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I encountered a small problem while playing as Humans. Here's the situation: My city is developed to the point where I have Grey Inquisitors, and the city's defense is at its maximum. In the city, I have a hero above level 20 and an army consisting of: 41 Peasants, 120 Pikemen, 130 Archers, 10 Griffons, and 21 Inquisitors. A mage, level 15 or higher, riding an elephant, attacks me with an army of: 350 Grem, 350 Gargoyles, 240 Golems, 30 Djinns, and 45 Mages. All of his units are upgraded. Help me!!! :smile41: I really don't want to lose the city!!! Are there any tactics or strategies? I need tactics, specifically. :rolleyes:

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I forgot to mention that I have all the buildings, and he doesn't have any.
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Mention the magic and skills at least... but overall, the chances are slim.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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I don't have any particularly strong magic skills; I have Stone Skin, Dispel, and a couple of Chaos spells. He has powerful summoning magic. The problem is that he uses Anti-Spell, and I can't cast anything! As for skills, I have Logistics, Attack, and Defense, and something else, but I don't even remember what it is.
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Use Inquisitors to disrupt his counter. In general, position ranged units behind shields and, on the first turn, try to eliminate the mages before the Fire Elemental appears. Leave one slot for a single unit to counterattack, so you can clear out any Gargoyles that fly in, although it might be difficult. Overall, it's definitely possible (by the way, what version of Heroes are you playing? I assume it's not 3.0). Also, consider using skills; you might have luck or morale available, as well as attack and ranged attack skills. A Fire Elemental or a Shockwave spell can really mess things up, and shields are also annoying (this is based on older versions, as I mentioned, and doesn't seem to be 3.0).
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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I have version 1.5. He doesn't use fire spells; instead, he casts spells on his Golems first, and the Golems attack my Archers. On the second turn, the Golems block my Archers, leaving only 5-10 of them. I place Inquisitors behind the shields, but I have no luck; morale is present. I can't manage to defeat all the mages. And his hero casts Antimagic, then Haste on everyone. Once, he even cast Earthquake!(((

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He annoys me with his summoning: Resurrection + Phantom on Golems!!! It's terrible!!! In general, by the end of the battle, I have 50-60 Latniks with defense, and he has 15-20 mages without mana and charges, 200-230 Golems without charges, and about 50-60 Golems((( and then he starts using Phantom and Resurrection((((((
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Hmm, how does he block? Have you tried cornering him and surrounding him?

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At least try to push him into a corner. Use some kind of spikes to disrupt the Phantom. If you don't have Fire, use Thunder. The barricades should be placed and destroyed by a close-range shot from the Arabs; not all of them, but you can take out the remaining ones with one peasant and have the rest attack.

In general, sometimes you have to admit that there are unwinnable battles. But you can save the game, think about it later, and maybe someone will come up with a solution.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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If I manage to corner them all, he'll definitely hit them with Fireball; he has 350 Gargoyles, and by the time it reaches them, I'll have twice as few Archers because of his Gremlins.
Maybe you're right. Maybe this is indeed a dead-end battle. But I'm just not used to losing, and I'm going all the way.)))
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Scholastic;131442
If I corner everyone like that, he'll definitely hit them with Fireball; he has 350 Gargoyles, and by the time it reaches them, I'll have twice as few Archers because of his Thunderbolts.
You might be right. Maybe this is a dead-end fight. But I'm just not used to losing, and I'm going all the way.)))
Heh... get used to it... it seems the mage doesn't like losing either ;)
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Try to destroy his catapult with arrows, then eliminate his archers. And use Stone Skin on the crossbowmen, or maybe on the inquisitors. Try both options.
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Cr@zy Wolf;136491
Try to destroy his catapult with archers.
You're right... it's a shame they didn't upload the save file – it would have been interesting to take a look:cool:


- Информация... -вступление...

Твой друг назвал меня принцессой,
А ты сказал, скрывая страх:
Таких принцесс в старинных пьесах,
В конце, сжигали на кострах...
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T@mar@;151668
You're right... it's a shame they didn't upload the save file – it would have been interesting to take a look:cool:
Do you mean the save file with the catapult being destroyed...? I'm puzzled...
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Cr@zy Wolf;152139
What do you mean, a save file with a catapult being destroyed...? I'm puzzled...
No, of course not... don't worry... :D ... I'm talking about Scholastica's save file with that battle... you can try it out... if you need it, I can upload it, because you can't explain such battles just by talking... we'll see... :rolleyes:


- Информация... -вступление...

Твой друг назвал меня принцессой,
А ты сказал, скрывая страх:
Таких принцесс в старинных пьесах,
В конце, сжигали на кострах...
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No, what are you talking about, what kind of catapult? While he's attacking the catapult, his archers and incas will be bombarded by gremlins and mages. Besides, a wall isn't an obstacle for 350 gargoyles, and since the mage is focused on summoning, he might have an earthquake spell, so he won't need a catapult.
P.S. I think even with a stronger hero, with such a disadvantage in the army, there seems to be no chance.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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Scholastic;131407
When I play as Humans...
Please tell me what difficulty level you are playing on, and I will try to create a map and reproduce the battle.

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