Challenging (interesting) final battles. — Reference materials for online players.

Lider1

16 years ago

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I suggest creating a thread where players can post their interesting final battles (save files) where the outcome of the fight is far from certain. And then play, discuss, and analyze them as interest grows. For example, here's my battle with Fairtusk, can it be won or not? (save file attached).

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FireToSky

16 years ago

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I don't know about the first final battle, but when you paid and attacked with an Inferno bonus, it's 100% winnable; you just messed up too much.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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Déjà vu in "Post-Match Analysis".

Lider1

16 years ago

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I also thought the same at first. Wouldn't it be the same topic, but with a different name?

There are arguments for it. Not so long ago, I opened TK3 and started playing it slowly. To my surprise, the initial aversion passed, and it became interesting. BUT, in TK3, there is, in my opinion, a big drawback: a strict set of spells, armies, and you get used to it, and it leads to grinding (due to the limited possibilities). And saves from real games are always different, with more diverse magic (explosions, armageddons, summoning elementals), armies, stats, etc.

Therefore, I am more interested in saves from real games. And not the artificial situations in TK3, even if they are useful.

That's why I want there to be saves from final battles here, and not descriptions or tasks like how to take a Consul on level 121 or break the Gate of Oblivion.

So, people, let's upload saves, share them, don't be shy, at least 20 of them, and I will play with those who want to.

bRitvo4kA

16 years ago

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In that final battle, I would definitely give the victory to Galtran – with the implant and the enhancement, he mows down all the remaining stacks.

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Neoandy

16 years ago

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It was high time to create such a topic, as many hours of gameplay accumulate interest, which is often decided in favor of one side in the final battle, and it is not always easy to give an advantage to one of the sides beforehand. Here is an example from my game in "Armageddon's Blade II", where the opponent, using diplomacy, joined a large number of troops, and I wasn't even offered this. Save with TE-lite, before Iona attacks Gunar. The arrangement and artifacts correspond to the real ones (i.e., do not change). Gunar clearly has almost no chance, and Iona, with all her might, attacks Gunar, who is hiding behind the castle walls. What do you think (who has the advantage) at the beginning of the first round?

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Neoandy

16 years ago

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bRitvo4kA

In that final battle, I would definitely give the victory to Galtran – with the implant and enhancement, he mows down all the remaining stacks.

Tazar summoning 105 water elementals and using mass prayer – that’s a very good support for Gosha’s implant. The implant doesn’t destroy the stack of summoned water elementals, and against Tazar’s defense and with mass prayer, only archers deal significant damage. I watched half the round – I think Tazar will at least not lose.

P.S.: After playing out the second half of the battle, I can now confidently say that Tazar is the favorite here: 48 water elementals remain after the implant is used on them after summoning – do the math...

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Neoandy

Summoning 105 water elementals with Tazar and a mass prayer is a very good support for Goshi's implosion. The implosion doesn't remove the stack of summoned water elementals, and against Tazar's defense, plus the mass prayer, only archers deal significant damage. I watched half the round – I think Tazar will at least not lose.

P.S.: After finishing the second half of the battle, I can already say that Tazar is the favorite here: 48 water elementals remain after the implosion, and then he summons more – do the math...

Tazar has 140+ mana, while Goshi has 380. So, Tazar has much less chance here. IMHO.

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Neoandy

16 years ago

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Wlk777

Tazar has 140+ mana, while Gosh has 380. So, Tazar has much less chance here. IMHO.

After 5 rounds, Gosh won't have much left...
However, I suggest that those who want to play as Galtran do so.

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Neoandy

After 5 rounds, not much will be left of Gosha...

Funny. There's a lot of meat there - 11 archers, 23 necromancer riders, etc. They won't fall in 5 rounds.

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Neoandy

However, I suggest that those who want to play as Galtran do so :)

Easy =). Write to me.

Loi

16 years ago

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However, I suggest that those who wish to play as Galtran do so.

Here's an idea... why not explore these practical searches for truth (in no way considering this as proof of anyone's right or wrong) through sessions on a platform like Twitch?
For example, everyone interested runs the battle offline, and then two people are chosen to move the pieces – one for the blue side and one for the red side – and they run through the ideas... or immediately dismiss them as noobish... If, for example, a path to victory is found for the blue side, we start looking for counterarguments against the found winning path... and so on, iteratively, until the truth is discovered... in the process, the viewers get trained))
Something like that...

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Neoandy

16 years ago

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Ready for battle and streaming right now :)

If anyone wants to join, feel free to attack.

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Galtran, led by Wlk777, attacked :)
As expected, after 3-4 rounds, summoning 105 water elementals, mass prayer + mass bless + Thazar's armor - there, a stack of storms quite effectively countered a stack of archers :D No chance for Gosha and his imps. It's not always possible to use the mana advantage - sometimes the game ends sooner ;)

So, think what you want, but my bet is on Thazar.

By the way, how did it go in the actual game?

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Neoandy

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[/U]Galtran, led by Wlk777, attacked, and after 3-4 rounds, summoning 105 water elementals, mass prayer + mass bless + Thazar's armor – there, a stack of storms quite effectively countered a stack of archons :D

Anyway, think what you want, but my bet is on Thazar.

There were definitely more rounds – summoning ice elementals + prayer + 3-4 light bolts (they were the ones that finished them off). We'll think about it – maybe something can be devised for Gosh here, IMHO.

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Kash

16 years ago

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If you happen to stream again, please do so.

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Lider1

16 years ago

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Neoandy

Ready for battle and streaming right now :)

By the way, how did it go in the actual game?

In the actual game, I messed up that final :( (started getting confused with the clone), then I brought in an army from Inferno, and then another one :D

I'm really bad at Facebook battles :(

Too bad I couldn't watch your Mikogo stream, I'm using mobile data right now...

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