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Registered: 5/2/2009 3:00 AM UTC

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7/25/2009 10:47 PM UTC #1

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I'm looking for Heroes players who play quickly (1-2 minutes per turn, but WITHOUT a timer!).

Some players take 5-10 minutes to think about each turn. In a tournament game, according to the rules, they are entitled to do so.
But in a regular game (not a tournament), it's very UNPLEASANT when a player takes 5-10 minutes to think about each turn, even if they are a strong player. Moreover, rushing a slow-thinking player is completely ineffective and not very polite.

First, I don't like waiting so long for my opponent to make their move. I usually spend 1-2 minutes per turn, at least in the first two weeks.
Second, if you play like that, it takes about five hours to finish a game, if not more (if you spend almost an hour on each week). I can't and don't want to spend the whole weekend on one game.
Third, attention decreases after the first one or two hours of the game, even if it's not immediately noticeable.

I would like to play with those who play QUICKLY and spend 1-2 minutes on a regular turn (when you don't need to think too much).
I am generally against timers because there are decisive situations and battles (1-2 per game) that you NEED to think about. But this is clearly not every turn!

P.S.
According to the Heroes version and rules, I think we can agree.
Please don't write things like "those who think quickly are weak players." Heroes is NOT chess, and I don't take it seriously (as a competition). Only as entertainment.

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Игра по сети «Герои III WOG»: как и с кем играть?
Каким должен быть новый «WoG»? («Герои Меча и Магии III»)

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Registered: 8/31/2008 12:32 PM UTC

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7/25/2009 11:26 PM UTC #2

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The question was asked in the form "How long do you think it takes?", so I answered accordingly. The rest of the time is spent arranging the units and the battles themselves. I don't know how to kill a large group/horde of zombies/gnomes with a ballista and ten centaurs/butterflies in 1 minute if these creatures are standing on the road. In such cases, I usually tell my opponent that I have a long day ahead. As for the "first week" – it is the most important, often it happens that if you thought carefully during the first week, the second week goes smoothly. I would also like to note that standard battles are played automatically and quickly, but with deviations from the standard, you have to think right in the battle. I value my opponent's time and don't linger in battle for too long.

= First, I don't like waiting so long for my opponent to make their move.

And I don't like waiting =) I think, smoke, have lunch, boil a kettle/pour a beer, etc. When I play with Volodya Hermit, I calmly do laundry, cook, and so on...

= Secondly, if you play like that, the game will take about five hours, or even more (if you spend almost an hour on each week).

5 hours is just great, it's probably a rush and without rests. Games that last 12 hours are really tiring.

= Thirdly, attention decreases after the first one or two hours of the game, although it is not noticeable at first glance.

And how much more difficult it becomes in the morning is just unreal... Especially if the game started the previous morning.

Please don't write something like "those who think quickly play poorly."

Okay, I won't. Sorry if I offended you – I didn't mean to

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7/25/2009 11:33 PM UTC #3

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When I play with Volodya Hermit, I can calmly do laundry, cook, and so on...

If you engage in other activities, you might lose!!

What are you playing, WOG, TE, SOD? What are the game settings?
Maybe we can play sometime, if you prefer a quick game,
but if it's an 8-12 hour game, that's not for me.

Игра по сети «Герои III WOG»: как и с кем играть?
Каким должен быть новый «WoG»? («Герои Меча и Магии III»)

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7/26/2009 12:04 AM UTC #4

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VO-VAN

If you get distracted by other things, you might lose!!

If the opponent takes 20 minutes per turn, it's unlikely that staring at the screen for that long will help me :)

What are you playing: WOG, TE, SoD? What are your game settings?
Maybe we can play sometime if you prefer a fast game,
but if it takes 8-12 hours per game, that's not for me.

Mostly SoD 3.2. Maybe we can play. I don't have much time, but maybe I can find some for a good cause. I usually take about 6-10 minutes per turn, which is very little. A question for you – would you take an external dwelling with green dragons on level 117? Guarded by 50-99 griffins (actually 63), and your army consists of 11 grand knights, 2 unique creatures, 25 centaurs, 3 dryads, 3 dwarves, 4 pegasus, 4 pokemon, and a ballista. =)
If yes - then we can play)
And if you want a limit of 2 minutes per turn, contact Pasha Dubrovin; he knows how to do it. How he does it, I have no idea

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7/26/2009 1:07 AM UTC #5

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Kash

Guard 50-99 griffins (63 actually), your army consists of 11 grand griffins, 2 unique creatures, 25 centaurs, 3 dryads, 3 dwarves, 4 pegasus, 4 pokemon, and a ballista.

And what hero, parameters, skills, magic, mana? I wouldn't rush in with a level 0 hero. Instead, I would save the grand griffins + dryads + whatever else I can to the maximum. The dragons will attack, we'll retaliate, bind them with the dryad, and stand in defense: elves + ballista = :smile47:.
Although, I wouldn't go to 50-99 (unless I just want to kill a weak enemy :smile24:) because the law of unintended consequences is stronger than the theory of probability :D.

Барук Казад! Казад аи-мену! => "Гномы ням-ням."- сказал дракон. :smile19: Люди пейте гномояд!:smile51:

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7/26/2009 7:39 AM UTC #6

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Kash

EO: Guard 50-99 griffins (63 actually), your army: 11 grand griffins, 2 uniques, 25 centaurs, 3 treants, 3 dwarves, 4 pegasus, 4 pokemon, and a ballista.

If it's not Jebus, I'll think hard about it too :) Poker taught me a few things, namely to avoid coinflips (50/50 situations), and attacking a horde of griffins with such an army in SOD seems like flipping a coin :o

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7/26/2009 8:20 AM UTC #7

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If it weren't for Jebus, I'd think twice about it too :) Poker did teach me something, namely to avoid coinflips (50/50 situations), and attacking the Griffon horde with such an army in SOD is like flipping a coin :o

Dima, I really didn't expect that from you. First, the Griffons are guarding a simple stash, so intuitively, there aren't 80-90 of them, but 60-70, although there is a risk that it will be an upgraded stack... Second, on day 117, Kirr is definitely not at level 0; I had level 3-6, +1 morale/luck, advanced armor, and I specialized in ranged attack on the Griffons.
I attached 3 packs of wood and kept them on defense, the horses and centaurs covered the elves, the dwarves and pegasi covered the centaurs. The elves burn, the horses add from the wait and go back, it turned out quite easily. All the elves and horses survived, as well as several centaurs. Well, it wasn't scary to take the stash itself anymore. Elves - 4 units - a pack of centaurs - 2 horses, plus a ballista. Minus centaurs plus a dragon. I think LeBron was just joking, he would have taken this stash by day 113 =)

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7/26/2009 9:07 AM UTC #8

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If it's not Jebus, I'll think long and hard about it too. Poker taught me a few things, namely to avoid coin flips (50/50 situations), and attacking the Griffin Horde with such an army in SoD is like flipping a coin :o

Here, it's more like 70/30. So, according to ICM, it's a profitable move. :D

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7/26/2009 10:05 AM UTC #9

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Why is off-topic so popular on this forum?
I was asking about turn time, not about how to win Kash's puzzle.

And 5-10 minutes for a NORMAL turn is a lot (in my opinion).

Игра по сети «Герои III WOG»: как и с кем играть?
Каким должен быть новый «WoG»? («Герои Меча и Магии III»)

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7/26/2009 11:33 AM UTC #10

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And 5-10 minutes for a NORMAL turn is a lot (in my opinion).

5-10 minutes for a real game between players of a decent level is actually very little – usually it's 10-20.
P.S. Without off-topic discussions, all topics will be dry and boring ;) especially in this case, the situation is presented to show WHY 10-20 minutes per turn are needed.

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7/26/2009 12:12 PM UTC #11

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Lately, I've been getting annoyed when an opponent takes less than 2-3 minutes for their turn =). I personally take about 7-10 minutes on average. I don't think for too long; most of the time is spent on executing chains of actions.

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Registered: 7/26/2009 9:26 AM UTC

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7/26/2009 2:50 PM UTC #13

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VO-VAN

I'm looking for Heroes players who play quickly (1-2 minutes per turn, but WITHOUT a timer!).

Some players take 5-10 minutes to think about each turn. In a tournament game, according to the rules, they are entitled to do so.
But in a regular game (not a tournament), it's very UNPLEASANT when a player takes 5-10 minutes to think about each turn, even if they are a strong player. Moreover, rushing a slow-thinking player is completely ineffective and not very polite.
First, I don't like waiting so long for my opponent to make their move. I usually spend 1-2 minutes per turn, at least in the first two weeks.
Second, if you play like that, it takes about five hours to finish a game, or even more (if you spend almost an hour on each week). I can't and don't want to spend the whole weekend on one game.
Third, attention decreases after the first one or two hours of play, even if it's not obvious.
I would like to play with those who play QUICKLY and spend 1-2 minutes on a regular turn (when you don't need to think too much).
I am generally against timers because there are sometimes crucial situations and battles (1-2 per game) that you NEED to think about. But this is clearly not every turn!

PS
According to the Heroes version and rules, I think we can agree.
Please don't write things like "those who think quickly are not good players." Heroes is NOT chess, and I don't take it seriously (as a competition). Only as entertainment.

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heroes (a) vveb.ws and Geroi-3 (a) narod.ru
I always respond to emails, but I'm rarely online on ICQ.

hi, I play quickly. I've played Heroes 4 quite a bit, and not so much in the others. I'll probably be an unworthy opponent, but in Heroes 4, I might be. However, I don't have a licensed version of Heroes, but the last expansion, and I don't know how to play it over the network.

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Even against the computer, it can take me a long time, but otherwise, I make moves quite quickly.

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Help, those who are not as noob as I am, and tell me where I can Download the latest version of Heroes 4 and how to play over the network