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10 years ago
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Hey everyone. I don't think there's been a thread on this topic yet, so I decided to create one here. I apologize in advance to the moderators if I've done something wrong. So, as we all know, our heroes have a very smart AI, and our beloved developers put a lot of effort into it. But it seems to me that they've gone too far. For example, every time I play with a friend on one computer against ONE bot on an XL map, I immediately start noticing the bot on one of our horizons, and it's fully equipped. The last time, we threw 4 Titans, as many Nagas, and several HUNDREDS of Master Gremlins at it. And note that this happened 3 weeks after the start of the game (game weeks, of course). We also noticed its stats; they were very high, and all of them. It also had flying, Dimension Door, and so on. Oh yeah, it was cloaked for all its turns. But that's not all. When it somehow captured my castle, just a few steps away from me, I immediately retook it because it moved on to other things without properly garrisoning it. So, I was horrified to see that it had completely rebuilt my castle in just two days! Amazing! Then, my friend and I came up with the idea of starting a game as a third player against the bot by loading a multiplayer saved game. We were shocked. The bot had an abundance of resources (and my friend and I like to start on the hardest difficulty, with all the challenges. Only hardcore), and it had 8 heroes, yes, you heard that right, 8! Our poor dual-core machines couldn't handle controlling more than two characters, and the game also takes an incredibly long time, so we limit ourselves to two heroes. But the point isn't how many resources it has, or even that it's constantly cloaked. The main point of this post isn't that the bot uses EVERY opportunity, even those that are difficult to calculate and detect. What's important to us is to prevent the bot from creating so many heroes, because all its strength lies in that. Therefore, I ask our dedicated developers/moderators/hackers and other respected people to tell this clueless guy which file contains the limits on creating characters or what script is needed to limit the malicious bot. I really hope for help. Thank you. My client: Heroes III HD+, Heroes WoG 3.58f.
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10 years ago
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I didn't notice the AI behaving too unnaturally—almost everything it had could be obtained by the specified time. Much of this is well-covered in PhysMig. And if it's a custom map, the AI might have had a lot from the start (as intended by the author). But I did notice a few things—for example, flight and Dimension Door. There is a thread on the forum about this—how the AI cheats; take a look at it.
Техника в руках индейца мертва.
Справочник по НоММ-4 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-heroes-iv.html
Памятка по НоММ-3 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii.html
и HotA http://handbookhmm.ru/vyishla-obnovlennaya-pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii-hota.html
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10 years ago
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Jackhammer48

So, gentlemen, as we all know, our heroes have a very smart AI, and our beloved developers put a lot of effort into it.

But it seems to me that they clearly overdid it.
Excellent humor! :D :D "Smart AI" ))) Even though it's as dumb as a doorknob.

The fact that it builds a castle in 2 days and other nonsense only indicates that you are playing a gay, unorthodox Heroes of Might and Magic. In normal Heroes, that is, The Shadow of Death, this doesn't happen.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
10 years ago
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Great humor! "Smart AI" ))) Even though it's as dumb as a doorknob.
Perhaps I didn't choose the most suitable word. However, it manages to gather enough resources by the third week to achieve a 200% rating in difficulty for monsters of level 7 and 8. And that's not all.
The fact that it builds a Castle in 2 days and other nonsense only indicates that you are playing a gay, unorthodox WoG.
My Castle was only one-third built, and it managed to complete it in two days. Also, it built a Capitol! We can conclude that it hasn't built one in its own Castle yet, huh? Or has it? (?)
I didn't delve too deeply into the scripts because I don't want any "gay" stuff, as you put it. The only scripts enabled are: a standard set of experience gains for the AI, building twice a day, and double movement points. I know, it's not glamorous, but considering how much time my friends and I spend on average playing Heroes, and naturally, given the pace of the game on large maps, it's easy to understand in WoG.
I didn't notice the AI behaving too unnaturally - almost everything it had could have been obtained by the specified time. Much of this is well documented in the FizMig. And if it's an author's map, the AI may have had a lot of things initially (as the author intended). But I did notice something - for example, flight, DD. There is a topic on the forum about this - how the AI cheats, take a look at it.
Once, we caught the poor AI in what is known as a dead end. Well, you know how it happens. You create a random map, and you immediately have nowhere to go - no wells, no portals, no good magic to fly away from there.
So, having none of the mines except the lumber mill and quarry, it had a rather impressive army, even with azure dragons from three dwellings, which were in this dead end. Well, and the bot, of course, put up a good fight. It was upgraded and equipped with all sorts of goodies and even powerful artifacts. Where did it get them?
I only need one thing - to prevent the AI from creating a bunch of heroes.
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10 years ago
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Jackhammer48
Perhaps I didn't choose the most appropriate word. However, he manages to find a way to achieve a 200% monster difficulty rating by the third week, with monsters of level 7 and 8. And that's not all.

Well, if he's determined to cheat, there's nothing surprising about it.
Infinite gold, parameters generated out of thin air, and n buildings built in a day.
By the way, 2 buildings a day for two days is 4 buildings.
Somewhere there's a script or some text file or some other unknown thing from which all this "magic" originates.
Jackhammer48

I know, it's not glamorous.
It's not glamorous to play WOG. Play Heroes (WOG is not Heroes), and you'll be happy.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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10 years ago
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This can also happen on custom maps, when you have a town but can't build anything in it, and then a temporary event or a random event occurs, resulting in the town being upgraded to a castle with a capitol and all upgrades in just one day. Or something similar happens, affecting the hero's stats.
Техника в руках индейца мертва.
Справочник по НоММ-4 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-heroes-iv.html
Памятка по НоММ-3 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii.html
и HotA http://handbookhmm.ru/vyishla-obnovlennaya-pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii-hota.html
10 years ago
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Play as a hero
Life is good, but living well is even better.
It will be very difficult to part with many of the amazing scripts. The mod's convenience and the number of features are simply amazing. Actually, it's strange because I'm a purist myself, but not in this case; I like many things here, maybe not everything, but it makes me very happy, so I'll stick to my opinion.
Well, the facts remain and will remain facts. But I won't care at all what he does, as long as we don't allow him to create a dozen heroes.
So, what do you think, guys? Is there anything that can help?
10 years ago
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Tried to find it manually – no luck. I went through the .wog archives and dug into the original data of the game. All in vain.
By the way, if you start playing against a bot with a 200% rating, you'll notice that it starts with the following resources: 15 wood and ore, 7k gold, and 7 of each of the remaining resources. I also tried to find out where all this "magic" comes from – but nothing.
You sneaky cheat.
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10 years ago
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Jackhammer48
By the way, if you start playing against a bot in a 200% rated game, you'll notice that it starts with the following resources: 15 wood and ore, 7k gold, and 7 of each of the other resources. I also tried to find out where all this "magic" comes from, but to no avail.
You sneaky cheater.

It's strange why it's 7k gold; the computer should always play as if it's the first turn. And the starting resources only change for the human player.

Ask about your "problem" here: http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?showforum=4.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

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