of the quote):
"I Dimension Doored at random; with DD you never know where it's better in the dark.
I saw a cleared path and entered; it's stupid to follow the road—the opponent has clearly already gathered everything good near the road, but he might not have had time to go north yet. That's why I chose that specific direction... I got lucky that there was an untouched Dragon Utopia there..."
Once again: I don't want you to tell me definitively whether maphack occurred or not. I want to see your analysis and your opinion. My personal view is that even if maphack is present here, it is impossible to prove. But maybe someone can dig something up in favor of the prosecution or, conversely, the defense... Thanks in advance
I won't mention nicknames. Those who recognize these saves are also asked not to disclose names. And those seeing them for the first time—don't try to pry. :) I want an absolutely abstract discussion without getting personal. Please also refrain from phrases like "damn it, he's a cheater, it's obvious." Naturally, we cannot make any decisions based on this discussion.
The gist. The blue same-color stack Dimension Doors to the red secondary zone near the entrance to the treasure zone. He runs into that treasure zone, but not along the road; instead, he turns immediately and finds a sweet Dragon Utopia off-road. Since this happens in plain sight of the reds, it raises some suspicions and unpleasant feelings (the Dragon Utopia had just been discovered by them). Saves 146-211 are attached. If anyone wants to analyze the entire blue game in more detail, I'll attach the rest of the saves; I just don't have them on me.
The suspect's explanation (according to an AC member, I can't vouch for the accuracy of the quote):
"I Dimension Doored at random; with DD you never know where it's better in the dark.
I saw a cleared path and entered; it's stupid to follow the road—the opponent has clearly already gathered everything good near the road, but he might not have had time to go north yet. That's why I chose that specific direction... I got lucky that there was an untouched Dragon Utopia there..."
Once again: I don't want you to tell me definitively whether maphack occurred or not. I want to see your analysis and your opinion. My personal view is that even if maphack is present here, it is impossible to prove. But maybe someone can dig something up in favor of the prosecution or, conversely, the defense... Thanks in advance
