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I suggest we close this thread, as there are no more constructive discussions here.

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Okay, if you don't want to, then so be it... enjoy...

So, what's the point of all this then – does the Creator really need to reread in this thread how, for example, the Clan Leader is a jerk according to forum users in order to delete the clan?

Well, darn it, read more carefully...
A new set of rules for clans should be released, after which Hacker, with this NEW set of rules for clans, will contact the Creator to get it approved and receive permission to delete inactive clans.

deleting a dead clan and its threads is one thing, but deleting threads from an active clan is another... moreover, a clan can be deleted by another administrator (which is not mentioned in the rules), and not only by inter-clan moderators deleting threads.

I have a question: who is working on the new clan regulations? Because things seem to be at a standstill...

Let's discuss this.
TaKo and I have thought about it, and here's what we came up with:


1) Suspend the proliferation of Clans... by prohibiting their creation by newcomers until they have been on the portal for a certain time + have accumulated a certain number of posts (question - how many and how many??)
2) The same conditions apply to all their clan members - only the requirements may be lower (the same minimum of 4 people - the rest can be accepted without this).
3) There must be a positive reputation (it doesn't matter how many points).
4) In the representative thread of the declared Clan, the following must be clearly indicated:
a) composition.
b) unique name.
c) developed ideology that fundamentally distinguishes the newly created Clan from existing ones.
5) At least 2 members of the newly created Clan must participate in a tournament/tournaments HW BEFORE or DURING its creation (I think the result is not so important - the main thing is the fact of participation).
6) The representative thread must be оформлена immediately - and according to all the rules... (and not like "creating a Clan - name "don't know" join") - you need to invite people you are interested in in advance via PM, isq, etc.

7) If the leader does not appear on the forum for "N" time (I suggest 1-2 months) - without warning, the Clan must be headed by another person. Otherwise, it will be disbanded.
8) If "N" number (I suggest 70%) of Clan members do not appear on the forum for a certain time (for example, the same 1-2 months) without giving reasons, the Clan will also be disbanded.
9) If the Clan does not participate in the portal's HW tournaments for 5 months (for example, the VK tournament - 5 months strictly), then the Clan is considered inactive and will also be disbanded.
10) To resolve inter-Clan conflicts, as well as in the event of a conflict between members of individual Clans, this conflict is brought to the attention of Lzms for consideration.
11) I also suggest that the administration participate - namely, when creating a Clan, the administration (or someone from it) should think about whether the future Clan has potential!

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Ps Please express your opinion - maybe you disagree with something! =)) or maybe you want to add something and add another point =))
Sincerely, Yura and TaKo

seems pretty good)

regarding the duration of activity, I think around 3 months is a good estimate, based on posts... maybe 200-300 posts. Although, there are different types of people. Some post frequently but don't participate in tournaments, etc. Others post less but are very active in tournaments and other events.

I think everything is correct too... But what if someone creates a clan that doesn't meet the conditions outlined in this regulation? Will the topic simply be deleted?

But what if someone creates a clan that doesn't meet the conditions outlined in this regulation?

Well, that shouldn't happen – if the regulation is adopted, clan creation will follow it precisely!!!

maybe 200-300

No, that's an exaggeration – I've been on the portal for almost 2 years, and I have 333 posts (which aren't important to me)... I suggest just recruiting about 30 people!!=)

I suggest, and I only suggest, not to immediately disband the clan if members are inactive for a long time, but rather to create a so-called activity log. In such a case of absence, send private messages to the clan members and the leader to take action. But if that doesn't help, then only disband it.

No, you're exaggerating. I've been on the portal for almost 2 years, and I have 333 posts (they're not important to me)... I suggest we just recruit about 30 people! =)

30 is too few)) at least 100 are needed. The leader should be active and present on the forum.

The "Clan Regulations" project – It looks very good, but if you look closely, some questions arise. 1. Suspend the proliferation of clans by newcomers – in my opinion, it would be more interesting for newcomers to do something rather than just sit and write incomprehensible messages, and there is no interest or incentive. 2. Should there be a positive reputation? – it is unclear how it can influence; please explain, RAPER. Otherwise, I agree with the rules. Arandor, where does all this cruelty come from?

1. Suspending the creation of Clans by newcomers is, in my opinion, not a good idea. I think it would be more interesting for newcomers to do something rather than just sit around and write incomprehensible messages. There is no interest or motivation.

Hmm, it's interesting what we did (when I was a newbie) when there were no Clans yet (and no one even thought about creating them)... We found things to do... but now - you come, you see, you create, you disappear... and let others clean up the mess...

2. Should there be a positive reputation? - It's unclear how it can affect things, please explain, RAPER.

I'll explain... you can take 2 examples - i.e., how many eagles you have under your avatar. Or, it can be an unspoken reputation you have on the forum... Let's take you as an example... 1) with your insults, you ruined your reputation. Maybe not everyone has that opinion, but still... 2) the fact that you took our charter - you not only ruined your reputation but also violated the law... but it can still be fixed!!! Therefore, at the beginning of your journey, it is not worth speaking too loudly... (I know this from experience) because how a person behaves on the forum reflects them... so that's it - I hope I explained it... I might be wrong.

3. 30 is too little)) at least 100 is needed) The leader should be active on the forum.

Well, I don't know... I didn't have 100 messages for a long time - or rather, when the portal was being created, they were often reduced... I don't argue that the leader should be active... but still, how many - 100, I think, is too much =););) 50 maybe?? You quickly got yours up =) but not everyone is like you =)

RAPER I am no longer inclined to use profanity or make inappropriate statements. It all depends on the person creating the clan, doesn't it? If they have serious intentions and promise that the clan will be active, then why not? We should believe in their words. I still don't understand how reputation can have an impact. Reputation is based on individual cases; it can change, and it all depends on the person and their mood, right?

Well, I don't know... I didn't have 100 posts for a long time - or rather, when the portal was being established, they were often reduced... I'm not arguing that a leader should be active... but still, how many - 100, I think, is too much =););) 50 maybe?? You quickly got your posts up=) but not everyone is like you =)

Maybe they used to reduce them, but now it doesn't seem to happen anymore) 100 is normal for those who plan to stay here for a long time) especially since there are many interesting topics) here's a new add-on for the fifth Heroes game) a new topic for discussion)) the main thing is that all these messages are not just spam))

Yes, I did, but mostly they were uninformative posts and spam (it was my first time on such a forum) it's good that I just wrote them, and didn't create stupid topics, etc.)))
But now they are watching more closely)) so I hope there won't be any more such "clowns")))

Hmm, let me give you an example... Mr. Maaelgrim... the founder of the Clan... when he was creating it, I warned him not to let it become a dead Clan... he was very serious... and said that wouldn't happen... well, what came of it...?
And I'll quote Hacker's post:

Maaelgrim Last activity: 06/27/2007
Let's look at the Clan's composition:
"Guardians of Illiar" - "Guardians of Illiar"
KRuGeR1991 Last activity: 08/30/2007 20:31
Dice Last activity: 06/21/2007 02:51
Bladson Last activity: 07/27/2007 18:42
iseM@N Last activity: 05/14/2007 13:31

As you can see... he was also very determined... but where is he now...? It's unclear.

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RAPER I am no longer inclined to use profanity or make inappropriate statements.

I wasn't inclined to do that back then either, but agree =));););) I don't like that either =))